Dear Mr Wenger - WE DEMAND A TROPHY THIS SEASON - Thanks PAL

charliegeorgewhocanhitem · Fri Oct 24, 2008 9:01 pm

Get some fucking perspective for fucks sake, no matter how much anyone "demands" we aint going to win a trophy every season. I can't believe how comfortable and complacent we have become over the last 10 years or so and have got to the stage where some of ours "demand" a trophy in payment for their "support". Arsenal are in my blood and if we did'nt win a trophy for the next 100 years (if it was possible to live that long

) they'd still be in my ancient blood. They were in my blood the morning after some abysmal times, after we lost at home to Walsall and away to Wrexham and York City in the 80s and the seasons we flirted with relegation in the mid 70s and the week in 1980 when I saw us lose to wham and valencia in two cup finals in the same week. Yes I was gutted, sick and pissed off for fuck knows how long after but at the end of it all and what kept me coming back was the fact that I'm Arsenal through and through, thick and thin, good times and bad and if we win fuck all this season then I'll be pissed off, moaning and gutted but my love for Arsenal does'nt depend on the "demand" for a trophy, it's been unconditional since, as a small boy I lived through a losing league cup final to 3rd division Swindon Town and it's survived right through to the eve of me entering old age

and always will. The fates willing I'll be back next season even if, as seems likely we win nothing this season and with our dodgy defence atm I would'nt put too much money on us having a great one

but my support won't be conditional on a trophy

Gunner4LiF3 · Post by **Gunner4LiF3** » Fri Oct 24, 2008 9:06 pm

thank god at least charlie has sense around here!!!

these people grew up with the team winning trophies, they will fuck off and support another team if we dont win a trophy soon.

We need supporters who follow the team all the time not ones who only support a winning team

Post by **g88ner** » Fri Oct 24, 2008 10:43 pm

Gunner4LiF3 wrote:thank god at least charlie has sense around here!!!

these people grew up with the team winning trophies, they will fuck off and support another team if we dont win a trophy soon.

We need supporters who follow the team all the time not ones who only support a winning team

To be fair, I don't think Calo speaks for many on the forum

We can't demand trophies, as - like it or not - we haven't got the finances to match ManUre and Chelsea - and that's not Wenger's fault.

I think most of us would say that all we want is to feel that the club is doing everything possible - within reason - to be as successful as possible.
- personally, I don't think Wenger is doing that, and seems rather too pre-occupied with his experiment for my liking.

Our squad is very talented, but we have major weaknesses in the centre of midfield and central defence - and Wenger had plenty of money made availble to him, and he chose not to spend it. It looks to have cost us any chance of winning the title, even this this early on in the season.. and that is not acceptable, in my opinion.

I'm still with Wenger... but I'm concerned.

Radford149 · Post by **Radford149** » Fri Oct 24, 2008 11:59 pm

charliegeorgewhocanhitem wrote:Get some fucking perspective for fucks sake, no matter how much anyone "demands" we aint going to win a trophy every season. I can't believe how comfortable and complacent we have become over the last 10 years or so and have got to the stage where some of ours "demand" a trophy in payment for their "support". Arsenal are in my blood and if we did'nt win a trophy for the next 100 years (if it was possible to live that long ) they'd still be in my ancient blood. They were in my blood the morning after some abysmal times, after we lost at home to Walsall and away to Wrexham and York City in the 80s and the seasons we flirted with relegation in the mid 70s and the week in 1980 when I saw us lose to wham and valencia in two cup finals in the same week. Yes I was gutted, sick and pissed off for fuck knows how long after but at the end of it all and what kept me coming back was the fact that I'm Arsenal through and through, thick and thin, good times and bad and if we win fuck all this season then I'll be pissed off, moaning and gutted but my love for Arsenal does'nt depend on the "demand" for a trophy, it's been unconditional since, as a small boy I lived through a losing league cup final to 3rd division Swindon Town and it's survived right through to the eve of me entering old age and always will. The fates willing I'll be back next season even if, as seems likely we win nothing this season and with our dodgy defence atm I would'nt put too much money on us having a great one but my support won't be conditional on a trophy

my point excatly

leedsgooner · Post by **leedsgooner** » Sat Oct 25, 2008 1:56 am

Agree with the above, for most fans there's been some dire times and some horrific football. I remember my first visit to Highbury being a stale 0-0 against sheff weds (Stefan Schwarz was my idol back then for some reason). Think we finished 12th that season. Then I saw us lose at Goodison in the last minute to a Rooney wonderstrike a few years later. Before that I thought Id go see us at Bradford City in order to witness a guaranteed victory...we lost 2-1. Nowadays our football is sooo much better and pleasing on the eye but i just feel that we have a perceived vulnerability that just doesnt exist with Manure or Chelski. with them you expect a victory and their fans must surely not have the same nerves I have before an Arsenal match..and this must surely rub off on the opposition

