VAR

[OneBardGooner]

To the best of my knowledge the PGMOL are the only footballing body whose Match Officials are inter-changeable with those running VAR...


Keith Hackett has now said; after Saturday's criminal sending off of Lewis-Skelly that "Webb needs to have two separate teams / departments: Those operating VAR and those Officiating Matches"

He went on to say that Michael Oliver and Darren England should Never work as part of that Game Day Team again.

[rodders999]

They can’t even own it and admit they fucked up (at best). They’ve to double down and say they got the decision right and 99% of the rest of the world don’t know what they’re talking about. Do they know how incompetent and moronic that makes them look? Most likely they do but they just don’t give a fuck because there’s zero scrutiny, zero checks and balances and they operate like a cabal with total impunity.

What an absolute fucking shit show. A multi million pound industry being dragged through the shitter by a bunch of fucking idiots. The premier league need to act and dismantle the whole thing and get top refs in from around the world to implement the rules fairly.

[DB10GOONER]

I'm genuinely shocked.

Recorded ref watch and watched it over lunch. The two scouse tarts AND Gallagher all agreed it was deffo not a red card offence.

This shows just how bad a decision it was because those three cùnts NEVER disagree with any bad decision when it has fucked us.

Gallagher said an odd thing though. He said Oliver thought Skelly raked his studs down the oppo player's achilles. Where Gallagher heard this he did not say. So what's the communication between the cùnt Oliver and the brainless prick VAR Darren England? That will be interesting to hear......

[Perryashburtongroves]

To the best of my knowledge the PGMOL are the only footballing body whose Match Officials are inter-changeable with those running VAR...


Keith Hackett has now said; after Saturday's criminal sending off of Lewis-Skelly that "Webb needs to have two separate teams / departments: Those operating VAR and those Officiating Matches"

He went on to say that Michael Oliver and Darren England should Never work as part of that Game Day Team again.

Keith Hackett has been speaking publicly for years about the atrocious refereeing standards in England. He's honest and accurate and says exactly what should be said about these incompetent, arrogant, cheating, over-paid, sociopathic, narcissistic, corrupt, cowardly cünts.
The fixing is being carried out in teams and has been since VAR started. You can't have a ref in on the fix and a VAR twat not in because he may well reverse a decision. They need both in on the fix and now they're being paired up accordingly. If that's not true and the fixing/corruption isn't true then I'd happily challenge the Premier League to prove me wrong. It wouldn't take too long to find evidence of betting patterns or betting spikes linked to certain referees and their decisions. In all my years of watching football, I've never seen a single issue reach such agreement amongst the whole country, regardless of team followed, than the current conviction that the Premier League is corrupt and matches are fixed. This isn't going away.

[BFG4]

The PGMOL are truly up shit creek without a paddle. They knew coming out yesterday and admitting Oliver fucked up wasn't an option because there was no legitimate explanation could be provided to what Oliver(or Darren England) seen. Instead they come out with bullshit reasoning and throw on top of it that poor Oliver was abused online

Also, as someone who scrolls through twitter and can't seem to avoid the opinions of mega cùnts Neville and Carragher who are desperate to offer their nonsense musings on everything football, yet both are oddly quiet on this, I wonder why

[Perryashburtongroves]

I'm genuinely shocked.

Recorded ref watch and watched it over lunch. The two scouse tarts AND Gallagher all agreed it was deffo not a red card offence.

This shows just how bad a decision it was because those three cùnts NEVER disagree with any bad decision when it has fucked us.

Gallagher said an odd thing though. He said Oliver thought Skelly raked his studs down the oppo player's achilles. Where Gallagher heard this he did not say. So what's the communication between the cùnt Oliver and the brainless prick VAR Darren England? That will be interesting to hear......

