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Post by **I Hate Hleb** » Thu Nov 26, 2009 1:49 am

the playing mantis wrote:brazilian why pick on me when i say denilson is average? loads of others have. o yeah perhaps its the fact hat youve never seen arsenal play and should stick to a local team that you havent got a clue about this side and think denilson is good enough for arsenal, and dont like it when people tell you how it actually is. get real chum.

Very weak argument there mantis.

As Brazilian - with whom I disagree on the level of Denilson's quality - goes on to mention, the majority of this forum's members, and indeed Arsenal fans in general, aren't local. That shouldn't, and in my book doesn't, make them less of an Arsenal fan than you or I - as long as they have the club in their heart.

By the way, I was born in Sicily but was brought up on Isledon Road, a few hundred yards away from Highbury Stadium. Now does that make me one of the more genuine fans or should I have supported Juventus/AC Milan?

Post by **brazilianGOONER** » Thu Nov 26, 2009 2:31 am

marcengels wrote:For me BG, you have joined the ranks (albeit that you are highly amusing ) of those who have to start threads on a player under pressure/not rated, and say "there, see, he is good and you lot don't know what you're talking about" Could do with a little bit less of this here - of course, only in my opinion.

In terms of avatars - 10/10 mate

aren't the avatars the only thing that matters??? that means i'm 10/10. thanks marcengels!!!

MM99 wrote: i think this was done more in jest than anything. at least thats what i gathered from the smiling faces and the winks at the end of BG's post.

i am crazy, mm99, but this 'treble' thing and the defending of all our players is half optimism and half pisstaking, because of the huge pessimism in here. so, you're right, fella!

I Hate Hleb wrote: Very weak argument there mantis. As Brazilian - with whom I disagree on the level of Denilson's quality - goes on to mention, the majority of this forum's members, and indeed Arsenal fans in general, aren't local. That shouldn't, and in my book doesn't, make them less of an Arsenal fan than you or I - as long as they have the club in their heart.

By the way, I was born in Sicily but was brought up on Isledon Road, a few hundred yards away from Highbury Stadium. Now does that make me one of the more genuine fans or should I have supported Juventus/AC Milan?

a shame you are so wrong about denilson's quality, because your post is excellent

FrenchGun · Post by **FrenchGun** » Thu Nov 26, 2009 3:26 am

I saw the guy for the first time yesterday since the beginning of the season, so I'll cut him some slack. But so far he has disappointed me in quite few ways, especially his playing. But hey! Song used to disappoint me in quite some ways not so long ago, so who knows??

If you look His shot though, the ball had a very particular trajectory. It started going like it had a good curve, then went suddenly the other side. Ok that might sound weired, but it's what I saw. I reckon though that a goal like Cech will have fun with those kind of shot.

Post by **brazilianGOONER** » Thu Nov 26, 2009 11:12 am

FrenchGun wrote:I saw the guy for the first time yesterday since the beginning of the season, so I'll cut him some slack. But so far he has disappointed me in quite few ways, especially his playing. But hey! Song used to disappoint me in quite some ways not so long ago, so who knows??

If you look His shot though, the ball had a very particular trajectory. It started going like it had a good curve, then went suddenly the other side. Ok that might sound weired, but it's what I saw. I reckon though that a goal like Cech will have fun with those kind of shot.

rewatching the shot again and again, from some cameras, you realise that the trajectory of the ball actually changed a little bit twice

before hitting the net. look carefully.

it looks easier than it is. it was actually a wonderful longshot. i still think a keeper like cech would've saved it, but it was a very good shot anyway.

the playing mantis · Post by **the playing mantis** » Thu Nov 26, 2009 1:05 pm

brazilian, you spend all your time on a forum making personal comments about people, thats what i consider pathetic, havent you a better use of your time????, if i was in your position i would consider getting a life, perhaps a girlfriend, wife, gay lover, some kids maybe to fill your time with rather than hurling abuse at me. But that would be stooping to your level and making personal comments.

ok fair play just because you dont go doesnt mean you dont know, even though when you've had a season ticket for 15 years it does give you a chance to see the matches in a wider spectrum, seeing what people are doing of the ball, what kind of runs they make etc...

im entitled to my opinion on if this clubs shit or not, so why do you feel the need to make personal remarks and start name calling everytime i do and disagree with your views???

i dont think this club is shit i think its in danger of becoming even more of an also ran, when the club could so easily have become the dominant team in england.

i think the managers a deluded stubborn fool and misses DD massively when he fails to address the weaknesses that have existed for 5 years yet claims we have a chance of winning the big comps and comes up with the smae excuses, especially now he has money and chooses not to spend it.

i think denilson, alumnia, diaby, eduardo are shit with the young players like vela, ramsey, mannone and flapianski overated and not justifying the huge wages they are on (mannone excepted) i think there are a number of world class players at the club and some overatted ones. im entitled to this view.