Calo · Post by **Calo** » Sat Oct 25, 2008 9:25 am

gusher311 wrote:
Calo wrote:
SWLGooner wrote:
Calo wrote: no hes the only one whom tries to cause trouble for me now - everyone else has given me a chance
Give me some credit mate.. .. no, I'm past that.
not you - your great fun to discuss football with

that texan gussher with the nerd glasses

sorry if you took that the wrong way, I was only joking. Just thought it was a funny thread since we all want a trophy this season.

OK CANT WE START AGAIN PLEASE GUSHER
BUT IF YOU DONT LIKE MY THREADS PLEASE DONT KEEP TAKING THE PISS - i CAN BE A NICE CHAP IF NOT KEPTED HARRASHED-

aLSO IF YOU CAN STOP THE NEXT INVASION PLANNED IN 6 MONTHS FOR IRAN ID APPRECIATE IT- WE IN THE uk ARE ON OUR KNEES THE GOV HAS TAKEN OUR PENSION MONEY AND WE CANT GET MORTGAGES AND ARE SAVING ARE SAFER ON THE MOON THATS IF WE HAVE ANY LEFT SOON ANYWAY - YOUR BANKS ALSO HAVE BANCRUPTED THE WORLD SO PLEASE ASK THEM TO BEHAVE

tHANKS

gus ceasar is a legend · Sat Oct 25, 2008 9:29 am

Told you he was a wind up merchant and so did others!

Calo · Post by **Calo** » Sat Oct 25, 2008 9:29 am

leedsgooner wrote:Agree with the above, for most fans there's been some dire times and some horrific football. I remember my first visit to Highbury being a stale 0-0 against sheff weds (Stefan Schwarz was my idol back then for some reason). Think we finished 12th that season. Then I saw us lose at Goodison in the last minute to a Rooney wonderstrike a few years later. Before that I thought Id go see us at Bradford City in order to witness a guaranteed victory...we lost 2-1. Nowadays our football is sooo much better and pleasing on the eye but i just feel that we have a perceived vulnerability that just doesnt exist with Manure or Chelski. with them you expect a victory and their fans must surely not have the same nerves I have before an Arsenal match..and this must surely rub off on the opposition

DONT CARE ABOUT HISTORY

Three/four years is too long for The Arsenal

Also is criminal we have not a single CL - disgusting - I demand it happens - we need to push Arsene and the board - make them realise we not just going to smile and say nothing

look what happened to shef wed - lost their ambition like notts forest

Calo · Post by **Calo** » Sat Oct 25, 2008 9:35 am

charliegeorgewhocanhitem wrote:Get some fucking perspective for fucks sake, no matter how much anyone "demands" we aint going to win a trophy every season. I can't believe how comfortable and complacent we have become over the last 10 years or so and have got to the stage where some of ours "demand" a trophy in payment for their "support". Arsenal are in my blood and if we did'nt win a trophy for the next 100 years (if it was possible to live that long ) they'd still be in my ancient blood. They were in my blood the morning after some abysmal times, after we lost at home to Walsall and away to Wrexham and York City in the 80s and the seasons we flirted with relegation in the mid 70s and the week in 1980 when I saw us lose to wham and valencia in two cup finals in the same week. Yes I was gutted, sick and pissed off for fuck knows how long after but at the end of it all and what kept me coming back was the fact that I'm Arsenal through and through, thick and thin, good times and bad and if we win fuck all this season then I'll be pissed off, moaning and gutted but my love for Arsenal does'nt depend on the "demand" for a trophy, it's been unconditional since, as a small boy I lived through a losing league cup final to 3rd division Swindon Town and it's survived right through to the eve of me entering old age and always will. The fates willing I'll be back next season even if, as seems likely we win nothing this season and with our dodgy defence atm I would'nt put too much money on us having a great one but my support won't be conditional on a trophy

sorry i not agree at all

if charlie george had this attitude he would have done a square pass like ray wilkins rtaher than shoot and score a great goal in cup final

progress and maintaining and then superceeding targets

NEVER take your eye of the BALL

donaldo · Post by **donaldo** » Sat Oct 25, 2008 9:41 am

I agree with Calo on this

It was only 4 years ago we went 49 league games unbeaten and since then we have let Man Utd and Chelsea go well beyond us.
I am fed up with fans saying be patient the trophies will come.But will they? Will Cesc stay if we are trophyless again?
Not if we stand still while Man Utd and Chelsea streghten their squads every summer while we are still shopping at the bargin basement.(Silvestre,Bishoff)

