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100% agreed. In Oireland we have a certain middle class type of arsehole that gets involved in these type of things just to piss mommy and daddy off. They antagonise the cops, get slapped down for their trouble and then whine like bitches about it. If you don't want trouble don't go looking for trouble you retards.Bergkamp-Genius wrote:I think the guy was obviously not the full shilling....he was deliberately being a twat and trying to antagonise the police and as Flash was suggesting considering what was going on that day he was asking for trouble..
It always irritates me these people that latch on to these demos and get themselves right in the front line of areas where there is trouble, feeling like right heroes, then the minute they get hurt it's everyone elses fault..
If you want to go on a demo,go for it, if you want to get up front and give it some, go for it, i'm all for it..but don't play the victim afterwards when you get hurt...
He was walking away. He had done nothing wrong. What more to you expect him to do? The police werent charging. Again what did the guy do to "antagonise" the police?.....keep his hands in his pockets? not run?flash gunner wrote:If you antagonise the police when its a pressure situation youre running the risk of being 'moved' on whatever form that takes. If you want to have no trouble keep out of their way, this paper seller didnt think of it that way
when there is rioting going on elsewhere in the City and the police are on high alert if you see them walking forward (almost in formation) you move out of their way quick, unless of course you want to have a dig or act like a smart arse in which case youve got to expect something, of course you should be allowed to walk anywhere anytime but its not a perfect world and you have read situationsnorthbankbren wrote:He was walking away. He had done nothing wrong. What more to you expect him to do? The police werent charging. Again what did the guy do to "antagonise" the police?.....keep his hands in his pockets? not run?flash gunner wrote:If you antagonise the police when its a pressure situation youre running the risk of being 'moved' on whatever form that takes. If you want to have no trouble keep out of their way, this paper seller didnt think of it that way
And trust me if you've ever seen these guys in action youd know who are the ones who do the antagonising.
I'm sorry mate but that is a bit simplistic isn't it? All cops are bad, all protesters are innocent? Come on. For every bad cop there is a good cop and likewise with protesters. You can't just tar them all with one brush.northbankbren wrote:My problem is the fact that just being somewhere makes YOU a target. And i really dont buy into the whole, you should know the score when it comes to riot police.
They are trained in crowd control. They are trained that force is the last resort. Its their job to spot trouble makers. The fact that any trouble at any protest and those innocents who are hurt are told you shouldnt be there, or you should know not to get in their way, its rubbish....if you've never experienced them how do you know what to do? Also what if you are a bit mentally challenged, slow, deaf, whatever these people have to be taken into account.
If these coppers done their jobs properly incidents like this wouldnt happen. I suppose it was that woman who got slapped in the face by the coppers fault because her face wasa in the way of his hand.
Its not as if this guy was in a big crowd that they charged, he was singled out.
A cousin of mine was at a protest a few years back. Deep in a crowd almost 200 yards away from the police. A bunch of idiots obviously started trouble with the cops up where they were, but none of this was visable from where my cousin was. From behind the police rushed the crowd. Chaos as the crowd ran, my cousins girlfriend fell and was being trampled by the running crowd. My cousin grabbed he arm and wouldnt let go as he didnt want to lose her in the crush and knew she was in trouble, he couldnt see the rest of her body as there were so many people scrambling from the police.
The next thing he knows he wakes up in a corner with people surrounding him on the floor, blood pouring from a massive cut on his chin. He was out of it for a few minutes but when he a come around was told he's been whacked by truncheon. He then realised his girlfriend wasnt to be seen. After almost an hour looking they found each other. They were now penned in by the police and not able to leave. His girlfriend paniced to see his face still bleeding....she convinced him to walk over to a group of coppers by an ambulance to see if they could get some help and were told to "fuck off" another copper actually walked over and sang "i fought the law and the law won" and then told em to piss off.
Two people on a peaceful protest as far away as they could get, and yet they were subjected to this!!!!! So i dont buy into the stay away from them theory.
If the police handled the situations in a better manner things like this wouldnt happen. Riot Police are just THUGS WITH BADGES AND BATS!!!!!!!!!