VAN PERSIE A HUGELY OVERRATED PLAYER

[Number 5]

I have had enough of this shit.

Van Persie is absoultely an amazing player.



RVP is the mainstay of our team for years to come. Wake the fuck up will you?

Number 5 you are one of the better writers on here, so I mean you no disrespect but;

I really disagree with you about RvP, for the reasons I have stated in my above post.

Donaldo sums it up when he says this guy plays for RvP FC.

He is not my idea of a mainstay of the team for years to come, no way.

We would be well to sell him, Adebayor and Bendtner.

Build a new strikeforce around Eduardo, Arshavin, Nasri and Walcott.

We then add in two players for the three we sell, making sure they are fast, tall and strong to give us a physical option, to complement the trickery and finesse of the others.

Quartz

I cannot agree.

For me RVP plays well for the team, speaks well for the team and always shows his commitment before after and during games.

I know you will disagree. You've made a long point of it. Just as I have consistantly made a point of RVP being one of the top 5 strikers in world football.

I rate him highly of course and after tonights game, if pen #2 don't go in, we are out. Who took that mother fucker? RVP.

I will never conceed this point.

[wlchuccc]

I have had enough of this shit.

Van Persie is absoultely an amazing player.

Gooner Sid you need to jump on a few more back before his tonight. Clearly he shouldn't be a lone striker ,that's not his game, just as Bendtner is not a left winger, Eboue a right winger, nor Song a defensive midfielder. AW picked him up there alone tonight and he ran his bollocks off without much success but fuck me there was none for him to have. He had the balls for a penner and at 1-0 down it needed to be scored, balls of fucking steel.

RVP is the mainstay of our team for years to come. Wake the fuck up will you?

that suits you better though

What?

Wake the fuck up will you?

You can fucking do one.

Tell me about how Walcott is the future or some shit like that....

How minutes does he need to score a goal? How many chances he missed? I have a full respect to RVP. He is a good player with amazing technique. BUT we need to a team player, we need a striker to score a goal...For me, Walcott has much better potentials than RVP, I am sorry mate...Wasn't he our best player before the injury this season??!!

[Lethal]

walcott more potential then robin !!!!!!!!!!!!!

theo has pace,and nothing else

i love theo but hes one dimensional with no other shining quality then speed,he will be a good player for us but never like TH14 like some compare him

robin,although inconsistent can be a total genius,he might be slightly bonkers

but whaadaya gonna do.......

[wlchuccc]

I rate him highly of course and after tonights game, if pen #2 don't go in, we are out. Who took that mother fucker? RVP.

I will never conceed this point.

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At last, I find something to agree with you
Yes the pen #2 tonight was crucial for us

[Number 5]

How minutes does he need to score a goal? How many chances he missed? I have a full respect to RVP. He is a good player with amazing technique. BUT we need to a team player, we need a striker to score a goal...For me, Walcott has much better potentials than RVP, I am sorry mate...Wasn't he our best player before the injury this season??!!

Yeah we need Theo as our main striker. Who always looks to go to the defenders left, it's a wonder they haven't sussed him out. Oh wait they have, just as Roma's defender's waited for tonight. And any team in the next round will do. Given a fully comitted team you will see the best of Van Persie as seen in the first leg. But with 25 yards between midfield and strikers even Villa would have stunk the place out playing for us tonight. At least RVP kept going till the second penner after extra time. And team players just won't do that will they?

[digger]

RVP is quality. With miserable deluded scapegoat seeking fuckers like you lot as supporters no wonder our best players outgrow for this club.

An outstanding player who's playing a full season for the first time in his career (something easily forgotten), capable of the sublime on occasion, the simple, and amazing vision to bring others into play. Our best striker of a ball, whether dead or moving. Just like another misfit who was "shit" in his first season, he's the victim of a poor side. The other misfit? A player too great to shit in the same toilet as the likes of John Hartson, McGoldrick, Kiwomya etc, Bergkamp

Wait until he's paired with Eduardo, then judge him. Not when he's alongside one of the lumbering oafs who've been taking turns to front our attack all season.

If we're going to sell underperforming players, why sell RVP for £12m when we'll be left with a squad still consisting of Denilson, Song, Eboue, Adebayor, Bendtner, Silvestre, etc, etc

[augie]

Can I say that instead of debating about whether rvp is class or not, or if he is a team player or not can we at least agree that tonight his effort was absolute shit I will always allow players a bad performance if they are trying but for me the guy didnt even try tonight and that really pisses me off Again you can defend him about playing up top on his own not suiting him and while that may affect his performance it does not excuse his workrate and alongside nasri tonight I thought their workrate or lack thereof was a disgrace to the jersey

[Number 5]

Can I say that instead of debating about whether rvp is class or not, or if he is a team player or not can we at least agree that tonight his effort was absolute shit I will always allow players a bad performance if they are trying but for me the guy didnt even try tonight and that really pisses me off Again you can defend him about playing up top on his own not suiting him and while that may affect his performance it does not excuse his workrate and alongside nasri tonight I thought their workrate or lack thereof was a disgrace to the jersey

Wow, I must say I do love it how people can see the same game differently.