If you think sucess is a top 4 finish you will be happy this season but the time has come to WIN things

Calo · Post by **Calo** » Sat Oct 25, 2008 9:45 am

g88ner wrote:
Gunner4LiF3 wrote:thank god at least charlie has sense around here!!!

these people grew up with the team winning trophies, they will fuck off and support another team if we dont win a trophy soon.

We need supporters who follow the team all the time not ones who only support a winning team
To be fair, I don't think Calo speaks for many on the forum

We can't demand trophies, as - like it or not - we haven't got the finances to match ManUre and Chelsea - and that's not Wenger's fault.

I think most of us would say that all we want is to feel that the club is doing everything possible - within reason - to be as successful as possible.
- personally, I don't think Wenger is doing that, and seems rather too pre-occupied with his experiment for my liking.

Our squad is very talented, but we have major weaknesses in the centre of midfield and central defence - and Wenger had plenty of money made availble to him, and he chose not to spend it. It looks to have cost us any chance of winning the title, even this this early on in the season.. and that is not acceptable, in my opinion.

I'm still with Wenger... but I'm concerned.

he had Â£30M didnt spend it - if he had nothing i would be with him 101% and i would shut up although id want the board out

but we dont have no decent central defender who is commanding and we have tried everyone except me on the def mind central role

also im not saying i wont support the club

im saying i wont support the manager

its my choice you make yours

Calo · Post by **Calo** » Sat Oct 25, 2008 9:51 am

donaldo wrote:I agree with Calo on this

It was only 4 years ago we went 49 league games unbeaten and since then we have let Man Utd and Chelsea go well beyond us.
I am fed up with fans saying be patient the trophies will come.But will they? Will Cesc stay if we are trophyless again?
Not if we stand still while Man Utd and Chelsea streghten their squads every summer while we are still shopping at the bargin basement.(Silvestre,Bishoff)

If you think sucess is a top 4 finish you will be happy this season but the time has come to WIN things

its appear to me that the below 4th teams bar aston villa have become worse CAK then ever

so 4th will be no feat

also it means there will be a top 3 then a gap with us in then another gap and the rest

is that accpetable - really good progress?

dont be conned by ferne game - they are useless

who have we played yet !!! you wait till be

the fixture list so far was kind to us we shoudl be top !!!!!

I only speak the truth

the greatest thing only this season to me is the emergance of the THEO THE GREAT !!!

Dont CRY when CESC leaves ? Just remember hes a winner and a CL win would mean there no reason to leave at all

Radford149 · Post by **Radford149** » Sat Oct 25, 2008 10:04 am

this thread is total bollocks

Bazza74 · Post by **Bazza74** » Sat Oct 25, 2008 10:12 am

Radford149 wrote:this thread is total bollocks

couldn't agree more

aw · Post by aw » Sat Oct 25, 2008 10:40 am

charliegeorgewhocanhitem wrote:Get some fucking perspective for fucks sake, no matter how much anyone "demands" we aint going to win a trophy every season. I can't believe how comfortable and complacent we have become over the last 10 years or so and have got to the stage where some of ours "demand" a trophy in payment for their "support". Arsenal are in my blood and if we did'nt win a trophy for the next 100 years (if it was possible to live that long ) they'd still be in my ancient blood. They were in my blood the morning after some abysmal times, after we lost at home to Walsall and away to Wrexham and York City in the 80s and the seasons we flirted with relegation in the mid 70s and the week in 1980 when I saw us lose to wham and valencia in two cup finals in the same week. Yes I was gutted, sick and pissed off for fuck knows how long after but at the end of it all and what kept me coming back was the fact that I'm Arsenal through and through, thick and thin, good times and bad and if we win fuck all this season then I'll be pissed off, moaning and gutted but my love for Arsenal does'nt depend on the "demand" for a trophy, it's been unconditional since, as a small boy I lived through a losing league cup final to 3rd division Swindon Town and it's survived right through to the eve of me entering old age and always will. The fates willing I'll be back next season even if, as seems likely we win nothing this season and with our dodgy defence atm I would'nt put too much money on us having a great one but my support won't be conditional on a trophy

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