Mikel Arteta, success or failure? - Merged thread.

[Retro Gunner]

As per usual you are wrong. You seem to think I am some poster called Five To?? Wrong. I’ve stumbled across this place and found an echo chamber of anger and hate. The reality is that nothing you think will happen will happen. Arteta will not be sacked. The Board are as detached from the fan base as they have been through our entire history. My assumption is that you aren’t a long term Arsenal fan if you can’t get it into your noggin that Arsenal does not do knee jerk. We appoint fairly long term managers. We get occasional short term stays like Rioch and Emery but they are few and far between. They were sacked because they lost the dressing Room (Wright) or were taking us backwards (Emery). Arteta has improved us. No debate. So he isn’t going anywhere. When we lose a game on penalties we haven’t been beaten 10 at home. We’ve missed a hatful of chances. Arteta has clearly got the Summer window wrong. But that isn’t going to undo 5 years of good work is it? We are owned by the Kroenke’s, not my Abramovich. Wise up!

As for the insults. You know you are winning the argument when that’s all the oppo is resorting to.

Mate, there you go again, you’re absolutely nuts.

I’ll challenge you to find one post where I’ve said Arteta will be sacked, just one. I’ve said he should be if we win fuck all this season, but have been very clear that he won’t be. I’ve also been very clear that I think he’s got 2-3 more years even if they’re unproductive. So once again, you don’t read what people say, but just project your nonsense and misrepresent/misquote.

Nothing that I think will happen will happen eh? Tell me what I think will happen, but it won’t be based on anything I’ve written on here, but only from your own fevered brain. As for the board being detached from the fanbase…really?? We’ll blow me, who have thought that? Thanks for the heads up.

You’ll find very few on here who think Arteta will be gone anytime soon or who think the Kroenkes are in tune with the support, but of course, you know what we all think and to hell with what we actually say.

You also seem to think that me and the majority on here are basing our opinions on the Utd game alone. We’ve seen this coming and predicted most of it. I’ve said in here more than once that he’s improved things, but he blew it over the last two summers and any good work he’s done is coming apart at the seams. He’s done, it’s over for him and the remainder of this season will be grim. Sadly, unless it’s an off the scale disaster, he’s not getting sacked and no one thinks so.

You really are an arrogant, condescending and judgemental clown. Most of the guys on here have forgotten more about the game than you’ll ever know and you dismiss their comments and reshape them to suit your bonkers narrative. Given the way that you constantly ignore what people say and quote them as saying something entirely different, I genuinely think you might need psychiatric help. For your sake, I hope it’s just moronic wumming.

That really is it from me. I can’t waste anymore time on the bollocks you come out with.

Spitalfields you say? How about we have a pint one lunchtime. I’ll pop out from my office. Be there in 5 minutes.

An interesting idea.

Let me give it some thought.

[Retro Gunner]

TWO RED MEMBERS....THERES ONLY TWO RED MEMBERS



Hope our captain isn't up all night with that pesky baby....I mean he's bound to miss a penalty and be total dog shit again if that happens

There’s me warning you the other day that he’s a wum and best ignored and then like an absolute fool I take the bait, knowing full well I shouldn’t and I get drawn in.

The conversations are surreal, full of projection, non sequiturs, misrepresentations, moving goalposts and false accusations. The bloke is irrational in the extreme and I was actually serious when I mentioned psychiatric issues. It got to the point where I couldn’t be arsed to read the thread back, but couldn’t remember what the argument was originally about and what sparked him off.

The Odegaard baby thing is classic Red Member

Could it be a return of the greatest WUM in the forums history? I'm guessing a Johan Djourou or Denilson reference might be too obvious

I’ve been invited for a beer. Have to say, I’m intrigued.

[SteveO 35]

TWO RED MEMBERS....THERES ONLY TWO RED MEMBERS



Hope our captain isn't up all night with that pesky baby....I mean he's bound to miss a penalty and be total dog shit again if that happens

There’s me warning you the other day that he’s a wum and best ignored and then like an absolute fool I take the bait, knowing full well I shouldn’t and I get drawn in.

The conversations are surreal, full of projection, non sequiturs, misrepresentations, moving goalposts and false accusations. The bloke is irrational in the extreme and I was actually serious when I mentioned psychiatric issues. It got to the point where I couldn’t be arsed to read the thread back, but couldn’t remember what the argument was originally about and what sparked him off.