Just watched it on YouTube. That whole segment had the air of a group of people forced to discuss something when they know they can't mention the word 'fixing' or 'corruption'. They know something is going in and its getting harder and harder to hide the evidence each week. It's like when I've seen cricket presenters talking about an incident when they know fixing has taken place. There's a resigned, desperate air to it all. They know they can't, for legal reasons, ever mention certain words but their general tone is one of resignation and depression. To give him his dues, Rob Wotton, is pointing out that there is no contact with the ankle, that it matches the description of a yellow in the laws of the game and that they had the option to check on the monitor. Even Gallagher can only mumble something about an optical illusion to try to explain it because nobody can defend that decision. There is no logical answer for why it's a red other than cheating or match-fixing.
And that's before we even mention the speed of the decision. Referees have been told to assess and make a decision in good time. They are told to take a moment and then issue a red, no matter how obvious because it shows that they have considered it and then made a decision. That's in their training. Same as cricket umpires. No matter how clear ab LBW decision, take a moment then give it. This removes any allegation or accusation of bias. That cheating little cûnt Oliver, just like Trossard's red at Cheaty couldn't wait to whip it out. Instantaneous. Like he was waiting for any reason to do it and leading me to believe he was either acting on personal bias or under pressure from outside sources to send an Arsenal player off. I can not get away from the conclusion that he's a cheat and a match-fixer and that corruption and fixing is rife within Premier League refereeing circles.

[rodders999]

Ratchet the pressure up on the c.unts. PGMOL come out of this looking totally inept.

https://x.com/restisfootball/status/188 ... cNVBoGD_Fw

[Retro Gunner]

Every time these travesties happen, I say that we should compile a video, including examples of other teams committing the same offences but getting different decisions and publicly ask for a meeting with the FA, the PL and the PGMOL to discuss the video.

Now would be an excellent time, because for once, the weight of football opinion is in our favour. This incident is indefensible from the ref's point of view and we should strike hard now, while the odds on this one are in our favour. If we were fined and/or charged with disrepute, it would make the victimisation seem even worse.

We have them on the ropes here, but the club, for fucking once, needs to bare its teeth and make demands. We should certainly be demanding that the red be over-turned and that neither Oliver nor Darren England officiates any of our future games. Some on here are worried that we'll be targeted even more if we have a scream up, but I'd argue that this incident is so high profile, that if we make a loud fuss, it will make officials more reluctant to take the piss in future for fear of the spotlight falling on them. Either way, we're already being fucked, so what's to lose in making a loud official noise?

[Perryashburtongroves]

Every time these travesties happen, I say that we should compile a video, including examples of other teams committing the same offences but getting different decisions and publicly ask for a meeting with the FA, the PL and the PGMOL to discuss the video.

Now would be an excellent time, because for once, the weight of football opinion is in our favour. This incident is indefensible from the ref's point of view and we should strike hard now, while the odds on this one are in our favour. If we were fined and/or charged with disrepute, it would make the victimisation seem even worse.

We have them on the ropes here, but the club, for fucking once, needs to bare its teeth and make demands. We should certainly be demanding that the red be over-turned and that neither Oliver nor Darren England officiates any of our future games. Some on here are worried that we'll be targeted even more if we have a scream up, but I'd argue that this incident is so high profile, that if we make a loud fuss, it will make officials more reluctant to take the piss in future for fear of the spotlight falling on them. Either way, we're already being fucked, so what's to lose in making a loud official noise?

Red nose made a fuss after Ellerary sent off Irwin and refused to have him referee their games for years. The FA and Premier League allowed that to happen. It's about time we stood up and said that we don't trust Michael Oliver's integrity and his ability to referee our games fairly. We should be saying that he obviously has an issue with us and that this is affecting his ability to referee matches appropriately.

We should then use video evidence from him booking and sending off our players and not doing the same for other teams; most notably him refusing to send off that cheaty player last season. That in itself is basically the smoking gun. There are no excuses for that, other than match fixing.

We should be asking why his decisions against our players are so quick, why he seems intent on issuing cards and why that's not the same for other teams. There must be video evidence of the speed with which he issues bookings and sendings off against us when compared to other teams. There should be someone in our club right now tasked with drawing up a dossier of evidence to prove Oliver is a cheat.

We should be telling the Premier League that we're taking a stand and want to kick match-fixers out of football.

[Retro Gunner]

Every time these travesties happen, I say that we should compile a video, including examples of other teams committing the same offences but getting different decisions and publicly ask for a meeting with the FA, the PL and the PGMOL to discuss the video.

