Can my golf club do this?

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Can my golf club do this?

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Again i am asking for your assistance guys :shock:

My golf club (its a members club) has asked all members to renew their membership early, our membership normally runs from end of march to end of march.

Now they have asked us to cough up a new membership now (1st december) so effectively we lose 4 months of paid green fees.

They needed at least 200 members to aquiesce to this request, this target has been reached.

I however declined because i don't play enough golf throughout the year to see this as value for money.

I have been told though that although i have already paid for 12 months green fees i cannot play at the golf course as a member, i would have to pay and play as a visitor.

Is this legally correct? I pay my membership by direct debit and this coninues to be debited even when i cannot use the golf course.

What makes matters worse is my brother in law is the club captain so i don't want to kick up too much of a fuss and just turn up and play, because if he wasn't captain i most definitely would.

Any suggestions appreciated.

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Can't be legal. Do you pay one DD up front for the whole year or is it one DD per month? If it's yearly you've paid up until March and you are entitled to play I would think. If it's monthly they should stop taking the money straight away. But then there is the issue of "agreement". You had an agreement to be a paid member until March. They are changing the agreement which may leave you a legal path to pursue.

We have a couple of solicitors on here (and a spoofer called rolypoly) I'm sure they could advise you...

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For a second I was thinking this thread title was what Tiger was thinking as his missus tried to chip his head down the street with his own clubs! :lol: :wink:

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DB10GOONER wrote:Can't be legal. Do you pay one DD up front for the whole year or is it one DD per month? If it's yearly you've paid up until March and you are entitled to play I would think. If it's monthly they should stop taking the money straight away. But then there is the issue of "agreement". You had an agreement to be a paid member until March. They are changing the agreement which may leave you a legal path to pursue.

We have a couple of solicitors on here (and a spoofer called rolypoly) I'm sure they could advise you...
Cheers DB, I pay monthly for the green fees but they are debited through a 3rd party company that obviously give the club the membership in full and then debit me over 10 months.

I cannot cancel this as my mate tried and he was charged 30 quid admin charges and threatened with legal action if he didn't conitnue t with the direct debit.

So my only avenue i suspect is whether my golf club can beak their agrement with me even though i am still paying for a membership i am being refused access to. Sucks big time :?

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Have you already paid for the 4 months use of the golf club or do they take the money out at the beginging of each month via the DD?

I would have a look at the agreement you signed to see if it states that this membership can be changed or allterd at any time.

I would imagine that if you have paid in full you should be entitiled to use the golf course as per your original agreement.

If they go back on the agreement I am sure a few swings of your 4 iron might make them think diffrently

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DB10GOONER wrote:For a second I was thinking this thread title was what Tiger was thinking as his missus tried to chip his head down the street with his own clubs! :lol: :wink:
:lol: :lol:

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In a nutshell i would cancel your direct debit and inform the club that you will no longer be requiring your membership with immediate affect.

This is essentially a change in your original terms and if don't agree to it, it voids the original one your DD was set up for.

Then if you want you can rejoin starting payments for december onwards.

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[quote="stg"]Have you already paid for the 4 months use of the golf club or do they take the money out at the beginging of each month via the DD?

I would have a look at the agreement you signed to see if it states that this membership can be changed or allterd at any time.

I would imagine that if you have paid in full you should be entitiled to use the golf course as per your original agreement.

If they go back on the agreement I am sure a few swings of your 4 iron might make them think diffrently[/quote]

That was my first thought but my sister would never forgive me if i embarrased her husband (club captain) :oops: :lol:

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LeftfootlegendGooner wrote:
DB10GOONER wrote:Can't be legal. Do you pay one DD up front for the whole year or is it one DD per month? If it's yearly you've paid up until March and you are entitled to play I would think. If it's monthly they should stop taking the money straight away. But then there is the issue of "agreement". You had an agreement to be a paid member until March. They are changing the agreement which may leave you a legal path to pursue.