The Odegaard baby thing is classic Red Member

Could it be a return of the greatest WUM in the forums history? I'm guessing a Johan Djourou or Denilson reference might be too obvious

I’ve been invited for a beer. Have to say, I’m intrigued.

I think you have to go just to see if he arrives in an Arsenal shirt with Denilson on the back and sporting a captain's armband

[EssexGooner1981]

TWO RED MEMBERS....THERES ONLY TWO RED MEMBERS



Hope our captain isn't up all night with that pesky baby....I mean he's bound to miss a penalty and be total dog shit again if that happens

There’s me warning you the other day that he’s a wum and best ignored and then like an absolute fool I take the bait, knowing full well I shouldn’t and I get drawn in.

The conversations are surreal, full of projection, non sequiturs, misrepresentations, moving goalposts and false accusations. The bloke is irrational in the extreme and I was actually serious when I mentioned psychiatric issues. It got to the point where I couldn’t be arsed to read the thread back, but couldn’t remember what the argument was originally about and what sparked him off.

The Odegaard baby thing is classic Red Member

Could it be a return of the greatest WUM in the forums history? I'm guessing a Johan Djourou or Denilson reference might be too obvious

I’ve been invited for a beer. Have to say, I’m intrigued.

I think you have to go just to see if he arrives in an Arsenal shirt with Denilson on the back and sporting a captain's armband

A tattoo of Bendtner on his neck.

[Gunner Rob]

I just checked out some of the things said by the legendary Red Member. I had forgotten how nuts he was

In 2012 he claimed that our defence at the time was up there as one of the very best in the Premier league
This was just a few months after the 8-2 defeat by Manchester United

[BFG4]

With some of these posts, he's probably Ty of AFTV fame he'll be the one in the pub dressed like he did a robbery in the Armoury

[OneBardGooner]

With some of these posts, he's probably Ty of AFTV fame he'll be the one in the pub dressed like he did a robbery in the Children's Section of the Armoury

[OneBardGooner]

TWO RED MEMBERS....THERES ONLY TWO RED MEMBERS



Hope our captain isn't up all night with that pesky baby....I mean he's bound to miss a penalty and be total dog shit again if that happens

There’s me warning you the other day that he’s a wum and best ignored and then like an absolute fool I take the bait, knowing full well I shouldn’t and I get drawn in.

The conversations are surreal, full of projection, non sequiturs, misrepresentations, moving goalposts and false accusations. The bloke is irrational in the extreme and I was actually serious when I mentioned psychiatric issues. It got to the point where I couldn’t be arsed to read the thread back, but couldn’t remember what the argument was originally about and what sparked him off.

The Odegaard baby thing is classic Red Member

Could it be a return of the greatest WUM in the forums history? I'm guessing a Johan Djourou or Denilson reference might be too obvious

I’ve been invited for a beer. Have to say, I’m intrigued.

I think you have to go just to see if he arrives in an Arsenal shirt with Denilson on the back and sporting a captain's armband

Wasn't he the one who killed all those Gay Blokes!????

Ere Retro is you Gay mate.... Makes no difference to me mate... BUT You might be walking into a Trap...make sure your drink doesn't get spiked...

Oh! And remember to tell someone where you're you're going and what time to expect you back.

[Retro Gunner]

With some of these posts, he's probably Ty of AFTV fame he'll be the one in the pub dressed like he did a robbery in the Armoury

I said on here at the time that I was in the Armoury before the Leicester game a couple of months ago and it was like hell on earth. I’d taken my niece’s young boy to the game and he wanted to buy a scarf. Fucking loud, moronic music, endless aisles of utter crap and mobbed with tourist types.

Dreadful experience. First time I’d set foot in there and hopefully the last. I’ll admit to being a bit of a dinosaur, but I longed for the small shop in Avenell Road, next to the Clock End entrance, that was all there was when I was kid. From memory, Jack Kelsey worked in there, but I might be misremembering. I’m sure A11M11 will know.

[Retro Gunner]

There’s me warning you the other day that he’s a wum and best ignored and then like an absolute fool I take the bait, knowing full well I shouldn’t and I get drawn in.

