SteveO 35 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 10:37 pm
So funny to see the attitudes towards British players on here
Everyone convinced Rice is overpriced at 80m-100m, but absolutely convinced Caceido is worth at least that - the one season wonder playing in a small pond, and virtually unheard of before this season
Outrage that Sancho cost 80m as an English player, but Antony at €100m barely gets a mention and looks like a poor man's Pepe. 88m for Mudryk anyone?
As I said before, there is overrated shite from every country out there. None of its your money. None of it is being paid by clubs who give the slightest thought to a sustainable business model. FFP - nobody gives a fuck
We might end up spending 100m on Rice. It might work. Might not. If it doesn't then the same bloke who spent 72m on Pepe will have had a small dent made in his 8 billion personal fortune and earn it back another way. The prices are all a total irrelevance these days
Get the players we need - who gives a fuck if it's 200m invested or 400m
Steve O the only reason nationality comes into it is because for years there is a higher premium on english players (maybe it is the homegrown rule thing ?) - I was against signing mudryk cos it was too much money for a position where there was no need, and by same token I am against signing rice cos it is far too much money for a limited player, and his nationality (and/or change of nationality
) has nothing to do with it. If it was my decision in the morning, I would try and sign kyle walker cos I think he would be a massive addition, even at his age, to this team - I have championed smith-rowe over odeargod for a long time now, so I'm not one of these that is influenced by nationality. I also have expressed concerns over caciedo cos he never really stands out to me, and in the last month of the season when he was played at right full I thought he looked uncomfortable with the ball at his feet - imo bissuma (sp
) when he was with brighton looked a much better player to me than caciedo, but he has struggled to get game time with the scum last season.
You keep dismissing the money argument as though it matters not, but I still argue that - lets work on the basis that at the start of every transfer window we have a set transfer budget plus whatever income we get from sales, then I would say that overspending on rice (or murdyk or any player), leaves less money in the kitty to address other needs, so its not like it doesnt matter or doesnt have any consequences. I've long accepted that we dont shop in the top tier of talented players and am very ok with that, but I'm not ok with spending top tier prices on 3rd level players - some will spout dogshite about spending so much on rice shows the intent and ambition of the club, where as I would think that spending so much on rice (and havertz) shows that we have people making decisions that cannot judge a player properly, and that selling clubs are taking advantage of this. By the end of last season a lot of fans were questioning jesus and zinchenko, and all season long people were critical of the portugese pussy, so I would suggest that this transfer window is huge and the two clowns in charge have to get it right, and if rice and havertz are our two main signings this summer, then next season there will be loud calls for the sacking of arteta and/or edu
Arsenal are closing in on a deal to sign Declan Rice! Deal not done yet but increasing confidence a deal will be reached. West Ham wanted £100m+ and Arsenal’s new bid will reach that, add-ons included. Reports, @ChrisWheatley.
Arsenal are closing in on a deal to sign Declan Rice! Deal not done yet but increasing confidence a deal will be reached. West Ham wanted £100m+ and Arsenal’s new bid will reach that, add-ons included. Reports, @ChrisWheatley. 
or winning the ballon d’or ) 