Your point re positive post, well the main point of a forum such as this is to get your beef with the team of your chest, it creates debate and interest. when things are going well theres little need to come on and state the obvious.

all your hostility has stemmed from my opinion of eduardo being an inadequate replacement for RVP. well ive been proved right thus far it seems just cos these 2 guys are brazilian any critiscism of them is taken personally by you.

Post by **brazilianGOONER** » Thu Nov 26, 2009 1:42 pm

the playing mantis wrote:brazilian, you spend all your time on a forum making personal comments about people, thats what i consider pathetic, havent you a better use of your time????, if i was in your position i would consider getting a life, perhaps a girlfriend, wife, gay lover, some kids maybe to fill your time with rather than hurling abuse at me. But that would be stooping to your level and making personal comments.

TPM, i don't spend my time on this forum making personal comments about people, you're the only lucky bastard

i actually spend my time in here posting pics of nice looking behinds and remembering people how great our manager is. oh, and sometimes i talk some sense into people

just read my posts again. i make comments on people only 2% of my posts, maximum.

the playing mantis wrote: ok fair play just because you dont go doesnt mean you dont know, even though when you've had a season ticket for 15 years it does give you a chance to see the matches in a wider spectrum, seeing what people are doing of the ball, what kind of runs they make etc...

in portuguese there's this saying "god gives wings to those who don't know how to fly". does it exist in english?

the playing mantis wrote: im entitled to my opinion on if this clubs shit or not, so why do you feel the need to make personal remarks and start name calling everytime i do and disagree with your views???

yes you are, everyone is, and that's why i like this forum. everyone opens their minds, freedom reigns. freedom even to criticise if seomeone's views seem too extreme. that should all be done normally, and nobody will question which teams they should be supporting.

the playing mantis wrote: i think the managers a deluded stubborn fool and misses DD massively when he fails to address the weaknesses that have existed for 5 years yet claims we have a chance of winning the big comps and comes up with the smae excuses, especially now he has money and chooses not to spend it.

the deluded stubborn fool you talk about is the greatest manager in the history of the club you and i both love, and brought success never thought of before. changed the way we play football, our stadium, our training ground. i think you should show some respect, even if you think he is acting incorrectly. i agree about the stubborn part, tough ::):

the playing mantis wrote: all your hostility has stemmed from my opinion of eduardo being an inadequate replacement for RVP. well ive been proved right thus far it seems just cos these 2 guys are brazilian any critiscism of them is taken personally by you.

you conveniently forget the fact that i also state that bendtner and vela are very good players, simply because they are not brazilian. and as non-patriot, i really don't give a fuck where they come from. if i was worried about that, i would be supporting my local team, like you suggested me

and you have not been proven right, eduardo had a lot more very good performances than bad ones for arsenal, and scored some absolute screamers.

Bendtners Drinking Buddy · Thu Nov 26, 2009 2:02 pm

the playing mantis wrote:brazilian why pick on me when i say denilson is average? loads of others have. o yeah perhaps its the fact hat youve never seen arsenal play and should stick to a local team that you havent got a clue about this side and think denilson is good enough for arsenal, and dont like it when people tell you how it actually is. get real chum.

You really are a knobhead arent you!

Brazillian knows more about Arsenal than you ever will, plus, he is Brazillian, and actually gives us an insight into the Brazil media's views on players.....such as er Denilson?

As for you, you bring us the views of an idiot!

Andreybendtswalestongue · Thu Nov 26, 2009 2:08 pm

the playing mantis wrote:brazilian why pick on me when i say denilson is average? loads of others have. o yeah perhaps its the fact hat youve never seen arsenal play and should stick to a local team that you havent got a clue about this side and think denilson is good enough for arsenal, and dont like it when people tell you how it actually is. get real chum.

Yea you talk rubbish

Bendtners Drinking Buddy · Thu Nov 26, 2009 2:11 pm

Andreybendtswalestongue wrote:
the playing mantis wrote:brazilian why pick on me when i say denilson is average? loads of others have. o yeah perhaps its the fact hat youve never seen arsenal play and should stick to a local team that you havent got a clue about this side and think denilson is good enough for arsenal, and dont like it when people tell you how it actually is. get real chum.