The conversations are surreal, full of projection, non sequiturs, misrepresentations, moving goalposts and false accusations. The bloke is irrational in the extreme and I was actually serious when I mentioned psychiatric issues. It got to the point where I couldn’t be arsed to read the thread back, but couldn’t remember what the argument was originally about and what sparked him off.

The Odegaard baby thing is classic Red Member

Could it be a return of the greatest WUM in the forums history? I'm guessing a Johan Djourou or Denilson reference might be too obvious

I’ve been invited for a beer. Have to say, I’m intrigued.

I think you have to go just to see if he arrives in an Arsenal shirt with Denilson on the back and sporting a captain's armband

Wasn't he the one who killed all those Gay Blokes!????

Ere Retro is you Gay mate.... Makes no difference to me mate... BUT You might be walking into a Trap...make sure your drink doesn't get spiked...

Oh! And remember to tell someone where you're you're going and what time to expect you back.

Well, no rainbow flag in my life, but regarding your last sentence, a few precautions should I accept the invite, did cross my mind.

[DB10GOONER]

With some of these posts, he's probably Ty of AFTV fame he'll be the one in the pub dressed like he did a robbery in the Armoury

I said on here at the time that I was in the Armoury before the Leicester game a couple of months ago and it was like hell on earth. I’d taken my niece’s young boy to the game and he wanted to buy a scarf. Fucking loud, moronic music, endless aisles of utter crap and mobbed with tourist types.

Dreadful experience. First time I’d set foot in there and hopefully the last. I’ll admit to being a bit of a dinosaur, but I longed for the small shop in Avenell Road, next to the Clock End entrance, that was all there was when I was kid. From memory, Jack Kelsey worked in there, but I might be misremembering. I’m sure A11M11 will know.

I loved that little CE shop. It was so difficult to get anything Arsenal branded back then and that shop was like walking into Gunners heaven for me.

[LeftfootlegendGooner]

As per usual you are wrong. You seem to think I am some poster called Five To?? Wrong. I’ve stumbled across this place and found an echo chamber of anger and hate. The reality is that nothing you think will happen will happen. Arteta will not be sacked. The Board are as detached from the fan base as they have been through our entire history. My assumption is that you aren’t a long term Arsenal fan if you can’t get it into your noggin that Arsenal does not do knee jerk. We appoint fairly long term managers. We get occasional short term stays like Rioch and Emery but they are few and far between. They were sacked because they lost the dressing Room (Wright) or were taking us backwards (Emery). Arteta has improved us. No debate. So he isn’t going anywhere. When we lose a game on penalties we haven’t been beaten 10 at home. We’ve missed a hatful of chances. Arteta has clearly got the Summer window wrong. But that isn’t going to undo 5 years of good work is it? We are owned by the Kroenke’s, not my Abramovich. Wise up!

As for the insults. You know you are winning the argument when that’s all the oppo is resorting to.

Mate, there you go again, you’re absolutely nuts.

I’ll challenge you to find one post where I’ve said Arteta will be sacked, just one. I’ve said he should be if we win fuck all this season, but have been very clear that he won’t be. I’ve also been very clear that I think he’s got 2-3 more years even if they’re unproductive. So once again, you don’t read what people say, but just project your nonsense and misrepresent/misquote.

Nothing that I think will happen will happen eh? Tell me what I think will happen, but it won’t be based on anything I’ve written on here, but only from your own fevered brain. As for the board being detached from the fanbase…really?? We’ll blow me, who have thought that? Thanks for the heads up.

You’ll find very few on here who think Arteta will be gone anytime soon or who think the Kroenkes are in tune with the support, but of course, you know what we all think and to hell with what we actually say.

You also seem to think that me and the majority on here are basing our opinions on the Utd game alone. We’ve seen this coming and predicted most of it. I’ve said in here more than once that he’s improved things, but he blew it over the last two summers and any good work he’s done is coming apart at the seams. He’s done, it’s over for him and the remainder of this season will be grim. Sadly, unless it’s an off the scale disaster, he’s not getting sacked and no one thinks so.

