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TBH for me Arteta has far too many flaws the main one being his inability to spot the true talent in our squad.
He only started playing Martinelli once injuries forced him to.
He is vastly overrated by the media.The same media who refer to Chelsea as a big club and who refuse to dwell on Citeh's financial misdemeanours.
Says it all really.
He is on the cusp of being a 90 points a season manager. He have one of the best defence in Europe, which we never used to have when Mustafi and Luiz were joking around at centr half, flanked by Bellerin and Kolasinac.
That part about Martinelli is also rubbish. Who was injured than Arteta forced to play Martinelli? As for Arteta's talent ID. How is it we have surged up the table to have ambitions of winning the title if he was bringing in rubbish players?
Who would you sack him for? Conte?
Can anyone tell me is a "cusp" like a cup or some other trophy?
Can't wait until the elite managerial genius Arteta adds some cusps to all the other trophies he has won over the last 5 years.
Could we maybe get a cusp for our world beating "out of possession" stats?
I just assumed it was something that the lezzers used whilst showering
TBH for me Arteta has far too many flaws the main one being his inability to spot the true talent in our squad.
He only started playing Martinelli once injuries forced him to.
He is vastly overrated by the media.The same media who refer to Chelsea as a big club and who refuse to dwell on Citeh's financial misdemeanours.
Says it all really.
He is on the cusp of being a 90 points a season manager. He have one of the best defence in Europe, which we never used to have when Mustafi and Luiz were joking around at centr half, flanked by Bellerin and Kolasinac.
That part about Martinelli is also rubbish. Who was injured than Arteta forced to play Martinelli? As for Arteta's talent ID. How is it we have surged up the table to have ambitions of winning the title if he was bringing in rubbish players?
Who would you sack him for? Conte?
Can anyone tell me is a "cusp" like a cup or some other trophy?
Can't wait until the elite managerial genius Arteta adds some cusps to all the other trophies he has won over the last 5 years.
Could we maybe get a cusp for our world beating "out of possession" stats?
I just assumed it was something that the lezzers used whilst showering
TBH for me Arteta has far too many flaws the main one being his inability to spot the true talent in our squad.
He only started playing Martinelli once injuries forced him to.
He is vastly overrated by the media.The same media who refer to Chelsea as a big club and who refuse to dwell on Citeh's financial misdemeanours.
Says it all really.
He is on the cusp of being a 90 points a season manager. He have one of the best defence in Europe, which we never used to have when Mustafi and Luiz were joking around at centr half, flanked by Bellerin and Kolasinac.
That part about Martinelli is also rubbish. Who was injured than Arteta forced to play Martinelli? As for Arteta's talent ID. How is it we have surged up the table to have ambitions of winning the title if he was bringing in rubbish players?
Who would you sack him for? Conte?
Can anyone tell me is a "cusp" like a cup or some other trophy?
Can't wait until the elite managerial genius Arteta adds some cusps to all the other trophies he has won over the last 5 years.
Could we maybe get a cusp for our world beating "out of possession" stats?
I just assumed it was something that the lezzers used whilst showering
I thought it was some kind of trophy for thothe players witha Lithp
TBH for me Arteta has far too many flaws the main one being his inability to spot the true talent in our squad.
He only started playing Martinelli once injuries forced him to.
He is vastly overrated by the media.The same media who refer to Chelsea as a big club and who refuse to dwell on Citeh's financial misdemeanours.
Says it all really.
He is on the cusp of being a 90 points a season manager. He have one of the best defence in Europe, which we never used to have when Mustafi and Luiz were joking around at centr half, flanked by Bellerin and Kolasinac.
That part about Martinelli is also rubbish. Who was injured than Arteta forced to play Martinelli? As for Arteta's talent ID. How is it we have surged up the table to have ambitions of winning the title if he was bringing in rubbish players?
Who would you sack him for? Conte?
Can anyone tell me is a "cusp" like a cup or some other trophy?
Can't wait until the elite managerial genius Arteta adds some cusps to all the other trophies he has won over the last 5 years.
Could we maybe get a cusp for our world beating "out of possession" stats?
I just assumed it was something that the lezzers used whilst showering
I don't think these Johnny foreigner clubs have considered our glorious "out of possession" stats! I mean, come on, our out of possession stats must be up there on the cusp of the top ten! COME ON!
This SHOULD be his 'do or die' season, to be honest. Minimum bar should be a League Cup win. It's time to deliver SOMETHING.
Absolutely. A manager at a big club has to deliver trophies. Has to. I've never liked the chav model of a new manager every year, but the other side of that coin is you cannot let a manager get comfortable and go on for years without winning something. Unless you are a small club. We've given Arteta long enough to build his team. He's done that. Now he needs to deliver a trophy with that team or move on. No trophy this year then I'll want him replaced. And before the usual morons jump in, no that does not mean I don't support him. I want him to win things. But equally I'm mature enough (and not a fanboy) to the extent where I can be pragmatic about it.
Cue US Wilson with cries of : "What?! You want Allardyce! You want Pulis! Because thats what youre all saying if you want Arteta replaced! Waaah! Waaah!".
Yeah Mad Marty Mk II, because that's the only other option.....
This SHOULD be his 'do or die' season, to be honest. Minimum bar should be a League Cup win. It's time to deliver SOMETHING.
