Fat beerbellied arsepieces with stupid voices who will be fired up to fuck after stiffening manure A Sat Nov 4th KO 1730

[DB10GOONER]

Look the reason tonight was corrupt was because exactly the same happened in the Spurs v Liverpool match.

The referee DID NOT go and check the monitors.
WHY NOT ???

Forget everything else - this was the biggest issue tonight

I'm of the absolute opposite opinion on that Rob. The monitors being used or not is completely irrelevant because the three things (ball clearly 6 inches out of play, the offside, the foul) were all individually so fucking obvious on first seeing them at full speed without the need for replays that the goal should have never stood in the first place. VAR fucking the pooch was only adding insult to injury.

[Perryashburtongroves]

I know I'm going on tonight but another one is that they didn't send that cúnt off because it was a forearm not an elbow. Since when has that been a law? So, fine, next time we play them, we'll forearm them in the face every time and then when we get a red card, they can overule it because it's just a forearm. Absolute fucking nonsense. Absolute made up fucking shit to try to excuse their corruption or incompetence.

[Thynker]

Objective opinions...

Havertz should have seen red
Guimaraes should have seen red, if not for the initial forearm/elbow, it was at least a yellow and his 2nd half yellow was given for a lesser offence

No way the goal should have stood

[DB10GOONER]

I know I'm going on tonight but another one is that they didn't send that cúnt off because it was a forearm not an elbow. Since when has that been a law? So, fine, next time we play them, we'll forearm them in the face every time and then when we get a red card, they can overule it because it's just a forearm. Absolute fucking nonsense. Absolute made up fucking shit to try to excuse their corruption or incompetence.

Absolutely fucking bizarre. Any act of deliberately violently striking an oppo player is a straight red. This bullshit forearm garbage they have concocted is like saying it wasn't a red because player X only slapped player Y in the face rather than punching him ffs. Utter nonsense.

[Gunner Rob]

Look the reason tonight was corrupt was because exactly the same happened in the Spurs v Liverpool match.

The referee DID NOT go and check the monitors.
WHY NOT ???

Forget everything else - this was the biggest issue tonight

I'm of the absolute opposite opinion on that Rob. The monitors being used or not is completely irrelevant because the three things (ball clearly 6 inches out of play, the offside, the foul) were all individually so fucking obvious on first seeing them at full speed without the need for replays that the goal should have never stood in the first place. VAR fucking the pooch was only adding insult to injury.

Well yes I agree with what you say but why didn’t the referee go to the monitors to confirm that ?
Just watching MOTD and it looks like Newcastle will squirm their way out of things because of the issues being inconclusive.
So again if they were inconclusive why were the monitors unused by the ref?

[Thynker]

The best thing Arteta said in his post match presser was when he started rattling off other leagues that you wouldn’t see that shite in.

That’s something that’s been said on here countless times by myself and others (steveo for sure) - you watch a game in Germany, Spain or Italy and you just never the sort of mental shit that plagues this league every other week.

It’s rotten to the core and needs root and branch reform and if that isn’t possible then it needs to be removed.

Italian football is unwatchable because of the diving.

[DB10GOONER]

Objective opinions...

Havertz should have seen red
Guimaraes should have seen red, if not for the initial forearm/elbow, it was at least a yellow and his 2nd half yellow was given for a lesser offence

No way the goal should have stood

Not a chance. Sure we've all seen them given, and nearly always incorrectly, because that was not a dangerous tackle. His trailing leg barely clipped their lad's toe ffs. It looked far worse than it was because of the pace it happened at, but the slow motion actually showed how little contact there was, whereas it usually makes these type of tackles look far worse. It was not over the top, not violent or recklessly dangerous, just stupid and mistimed. A yellow was the correct punishment.

[DB10GOONER]

The best thing Arteta said in his post match presser was when he started rattling off other leagues that you wouldn’t see that shite in.

That’s something that’s been said on here countless times by myself and others (steveo for sure) - you watch a game in Germany, Spain or Italy and you just never the sort of mental shit that plagues this league every other week.