You really are an arrogant, condescending and judgemental clown. Most of the guys on here have forgotten more about the game than you’ll ever know and you dismiss their comments and reshape them to suit your bonkers narrative. Given the way that you constantly ignore what people say and quote them as saying something entirely different, I genuinely think you might need psychiatric help. For your sake, I hope it’s just moronic wumming.

That really is it from me. I can’t waste anymore time on the bollocks you come out with.

Spitalfields you say? How about we have a pint one lunchtime. I’ll pop out from my office. Be there in 5 minutes.

Fight fight fight fight fight

A few things crossed my mind here,

How will you two recognise each other

Does Retro wear a red rose ?

Does Limerick walk in the pub sipping his fruit shoot through his Arsenal water bottle ?

Is this like meeting someone on the sports field in school lunchtime for a tear up ?

Or meeting them round the back of the bike sheds for a kiss and light fingering?

Could this lead to the first marriage from two members on this forum ?

Are we all going to be invited to the wedding ?

If so what to wear

If it was a john terry type ceremony do we all wear a full Arsenal kit under our suits

I'm excited to hear how this all unfolds

I mean the meeting place Spitalfields does sound like somewhere out of a Brokeback Mountain type novel

Good luck guys, we're all rooting for you

[OneBardGooner]

Lefty Does It Again!

[DB10GOONER]

As per usual you are wrong. You seem to think I am some poster called Five To?? Wrong. I’ve stumbled across this place and found an echo chamber of anger and hate. The reality is that nothing you think will happen will happen. Arteta will not be sacked. The Board are as detached from the fan base as they have been through our entire history. My assumption is that you aren’t a long term Arsenal fan if you can’t get it into your noggin that Arsenal does not do knee jerk. We appoint fairly long term managers. We get occasional short term stays like Rioch and Emery but they are few and far between. They were sacked because they lost the dressing Room (Wright) or were taking us backwards (Emery). Arteta has improved us. No debate. So he isn’t going anywhere. When we lose a game on penalties we haven’t been beaten 10 at home. We’ve missed a hatful of chances. Arteta has clearly got the Summer window wrong. But that isn’t going to undo 5 years of good work is it? We are owned by the Kroenke’s, not my Abramovich. Wise up!

As for the insults. You know you are winning the argument when that’s all the oppo is resorting to.

Mate, there you go again, you’re absolutely nuts.

I’ll challenge you to find one post where I’ve said Arteta will be sacked, just one. I’ve said he should be if we win fuck all this season, but have been very clear that he won’t be. I’ve also been very clear that I think he’s got 2-3 more years even if they’re unproductive. So once again, you don’t read what people say, but just project your nonsense and misrepresent/misquote.

Nothing that I think will happen will happen eh? Tell me what I think will happen, but it won’t be based on anything I’ve written on here, but only from your own fevered brain. As for the board being detached from the fanbase…really?? We’ll blow me, who have thought that? Thanks for the heads up.

You’ll find very few on here who think Arteta will be gone anytime soon or who think the Kroenkes are in tune with the support, but of course, you know what we all think and to hell with what we actually say.

You also seem to think that me and the majority on here are basing our opinions on the Utd game alone. We’ve seen this coming and predicted most of it. I’ve said in here more than once that he’s improved things, but he blew it over the last two summers and any good work he’s done is coming apart at the seams. He’s done, it’s over for him and the remainder of this season will be grim. Sadly, unless it’s an off the scale disaster, he’s not getting sacked and no one thinks so.

You really are an arrogant, condescending and judgemental clown. Most of the guys on here have forgotten more about the game than you’ll ever know and you dismiss their comments and reshape them to suit your bonkers narrative. Given the way that you constantly ignore what people say and quote them as saying something entirely different, I genuinely think you might need psychiatric help. For your sake, I hope it’s just moronic wumming.

That really is it from me. I can’t waste anymore time on the bollocks you come out with.

Spitalfields you say? How about we have a pint one lunchtime. I’ll pop out from my office. Be there in 5 minutes.

I'm only going to say this once ok? You are actually in breach of our rules around WUMing and trolling. As Retro rightly pointed out your posts are full of projection, non sequiturs, misrepresentations, moving goalposts and false accusations, and posting to provoke a negative reaction.

This type of WUM posting makes every discussion an argument and ruins the content of the threads. It also ruins the enjoyment of the forum by long standing regulars who are already complaining about your conduct.