We have a couple of solicitors on here (and a spoofer called rolypoly) I'm sure they could advise you...
Cheers DB, I pay monthly for the green fees but they are debited through a 3rd party company that obviously give the club the membership in full and then debit me over 10 months.

I cannot cancel this as my mate tried and he was charged 30 quid admin charges and threatened with legal action if he didn't conitnue t with the direct debit.

So my only avenue i suspect is whether my golf club can beak their agrement with me even though i am still paying for a membership i am being refused access to. Sucks big time :?
I would make an appointment with the golf club to find out what the situation is regarding the 3rd party and the payments made. What if any agreements did the golf club have with the 3rd party

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12thGooner wrote:In a nutshell i would cancel your direct debit and inform the club that you will no longer be requiring your membership with immediate affect.

This is essentially a change in your original terms and if don't agree to it, it voids the original one your DD was set up for.

Then if you want you can rejoin starting payments for december onwards.
That sounds pretty good, although i don't know about this 3rd party company that takes the direct debit, thay already charged my mate for trying to stop his.

Its pissed me off to be honest, i didn't play a ton of golf but joined because they were short of members and my sister asked me to support her husband, now the twat won't let me play the golf i have already overpaid for.

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stg wrote:
LeftfootlegendGooner wrote:
DB10GOONER wrote:Can't be legal. Do you pay one DD up front for the whole year or is it one DD per month? If it's yearly you've paid up until March and you are entitled to play I would think. If it's monthly they should stop taking the money straight away. But then there is the issue of "agreement". You had an agreement to be a paid member until March. They are changing the agreement which may leave you a legal path to pursue.

We have a couple of solicitors on here (and a spoofer called rolypoly) I'm sure they could advise you...
Cheers DB, I pay monthly for the green fees but they are debited through a 3rd party company that obviously give the club the membership in full and then debit me over 10 months.

I cannot cancel this as my mate tried and he was charged 30 quid admin charges and threatened with legal action if he didn't conitnue t with the direct debit.

So my only avenue i suspect is whether my golf club can beak their agrement with me even though i am still paying for a membership i am being refused access to. Sucks big time :?
I would make an appointment with the golf club to find out what the situation is regarding the 3rd party and the payments made. What if any agreements did the golf club have with the 3rd party
Yeah that is sound advice, i will go and have a chat with them and see what they can offer.

I am jinxed with this golf club, this is my second year as a member and when i joined the first year it was the end of may so i missed out on 2 months then 3 weeks after i joined they did a special offer and knocked 200 quid off :?

My brother in law was on the committee (not captian at that time) and was the one who came up with the idea, maybe, just maybe he could have given me the nod when i was joining that this was about to happen.

Right, now i think of it he is going on the *word censored* list :lol:

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Post by I Hate Hleb »

Rolypoly is your man!! 8) He likes taking on the big boys and hates to see injustice!! Give him a PM and direct him to this thread. Perhaps, being the generous chap he undoubtedly is, he'd be able to give you appropriate advice. 8)

However, be prepared for a few gratuitous insults!! :lol: :lol: :wink:

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it all depends on the contract youve got with them of course, i wouldnt be able to tell you without having a look at it, but from what i can make out it seems as though theyve changed the terms of the contract by making it end earlier. if this is the case, amongst other things of course, then you are not liable to have to continue paying them for those months that have been deducted. although, the only problem that can arise is that those 200 members agreed to it, youd have to check the terms and conditions for any exemption clauses that would allow them to do that in such circumstances.

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Post by RaM »

I Hate Hleb wrote:Rolypoly is your man!! 8) He likes taking on the big boys and hates to see injustice!! Give him a PM and direct him to this thread. Perhaps, being the generous chap he undoubtedly is, he'd be able to give you appropriate advice. 8)

However, be prepared for a few gratuitous insults!! :lol: :lol: :wink:
Moronic dickhead. :wink:


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It is entirely dependant on what is written in your T's & C's of membership.
Nonetheless, personally I would cancel my membership immediately and stop the direct debit.

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