http://www.onlinegooner.com/exclusive/index.php?id=733
usual thread starter… okay a bit of a departure this one. I’m going to give you an idea what goes into this gig of being the editor for the onlinegooner website. I’ve made an effort at making the original transcript of this exclusive a bit easier to read. But I do get offerings of varying quality, some of which require just basic formatting, some of which require a little more work. Not saying the below is better or worse than what’s on the site, but here is the piece in its original form. Make your own minds up…
I must admit that im absolutely fuming that the boss didnt sign anybody yesterday, when there were reasonably priced targets available & all our rivals strengthend & when a player like Robinho signs for Man City - bearing in mind thevye just hit the jackpot then im afraid that we will be left behind, & I wont accept that & im sure my fellow gooners wont either. So between now & january weve got to be careful that we dont get anymore injuries full stop, especially as we play the likes of liverpool, Chelsea & Utd before then which i think we must win those games if we are to stand any chance of the title. Also we cannot afford to lose anymore points unles any of the other 3 drop points which apart from Chelsea V Spurs I cant really see happening too often especially as utd & chelsea have done so often the last few years. Even the scousers are playing badly at the mo but they are still winning & havent lost a game. Last year he bought Diarra, who i think was excellent till he got impatient - but he knew the score when he joined, but Wenger sold him instead of loaning him out, & in turn it turned out to be one of the reasons we were left short. I know hes brought in Mikael Silvestre, whos too injury prone for me, & thank god Nasri is instantly repaying his transfer fee but you cannot rely on Denilson & Diaby, Ramsey Eboue & young Wilshire at least till january & its more or less impossible to turn in perforamces like our last 2 games against Twente & Newcastle week in week out. A prime example is when we go to Istanbul to play Fenerbahce in the CL if , god forbid, Fabregas is missing or Toure or Gallas & for example were struggling, who is gonna lift the team when we need it the most? In my previous blogs ive mentioned the players we shouldve gone in for & in one of the more recent articles ive seen who we were linked with & who we actually got I was amazed about who we let slip away. The boss/the board keeps talking the the talk "If i go to the board & ask for £30mill for a player, then I can do it", but they needs to start backing that up. Yet again we look mediocre next to our rivals & even with the Spuds signing players like Corluka & Pavlychenko - who are players we couldve easiliy bought makes it look even worse. Looking at it now, I dont blame players for wanting to leave for bigger money & better chances of winning trophies which in the short term looks like its gonna happen wheather we like it or not unless the hierarchy change their ways, also ive got great respect for Ken Friar but when it comes to transfers, hes no Dave Dein.
I don’t blame players for wanting to leave Arsenal (3/9)
Picking up on just one point, the suggestion that we can't afford to drop any points is just silly. How many games did United lose last year, on the way to winning the league with one of the highest points totals in history? Five games (while Chelsea and Arsenal each lost three games). Do you think Ferguson said after each of those defeats "Oh no, we can't win the league now"? Of course not.
All that can be guaranteed in a 38-game season is that every team will drop points, due to bad form, bad decisions and bad luck. And if you take a look at the table, you'll see that every side in the league, after just three games, has already dropped points.
All that can be guaranteed in a 38-game season is that every team will drop points, due to bad form, bad decisions and bad luck. And if you take a look at the table, you'll see that every side in the league, after just three games, has already dropped points.
Sigh ... getting very tired of reading whinging articles. As the previous person said - we all wanted another one signing at least. Please stop posting boring boring boring articles repeating the same old same old same old ... S***. Move on, get a life, and let's get out out there and win the title!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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GoonerGerry
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The thing that winds me up is that so many people seem to think all you have to do is spend stupid wads of cash. Arsene Wenger is not Mourinho (thank God). He won't spunk untold millions on players who may or may not improve the team. He only buys players who are as good as or better than what we've already got, and they must also fit the profile of an Arsenal player.
Yes, with hindsight it looks like letting Diarra go was a mistake. When I first heard about him agitating for a move I wanted the club to tell him to shut up and honour the contract he'd only just signed. Perhaps another solution might have been to loan him out. But do you seriously think the club didn't think of these options? Reading between the lines, I think we got rid of a disruptive influence.
Sadly, Flamini couldn't be persuaded to stay and has been very difficult to replace. There are very few players in the world who can match his energy and work-rate. The press linked us with Inler and Veloso (among many others) and it seems to be generally accepted that we came close to buying Alonso. For whatever reason, none of these transfers happened. You don't always get what you want. I don't see any need to panic and scream for a new manager or demand new investment from dubious sources. We can still compete with the Scum (and City).
Yes, with hindsight it looks like letting Diarra go was a mistake. When I first heard about him agitating for a move I wanted the club to tell him to shut up and honour the contract he'd only just signed. Perhaps another solution might have been to loan him out. But do you seriously think the club didn't think of these options? Reading between the lines, I think we got rid of a disruptive influence.