Whilst I will agree not much positive came from RVP tonight I still will say as the top link in the chain, short of coming into the midfield and being a greedy non team player as some would have you believe, there wasn't much else he could have done

His play is directly attributed to the midfield and how quickly they get they ball into decent attacking areas. And they didn't.

Nasri I thought ran his arse off. A typical Ljungberg performance, plenty of industry but again little ahead of him and little support.

Again Wenger got lucky. Roma are/were easily beat-able, we will struggle next again next round.

[digger]

I don't think any player covered themselves in glory tonight as far as workrate was concerned. The only player who really busted a gut was Sagna IMO.

[QuartzGooner]

Walcott has a lot more to offer than pace, needs to be judged, as Eduardo does, after six or seven games back from injury when match fitness has returned.
Same will be true of Cesc when he comes back.

Walcott has bottle, and athletic intelligence. He has the ability to try the unexpected, and good ball control too.

Would always pick him over Eboue on right wing.

[Number 5]

Walcott has a lot more to offer than pace, needs to be judged, as Eduardo does, after six or seven games back from injury when match fitness has returned.
Same will be true of Cesc when he comes back.

Walcott has bottle, and athletic intelligence. He has the ability to try the unexpected, and good ball control too.

Would always pick him over Eboue on right wing.

And our top scorer Van Persie has nothing? Fuck him eh? We'd only be chasing what 6th without him?

Cheers Rob, now fuck off.

[QuartzGooner]

Walcott has a lot more to offer than pace, needs to be judged, as Eduardo does, after six or seven games back from injury when match fitness has returned.
Same will be true of Cesc when he comes back.

Walcott has bottle, and athletic intelligence. He has the ability to try the unexpected, and good ball control too.

Would always pick him over Eboue on right wing.

And our top scorer Van Persie has nothing? Fuck him eh? We'd only be chasing what 6th without him?

Cheers Rob, now fuck off.

RvP does have some positive attributes -

He can flick out a shot with no backlift thereby scoring when a shot does not look "on".

He has good close ball control.

He can score chip shots from 25 yards.


Yet for a "Top Scorer" and supposed "Key Player", he is not at the level that we deserve.

He is no way a linear successor to Wright, Bergkamp or Henry,

Neither as a goalscorer or as a goal creator.

He is an inconsistent under achiever, who has never formed a proper partnership with any other Arsenal player in four and a half seasons at the club.


We should cut our losses, take what money we can get for him, which will be reasonable, and rebuild.

[Number 5]

Walcott has a lot more to offer than pace, needs to be judged, as Eduardo does, after six or seven games back from injury when match fitness has returned.
Same will be true of Cesc when he comes back.

Walcott has bottle, and athletic intelligence. He has the ability to try the unexpected, and good ball control too.

Would always pick him over Eboue on right wing.

And our top scorer Van Persie has nothing? Fuck him eh? We'd only be chasing what 6th without him?

Cheers Rob, now fuck off.

RvP does have some positive attributes -

He can flick out a shot with no backlift thereby scoring when a shot does not look "on".

He has good close ball control.

He can score chip shots from 25 yards.


Yet for a "Top Scorer" and supposed "Key Player", he is not at the level that we deserve.

He is no way a linear successor to Wright, Bergkamp or Henry,

Neither as a goalscorer or as a goal creator.

He is an inconsistent under achiever, who has never formed a proper partnership with any other Arsenal player in four and a half seasons at the club.


We should cut our losses, take what money we can get for him, which will be reasonable, and rebuild.

What losses? Was it the fact we've had RVP in the team and not one fuck all? Really Quartz I know you don't think that. If it is then lets chuck out that Cesc fella too...

He is no way a linear successor to Wright, Bergkamp or Henry,

Certainly no way Wright can be compared to TH or DB, a great goalscorer but 100% trouble for the team , the manager, really any one who wasn't Ian Wright. Quartz that is a really bad example if you are agreeing RVP is playing for his own team. What was Wright doing? Don't say he backed it up, his only title came from being off the bench. Holes everywhere in that consideration.

He is an inconsistent under achiever, who has never formed a proper partnership with any other Arsenal player in four and a half seasons at the club.

When has he had the chance? Henry who wouldn't pass to him so he had to do shit alone? Baptista, the one season wonder-less, Adebayor who really does play for Number 1, Eduardo injured? How dare RVP not form anything with anyone who has been playing as long as he has.

Greedy fuck.

[Yankee_Gooner_Dandee]

hes not overrated. today he was poor but so was everyone bar Diaby and Toure. he needs to be played alongside a target man. I REALLY dont understand why AW didnt just set up a 4-4-2 after we went a goal down, pushing Nasri on the left wing.

[flash gunner]

RVP didnt have the best of games last night but he ran his bollocks off and bnever stopped trying to make something work. No one plays well all the time but for his effort you cant knock him. As g88ner wrote on page 2 (i think) he isnt a traget man who plays up front on his own, he needs a partner