I'm asking you to please moderate your behaviour on this forum. If you continue to WUM, I'll have no option but to ban you.

Now before you come out with the usual old pony of "you want to ban me because I speak my mind, and I don't fit in with all the negativity and the (yaaaawn) agenda etc", let me say no that is not it. Banning a member on here is ALWAYS a last resort and only after they have ignored warnings.

I don't want to ban you. I like that you have a different perspective on Arteta. From time to time you do post some valid points and it would be boring if we all thought the same and posted the same. Alternative opinions are ALWAYS welcome on here, but only if the poster is respectful and is not WUMing by posting obvious nonsense to provoke a reaction.

So please, can you have a think about what you are posting and try not to post things that are obvious WUM type content? Thanks in advance!

[DB10GOONER]

As per usual you are wrong. You seem to think I am some poster called Five To?? Wrong. I’ve stumbled across this place and found an echo chamber of anger and hate. The reality is that nothing you think will happen will happen. Arteta will not be sacked. The Board are as detached from the fan base as they have been through our entire history. My assumption is that you aren’t a long term Arsenal fan if you can’t get it into your noggin that Arsenal does not do knee jerk. We appoint fairly long term managers. We get occasional short term stays like Rioch and Emery but they are few and far between. They were sacked because they lost the dressing Room (Wright) or were taking us backwards (Emery). Arteta has improved us. No debate. So he isn’t going anywhere. When we lose a game on penalties we haven’t been beaten 10 at home. We’ve missed a hatful of chances. Arteta has clearly got the Summer window wrong. But that isn’t going to undo 5 years of good work is it? We are owned by the Kroenke’s, not my Abramovich. Wise up!

As for the insults. You know you are winning the argument when that’s all the oppo is resorting to.

Mate, there you go again, you’re absolutely nuts.

I’ll challenge you to find one post where I’ve said Arteta will be sacked, just one. I’ve said he should be if we win fuck all this season, but have been very clear that he won’t be. I’ve also been very clear that I think he’s got 2-3 more years even if they’re unproductive. So once again, you don’t read what people say, but just project your nonsense and misrepresent/misquote.

Nothing that I think will happen will happen eh? Tell me what I think will happen, but it won’t be based on anything I’ve written on here, but only from your own fevered brain. As for the board being detached from the fanbase…really?? We’ll blow me, who have thought that? Thanks for the heads up.

You’ll find very few on here who think Arteta will be gone anytime soon or who think the Kroenkes are in tune with the support, but of course, you know what we all think and to hell with what we actually say.

You also seem to think that me and the majority on here are basing our opinions on the Utd game alone. We’ve seen this coming and predicted most of it. I’ve said in here more than once that he’s improved things, but he blew it over the last two summers and any good work he’s done is coming apart at the seams. He’s done, it’s over for him and the remainder of this season will be grim. Sadly, unless it’s an off the scale disaster, he’s not getting sacked and no one thinks so.

You really are an arrogant, condescending and judgemental clown. Most of the guys on here have forgotten more about the game than you’ll ever know and you dismiss their comments and reshape them to suit your bonkers narrative. Given the way that you constantly ignore what people say and quote them as saying something entirely different, I genuinely think you might need psychiatric help. For your sake, I hope it’s just moronic wumming.

That really is it from me. I can’t waste anymore time on the bollocks you come out with.

Spitalfields you say? How about we have a pint one lunchtime. I’ll pop out from my office. Be there in 5 minutes.

Fight fight fight fight fight

A few things crossed my mind here,

How will you two recognise each other

Does Retro wear a red rose ?

Does Limerick walk in the pub sipping his fruit shoot through his Arsenal water bottle ?

Is this like meeting someone on the sports field in school lunchtime for a tear up ?

Or meeting them round the back of the bike sheds for a kiss and light fingering?

Could this lead to the first marriage from two members on this forum ?

Are we all going to be invited to the wedding ?

If so what to wear

If it was a john terry type ceremony do we all wear a full Arsenal kit under our suits

I'm excited to hear how this all unfolds

I mean the meeting place Spitalfields does sound like somewhere out of a Brokeback Mountain type novel

Good luck guys, we're all rooting for you

Superb Lefty. Superb.