Sadly, Flamini couldn't be persuaded to stay and has been very difficult to replace. There are very few players in the world who can match his energy and work-rate. The press linked us with Inler and Veloso (among many others) and it seems to be generally accepted that we came close to buying Alonso. For whatever reason, none of these transfers happened. You don't always get what you want. I don't see any need to panic and scream for a new manager or demand new investment from dubious sources. We can still compete with the Scum (and City).
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QuartzGooner
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Seems the writer of the article was averse to full stops and commas!
Not badly written otherwise though.
As for players leaving;
Certain players have Champions League football as a minimum guarantee.
Not in their contracts, but their agent knows if we fail to qualify then it means automatically agitating for a move.
Worth bearing in mind if we are struggling in December.
Not badly written otherwise though.
As for players leaving;
Certain players have Champions League football as a minimum guarantee.
Not in their contracts, but their agent knows if we fail to qualify then it means automatically agitating for a move.
Worth bearing in mind if we are struggling in December.
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I Hate Hleb
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For the love of christ!!GoonerGerry wrote:The thing that winds me up is that so many people seem to think all you have to do is spend stupid wads of cash. Arsene Wenger is not Mourinho (thank God). He won't spunk untold millions on players who may or may not improve the team. He only buys players who are as good as or better than what we've already got, and they must also fit the profile of an Arsenal player....
No-one is asking for Wenger to spend £30 million on one player or even wads of cash!!
Some of us just want him to spend some money to improve the obviously weak areas of the squad. Now what part of that message are some of you having difficulty understanding?
First things first, welcome to the forum Gerry!I Hate Hleb wrote:For the love of christ!!GoonerGerry wrote:The thing that winds me up is that so many people seem to think all you have to do is spend stupid wads of cash. Arsene Wenger is not Mourinho (thank God). He won't spunk untold millions on players who may or may not improve the team. He only buys players who are as good as or better than what we've already got, and they must also fit the profile of an Arsenal player....
No-one is asking for Wenger to spend £30 million on one player or even wads of cash!!
Some of us just want him to spend some money to improve the obviously weak areas of the squad. Now what part of that message are some of you having difficulty understanding?
Have to say, I agree with IHH. And in a sense so does Wenger: like all of us, he knew we needed a defensive midfielder, which is why he tried to buy Inler and Alonso. There are times when money has to be spent, and this transfer window was one of them. We all hope Wenger gets away with it, because that would mean we're succeeding on the pitch. But why did Wenger allow it to happen, why were the bids left so late and why weren't offers that can't be refused made? I love him being our manager, and hope he's around for a long time to come, but he screwed up this time, no question.
The issue is quite clear isn't it? If we don't need a central midfielder then why would Wenger attempt to spunk 10-14 mill on either Inler or Alonso? Why indeed? if we don't need one then it's just an unacceptable waste of meny we do not have, right? yes - so ... If he was after one or both of them we surely need some reinforcements .... which we don't now have. So - we tried to strengthen but failed and now we are weaker than would be desired... fucking crap but we have to live with it - unlike other clubs.
sucks the big one.
sucks the big one.
people are unhappy because even a blind man can see where we have weakness
wenger fucked up last jan by not adding to the squad and wenger has fucked up this summer by not adding more experience to the squad, but lets hope that we get a good start and are there or there abouts come jan and then we can push forward with hopefully an extra quality player or two
wenger fucked up last jan by not adding to the squad and wenger has fucked up this summer by not adding more experience to the squad, but lets hope that we get a good start and are there or there abouts come jan and then we can push forward with hopefully an extra quality player or two
It's Wengers contradictions that are so hard to take - last season he says we suffered because of lack of squad strength and lack of experience, so he lets a load of experienced players leave?? Why can't a journalist throw that question at him?
Why would you only make an offer for Alonso at the last minute if you really wanted him and why would you worry about the odd 2m.......two thirds gate receipts from ONE Emirates match?
Why would you say you were going to sign players by a certain deadline and then when you don't, say 'I have no idea who we may sign I'm not watching anyone in particular'
Why say we will sign two super duper players then don't do it?
Why have we got a worldwide scouting network if we haven't got a clue at the end of summer who we can sign in central midfield?
Lies, Lies, Lies. THAT'S what pisses me off more than not signing anyone!!
Why would you only make an offer for Alonso at the last minute if you really wanted him and why would you worry about the odd 2m.......two thirds gate receipts from ONE Emirates match?
Why would you say you were going to sign players by a certain deadline and then when you don't, say 'I have no idea who we may sign I'm not watching anyone in particular'
Why say we will sign two super duper players then don't do it?
Why have we got a worldwide scouting network if we haven't got a clue at the end of summer who we can sign in central midfield?
Lies, Lies, Lies. THAT'S what pisses me off more than not signing anyone!!
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