It’s rotten to the core and needs root and branch reform and if that isn’t possible then it needs to be removed.

Italian football is unwatchable because of the diving.

Absolutely 100% on the money. Utter shit to watch.

[DB10GOONER]

Look the reason tonight was corrupt was because exactly the same happened in the Spurs v Liverpool match.

The referee DID NOT go and check the monitors.
WHY NOT ???

Forget everything else - this was the biggest issue tonight

I'm of the absolute opposite opinion on that Rob. The monitors being used or not is completely irrelevant because the three things (ball clearly 6 inches out of play, the offside, the foul) were all individually so fucking obvious on first seeing them at full speed without the need for replays that the goal should have never stood in the first place. VAR fucking the pooch was only adding insult to injury.

Well yes I agree with what you say but why didn’t the referee go to the monitors to confirm that ?
Just watching MOTD and it looks like Newcastle will squirm their way out of things because of the issues being inconclusive.
So again if they were inconclusive why were the monitors unused by the ref?

Take your pick mate - corruption or incompetence.

[Thynker]

I'd also like Howard Webb to explain how this:


and this:


were acceptable images to disallow a goal for the ball being out of play but almost identical images from today were deemed 'inconclusive'? Again, they just don't even bother pretending that they aren't incompetent or corrupt.

That first photo is more suggestive of the ball being in than any angle we've seen today.

[BobbyPires7]

Objective opinions...

Havertz should have seen red
Guimaraes should have seen red, if not for the initial forearm/elbow, it was at least a yellow and his 2nd half yellow was given for a lesser offence

No way the goal should have stood

A pile of toss this post. Havertz red never. He slides in and his trailing leg drags across the floor and makes contact. Guimaraes is actually violent conduct. Not accidental. Deliberate strike to the back of the head. As bad a red as you will ever see. Not sure why you are wittering on about it being at least a yellow. Total fucking nonsense.

[Thynker]

Objective opinions...

Havertz should have seen red
Guimaraes should have seen red, if not for the initial forearm/elbow, it was at least a yellow and his 2nd half yellow was given for a lesser offence

No way the goal should have stood

Not a chance. Sure we've all seen them given, and nearly always incorrectly, because that was not a dangerous tackle. His trailing leg barely clipped their lad's toe ffs. It looked far worse than it was because of the pace it happened at, but the slow motion actually showed how little contact there was, whereas it usually makes these type of tackles look far worse. It was not over the top, not violent or recklessly dangerous, just stupid and mistimed. A yellow was the correct punishment.

We'll agree to disagree. If a barcode had done it we'd be baying for the red.

[Thynker]

Objective opinions...

Havertz should have seen red
Guimaraes should have seen red, if not for the initial forearm/elbow, it was at least a yellow and his 2nd half yellow was given for a lesser offence

No way the goal should have stood

A pile of toss this post. Havertz red never. He slides in and his trailing leg drags across the floor and makes contact. Guimaraes is actually violent conduct. Not accidental. Deliberate strike to the back of the head. As bad a red as you will ever see. Not sure why you are wittering on about it being at least a yellow. Total fucking nonsense.

A pile of toss but you agree with me on 2 out of the 3 outcomes?

[Perryashburtongroves]

I know I'm going on tonight but another one is that they didn't send that cúnt off because it was a forearm not an elbow. Since when has that been a law? So, fine, next time we play them, we'll forearm them in the face every time and then when we get a red card, they can overule it because it's just a forearm. Absolute fucking nonsense. Absolute made up fucking shit to try to excuse their corruption or incompetence.

Absolutely fucking bizarre. Any act of deliberately violently striking an oppo player is a straight red. This bullshit forearm garbage they have concocted is like saying it wasn't a red because player X only slapped player Y in the face rather than punching him ffs. Utter nonsense.

They're just making stuff up now because they know that more and more people are highlighting the fact that they are either cheating, corrupt or incompetent. They just come up with invented bollox because they know there's absolutely zero accountability.

[Thynker]

Wolves getting done by VAR there too.