JakeN13 wrote:I don't deny that other teams have been/are "finacially doped" as well but if you manage Sevilla and finsinh second behind Real Madrid in La Liga it doesn't mean you're a worse manager than whoever manages Real Madrid that month, does it?....
That's fair enough and no-one could disagree with that. Yet equally, we can't just ignore the achievements - both clubs and managers - of those that have had the resources and used them to good effect, just because we don't like them and it's convenient to. Heaven knows there are plenty of both that haven't spent their money well and
not enjoyed the success that Mourinho/Chelsea have had.
JakeN13 wrote:We are always between 4-7 favourites with the bookies. I would say that means in general people think we have a realistic chance of winning the CL every year even if we're not among the top favourites......
Well if you want to rely on the bookies betting patterns and opinions to help you form your own, that's up to you. Unfortunately, being between fourth and 7th favourites for a competition with the bookies means absolutely nothing in the grand scheme of things.
JakeN13 wrote:Wenger's still in the job because he's taken us to a top 4 position every year while speniding a fraction of clubs like Newcastle and Spurs. While doing this he has still kept us alive as a top club, and whatever anybody say, if you were going to bet on the next league champion outside of Chelsea and ManU I'm pretty sure even you would count us ahead of everyone Spurs, Newcastle & the likes......
I don't doubt that's why Wenger is still in the job - and in my opinion deservedly so. However there comes a time, when you're at a big club, where you have to deliver more than just 3rd or 4th place. Especially when in the meantime you take genuine opportunities to win silverware for granted.
As for your second point: How about Man City? The bookies, who you seem fond of listening to, have them 3rd favourites ahead of us. Even Liverpool have come closer to winning the title in the past 5 years than we have.
JakeN13 wrote:We don't know why J.M were sacked but I don't think the assumption that Roman got fed up after seeing us selling out 60 000 in a meaningless CL game against Rosenborg while Chelsea struggled to sell out 40 000 for most games as too far far fedged......
But earlier you claimed it was because Roman was unsatisfied with the image Chelsea had due to the 'brand of football' Mourinho was providing. You seemed certain then!! And do you really believe that a multi-billionaire like Abramhovic would be concerned about us selling out more tickets than them? Again, part of the media myth.
Now the only two people that know
for certain why Mourinho was sacked are the two people concerned. Yet those genuinely in the know about club matters - as opposed to the media or bookies - say it was for the reasons I outlined earlier.
Or did you mean a realistic chance of making it through the group stages every season - because that's more accurate.