Absolutely. A manager at a big club has to deliver trophies. Has to. I've never liked the chav model of a new manager every year, but the other side of that coin is you cannot let a manager get comfortable and go on for years without winning something. Unless you are a small club. We've given Arteta long enough to build his team. He's done that. Now he needs to deliver a trophy with that team or move on. No trophy this year then I'll want him replaced. And before the usual morons jump in, no that does not mean I don't support him. I want him to win things. But equally I'm mature enough (and not a fanboy) to the extent where I can be pragmatic about it.
Cue US Wilson with cries of : "What?! You want Allardyce! You want Pulis! Because thats what youre all saying if you want Arteta replaced! Waaah! Waaah!".
Yeah Mad Marty Mk II, because that's the only other option.....
This SHOULD be his 'do or die' season, to be honest. Minimum bar should be a League Cup win. It's time to deliver SOMETHING.
Absolutely. A manager at a big club has to deliver trophies. Has to. I've never liked the chav model of a new manager every year, but the other side of that coin is you cannot let a manager get comfortable and go on for years without winning something. Unless you are a small club. We've given Arteta long enough to build his team. He's done that. Now he needs to deliver a trophy with that team or move on. No trophy this year then I'll want him replaced. And before the usual morons jump in, no that does not mean I don't support him. I want him to win things. But equally I'm mature enough (and not a fanboy) to the extent where I can be pragmatic about it.
Cue US Wilson with cries of : "What?! You want Allardyce! You want Pulis! Because thats what youre all saying if you want Arteta replaced! Waaah! Waaah!".
Yeah Mad Marty Mk II, because that's the only other option.....
This SHOULD be his 'do or die' season, to be honest. Minimum bar should be a League Cup win. It's time to deliver SOMETHING.
Absolutely. A manager at a big club has to deliver trophies. Has to. I've never liked the chav model of a new manager every year, but the other side of that coin is you cannot let a manager get comfortable and go on for years without winning something. Unless you are a small club. We've given Arteta long enough to build his team. He's done that. Now he needs to deliver a trophy with that team or move on. No trophy this year then I'll want him replaced. And before the usual morons jump in, no that does not mean I don't support him. I want him to win things. But equally I'm mature enough (and not a fanboy) to the extent where I can be pragmatic about it.
Cue US Wilson with cries of : "What?! You want Allardyce! You want Pulis! Because thats what youre all saying if you want Arteta replaced! Waaah! Waaah!".
Yeah Mad Marty Mk II, because that's the only other option.....
Yep, agree with you both and it's time to deliver. he's been backed financially by the owners in a way that we didn't expect them to do and as far as we know, they let him get on with running the team as he sees fit. come the end of this year he'll have been at the helm for 5 years and that's a long time to get things right.
We've all been prepared to be generous with time, because we knew that when Il Duce left it would take years to clear up the chaotic mess he left behind, but next season has to see some silverware, or at least getting to a final or two. We certainly can't see total failure in the domestic cups, as has become usual and neither can we tolerate our usual damp squib CL exit. Overhauling City for the league is almost an impossibility, but another close 2nd has to be the minimum.
I will cut him no slack at all if he fails to add quality up front...as the whole world recognises we need and have needed for a few seasons...and in centre mid. If he's arrogant enough not to do that, or to buy mid range crap, then in my book he really will have to land a trophy or get the bullet.
Just seen a quiz on the .com showing every signing made by Arteta:
Pablo Mari
Cedric Soares
Willian
Gabriel Magalhaes
Alex Runarsson
Thomas Party
Martin Odegaard
Nuno Tavares
Albert Sambi Lokonga
Ben White
Aaron Ramsdale
Takehiro Tomiyasu
Auston Trusty
Marquinhos
Fabio Vieira
Matt Turner
Gabriel Jesus
Oleksandr Zinchenko
Leandro Trossard
Jakub Kiwior
Jorginho
Kai Havertz
Jurrien Timber
Declan Rice
David Raya
Lots of complete flops on that list. Arguably 10 players that you could describe as adequate or better.
Would you now trust Mikel and Edu with your war chest if you were Stan? I’m not sure I would….
Just seen a quiz on the .com showing every signing made by Arteta:
Pablo Mari
Cedric Soares
Willian
Gabriel Magalhaes
Alex Runarsson
Thomas Party
Martin Odegaard
Nuno Tavares
Albert Sambi Lokonga
Ben White
Aaron Ramsdale
Takehiro Tomiyasu
Auston Trusty
Marquinhos
Fabio Vieira
Matt Turner
Gabriel Jesus
Oleksandr Zinchenko
Leandro Trossard
Jakub Kiwior
Jorginho
Kai Havertz
Jurrien Timber
Declan Rice
David Raya
Lots of complete flops on that list. Arguably 10 players that you could describe as adequate or better.
Would you now trust Mikel and Edu with your war chest if you were Stan? I’m not sure I would….
See I said that on the transfer thread and another member clearly wasnt happy with me saying it, but honestly that list of transfer signings should be ringing alarm bells imo - what pisses me off most though, is the fact that they sign so many players and bin them without giving them a proper chance, so its like they havent actually seen them play before they signed them and then looked at them in training and decided then that they arent good enough