Now would be an excellent time, because for once, the weight of football opinion is in our favour. This incident is indefensible from the ref's point of view and we should strike hard now, while the odds on this one are in our favour. If we were fined and/or charged with disrepute, it would make the victimisation seem even worse.

We have them on the ropes here, but the club, for fucking once, needs to bare its teeth and make demands. We should certainly be demanding that the red be over-turned and that neither Oliver nor Darren England officiates any of our future games. Some on here are worried that we'll be targeted even more if we have a scream up, but I'd argue that this incident is so high profile, that if we make a loud fuss, it will make officials more reluctant to take the piss in future for fear of the spotlight falling on them. Either way, we're already being fucked, so what's to lose in making a loud official noise?

Red nose made a fuss after Ellerary sent off Irwin and refused to have him referee their games for years. The FA and Premier League allowed that to happen. It's about time we stood up and said that we don't trust Michael Oliver's integrity and his ability to referee our games fairly. We should be saying that he obviously has an issue with us and that this is affecting his ability to referee matches appropriately.

We should then use video evidence from him booking and sending off our players and not doing the same for other teams; most notably him refusing to send off that cheaty player last season. That in itself is basically the smoking gun. There are no excuses for that, other than match fixing.

We should be asking why his decisions against our players are so quick, why he seems intent on issuing cards and why that's not the same for other teams. There must be video evidence of the speed with which he issues bookings and sendings off against us when compared to other teams. There should be someone in our club right now tasked with drawing up a dossier of evidence to prove Oliver is a cheat.

We should be telling the Premier League that we're taking a stand and want to kick match-fixers out of football.

Exactly what I've been saying Perry. Get a video compiled and get a meeting where they are all involved and ask for explanations. Put them on the spot, because there are no plausible explanations, well none that don't include bias, incompetence, or corruption.

We can't mention match fixing at this stage, because that would see the entire football community close ranks against us. We have to make use of the rare support we're getting from many quarters and put the authorities under the cosh for coherent answers. Once a light has been shone upon the travesties, without rational explanations being given, then the media ought to be prepared to take the next step in digging to find out if something corrupt is going on. I'm sure we have contacts amongst the journos to be able to provoke some investigative work, without being overtly involved ourselves.

[Perryashburtongroves]

Every time these travesties happen, I say that we should compile a video, including examples of other teams committing the same offences but getting different decisions and publicly ask for a meeting with the FA, the PL and the PGMOL to discuss the video.

Now would be an excellent time, because for once, the weight of football opinion is in our favour. This incident is indefensible from the ref's point of view and we should strike hard now, while the odds on this one are in our favour. If we were fined and/or charged with disrepute, it would make the victimisation seem even worse.

We have them on the ropes here, but the club, for fucking once, needs to bare its teeth and make demands. We should certainly be demanding that the red be over-turned and that neither Oliver nor Darren England officiates any of our future games. Some on here are worried that we'll be targeted even more if we have a scream up, but I'd argue that this incident is so high profile, that if we make a loud fuss, it will make officials more reluctant to take the piss in future for fear of the spotlight falling on them. Either way, we're already being fucked, so what's to lose in making a loud official noise?

Red nose made a fuss after Ellerary sent off Irwin and refused to have him referee their games for years. The FA and Premier League allowed that to happen. It's about time we stood up and said that we don't trust Michael Oliver's integrity and his ability to referee our games fairly. We should be saying that he obviously has an issue with us and that this is affecting his ability to referee matches appropriately.

We should then use video evidence from him booking and sending off our players and not doing the same for other teams; most notably him refusing to send off that cheaty player last season. That in itself is basically the smoking gun. There are no excuses for that, other than match fixing.

We should be asking why his decisions against our players are so quick, why he seems intent on issuing cards and why that's not the same for other teams. There must be video evidence of the speed with which he issues bookings and sendings off against us when compared to other teams. There should be someone in our club right now tasked with drawing up a dossier of evidence to prove Oliver is a cheat.

We should be telling the Premier League that we're taking a stand and want to kick match-fixers out of football.

Exactly what I've been saying Perry. Get a video compiled and get a meeting where they are all involved and ask for explanations. Put them on the spot, because there are no plausible explanations, well none that don't include bias, incompetence, or corruption.