Yea you talk rubbish

ha! This is going to get brilliant if this carrys on....i suggest you'll get bored though, unless of course you have no life outside the forum...

Andreybendtswalestongue · Thu Nov 26, 2009 2:18 pm

Bendtners Drinking Buddy wrote:
Andreybendtswalestongue wrote:
the playing mantis wrote:brazilian why pick on me when i say denilson is average? loads of others have. o yeah perhaps its the fact hat youve never seen arsenal play and should stick to a local team that you havent got a clue about this side and think denilson is good enough for arsenal, and dont like it when people tell you how it actually is. get real chum.

Yea you talk rubbish
ha! This is going to get brilliant if this carrys on....i suggest you'll get bored though, unless of course you have no life outside the forum...

dont say that they will know its us

franksav63 · Post by **franksav63** » Thu Nov 26, 2009 2:19 pm

Bendtners Drinking Buddy wrote:
Andreybendtswalestongue wrote:
the playing mantis wrote:brazilian why pick on me when i say denilson is average? loads of others have. o yeah perhaps its the fact hat youve never seen arsenal play and should stick to a local team that you havent got a clue about this side and think denilson is good enough for arsenal, and dont like it when people tell you how it actually is. get real chum.

Yea you talk rubbish
ha! This is going to get brilliant if this carrys on....i suggest you'll get bored though, unless of course you have no life outside the forum...

Ha ha.... It's one of your pals..... Sorry DB10...

Post by **brazilianGOONER** » Thu Nov 26, 2009 2:45 pm

Bendtners Drinking Buddy wrote:
the playing mantis wrote:brazilian why pick on me when i say denilson is average? loads of others have. o yeah perhaps its the fact hat youve never seen arsenal play and should stick to a local team that you havent got a clue about this side and think denilson is good enough for arsenal, and dont like it when people tell you how it actually is. get real chum.
You really are a knobhead arent you!

Brazillian knows more about Arsenal than you ever will, plus, he is Brazillian, and actually gives us an insight into the Brazil media's views on players.....such as er Denilson?

As for you, you bring us the views of an idiot!

Andreybendtswalestongue · Thu Nov 26, 2009 2:48 pm

brazilianGOONER wrote:
Bendtners Drinking Buddy wrote:
the playing mantis wrote:brazilian why pick on me when i say denilson is average? loads of others have. o yeah perhaps its the fact hat youve never seen arsenal play and should stick to a local team that you havent got a clue about this side and think denilson is good enough for arsenal, and dont like it when people tell you how it actually is. get real chum.
You really are a knobhead arent you!

Brazillian knows more about Arsenal than you ever will, plus, he is Brazillian, and actually gives us an insight into the Brazil media's views on players.....such as er Denilson?

As for you, you bring us the views of an idiot!

you tell him BDB

franksav63 · Post by **franksav63** » Thu Nov 26, 2009 2:53 pm

Andreybendtswalestongue wrote:
brazilianGOONER wrote:
Bendtners Drinking Buddy wrote:
the playing mantis wrote:brazilian why pick on me when i say denilson is average? loads of others have. o yeah perhaps its the fact hat youve never seen arsenal play and should stick to a local team that you havent got a clue about this side and think denilson is good enough for arsenal, and dont like it when people tell you how it actually is. get real chum.
You really are a knobhead arent you!

Brazillian knows more about Arsenal than you ever will, plus, he is Brazillian, and actually gives us an insight into the Brazil media's views on players.....such as er Denilson?

As for you, you bring us the views of an idiot!

no problem mate

Get a bleeding room you two...

Post by **brazilianGOONER** » Thu Nov 26, 2009 3:01 pm

franksav63 wrote:
Andreybendtswalestongue wrote:
brazilianGOONER wrote:
Bendtners Drinking Buddy wrote:
the playing mantis wrote:brazilian why pick on me when i say denilson is average? loads of others have. o yeah perhaps its the fact hat youve never seen arsenal play and should stick to a local team that you havent got a clue about this side and think denilson is good enough for arsenal, and dont like it when people tell you how it actually is. get real chum.
You really are a knobhead arent you!

Brazillian knows more about Arsenal than you ever will, plus, he is Brazillian, and actually gives us an insight into the Brazil media's views on players.....such as er Denilson?

As for you, you bring us the views of an idiot!

no problem mate
Get a bleeding room you two...

nah, i like the voyeur thing!