SPUDMASHER wrote:King_Kolo wrote:SPUDMASHER wrote:King_Kolo wrote:Fucks sake people let's have some perspective shall we. I guarantee if we'd put out a strong team tonight and lost Cesc or Clichy to injury, everyone would be whingeing about Wenger not resting players, and we could just as easily have lost. The fact is we qualified with a game to go which in our current sitiation is more than acceptable in my book. Plus some of our bright young stars got an invaluable experience on a big Eurpoean stage instead of the pointless Carling Cup. It doesn't matter anymore whether you finish first or second, I personally think we play better against big sides anyway so I'd rather get a Barcelona or a Juve. We know some of the players out tonight aren't good enough but they are squad players, you can't compare them with te first team of 4 years ago, it doesn't make any sense. Don't forget we also had the likes of Luzhny, Cygan, Stepanovs etc. Lets just be grateful we're in the draw.
utter bollocks....utter utter bollocks. Grateful my arse.
That performance was a fucking disgrace and if useless c**ts like Bendtner, Song and Eboue are considered good enough to be squad players even, then I'm a purple banana

So would you have preferred us to play the first team then? Despite the fact we'd probably have lost anyway as they knew they'd already qualified. And you wouldn't have complained if we'd lost Clichy/Sagna/Cesc or whoever for 6 games through the inevitable injury they would have picked up??
Even more bollocks
Do you know we would have lost anyway?
Do you know a key player would have got an injury?
No you don't.
We threw away the opportunity to top the group. To go into the next round as group winners. Much of what happens on a football pitch is in a player/teams head. When we face our next opponents they will be playing against a team that couldn't win their group. That gives them a psychological advantage. We had an opportunity to show the rest of Europe what we were about and we didn't take it.
We had another defeat in a season littered with them. You need confidence in camp if you are to do well and no matter how you dress it up with excuses about second string players one fact remains. Arsenal lost a first team match and again broke their momentum.
There was a lot of experience out there last night as well as youngsters and they should have been able to do better than that. They were fucking woeful. That was the single worst performance I have seen from a Wenger team. They couldn't even string three passes together and Bendtner looked like he had no idea what a football is. The sooner that c**t fucks off the better.
Sorry, I know this was posted yesterday but I feel the need to defend myself.
No I don't know we would have lost the game with a full strenght team, or anyone would have been injured, but there would have been a good chance, and by the same token you don't know they would have won, and that nobody would have been injured.
Regarding topping the group being psychologically advantageous - didn't seem to matter last year when we beat Milan, and I honestly don't think any players go out there thinking "hmm, they came 2nd in their group, so this should be easy". In your words, utter bollocks.
I do agree we've had too many defeats this season, and as I have so far only been able to afford to go the the villa and hull games, I have suffered as much as most. I also agree that Bendtner is a complete waste of space. But it seems at the moment that everyone is jumping at every possible opportunity to criticise Wenger and the team, and I just feel it's important to offer a different perspective. We're going through a seriously bad time, but it's our first real bad time under Wenger, and I just feel with everything he's done for this club, he deserves some loyalty and patience from the fans.
I'm sure this will be considered utter bollocks as well, but just wanted to get it out there. Cheers.