We can't mention match fixing at this stage, because that would see the entire football community close ranks against us. We have to make use of the rare support we're getting from many quarters and put the authorities under the cosh for coherent answers. Once a light has been shone upon the travesties, without rational explanations being given, then the media ought to be prepared to take the next step in digging to find out if something corrupt is going on. I'm sure we have contacts amongst the journos to be able to provoke some investigative work, without being overtly involved ourselves.

Absolutely. If we aren't doing this then we aren't doing all we can. We should be fucking fighting back at them and for once, the whole footballing community in not just England but actually, the entire world is behind us. This does seem like the one where people have suddenly gone, "Yeah, I can see what they're saying now and it looks dodgy." We've also got to the stage where supporters of any club in any league are fed up of shit referees making shit, decisions or out and out cheating and nothing ever happening. We're tired of this "Think about the referees" line. They're well-paid professionals and if they don't like the abuse or scrutiny then fuck off and find another job or drop down the leagues and do it as an amateur. Teachers, doctors, prison officers, police, ambulance drivers, firemen, taxi drivers, postmen fucking every fucking profession out there has abuse and has to just get on with it for a fraction of the salary and 100% more accountabilit.

Fucking grow up, you prissy little entitled cûnts. You're not special, you're a fucking football referee that's all. Do your job honestly and properly, don't cheat and then whinge when you get caught. Do it honestly or fucking fuck off.

[rodders999]

Yellow card

https://x.com/arsenalbabe_/status/18836 ... cNVBoGD_Fw

[OneBardGooner]

Try not to blow your stack when you watch this Utter Bollocks:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5USEL5vJqY

[rodders999]

Try not to blow your stack when you watch this Utter Bollocks:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5USEL5vJqY

An optical illusion

Did the c.unt who saw 10 different replays of it from all angles also see an optical illusion? Oh do fuck off.

[Nick Nack]

To the best of my knowledge the PGMOL are the only footballing body whose Match Officials are inter-changeable with those running VAR...


Keith Hackett has now said; after Saturday's criminal sending off of Lewis-Skelly that "Webb needs to have two separate teams / departments: Those operating VAR and those Officiating Matches"

He went on to say that Michael Oliver and Darren England should Never work as part of that Game Day Team again.

Keith Hackett has been speaking publicly for years about the atrocious refereeing standards in England. He's honest and accurate and says exactly what should be said about these incompetent, arrogant, cheating, over-paid, sociopathic, narcissistic, corrupt, cowardly cünts.
The fixing is being carried out in teams and has been since VAR started. You can't have a ref in on the fix and a VAR twat not in because he may well reverse a decision. They need both in on the fix and now they're being paired up accordingly. If that's not true and the fixing/corruption isn't true then I'd happily challenge the Premier League to prove me wrong. It wouldn't take too long to find evidence of betting patterns or betting spikes linked to certain referees and their decisions. In all my years of watching football, I've never seen a single issue reach such agreement amongst the whole country, regardless of team followed, than the current conviction that the Premier League is corrupt and matches are fixed. This isn't going away.

I tell you what else would be interesting to know, what the stats are for cards,penalties etc given or not given with certain teams. We've seen the stats for the c.unt Oliver with us and Cheaty over the last few days. And we all know about the penalties never given at Old Trafford. Does it always happen with certain referees or officiating teams?

I'd like to see stats for ref/VAR teams, especially those in the Rolex club and the decisions given or not given for certain clubs linked to the countries that like to hand out free expensive gifts. In my line of work I get a lot of bribery, fraud and corruption training and accepting gifts like Rolexes on top of being paid means that even if there is no corruption there would still be unconscious bias. It's a big no, no. Oliver is from the north east and guess what the Geordies are owned by Saudi PIF, where the refs went to help out, whilst trousering gifts.

They should also investigate whether there are patterns of abnormal decisions being made when a particular ref and VAR official are on the same game. High numbers of yellow cards; always a red card (either team); penalty given in these games. Just abnormal patterns which would indicate betting syndicates.

I actually think that some of the refs are just shit and incompetent, some just dislike us and therefore give us the shitty end of the stick, and some are corrupt.