Szczesny - He is the One and Only

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[quote="mikeyb772001"]The second flappy makes a mistake Arsenal should put him in as number 1.

He not only had a good game last but he had something we haven’t had for a long time “presenceâ€

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[quote="Boomer"][quote="mikeyb772001"]The second flappy makes a mistake Arsenal should put him in as number 1.

He not only had a good game last but he had something we haven’t had for a long time “presenceâ€

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Any goalie who can punch the ball that far must be number 1 .

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because of my Polish connection i have probably followed chesney`s development more closely than the average gooner.

For those who have only seen him once or twice, totally understand being conservative in their judgement about him.

i would go the opposite extreme - i would do exactly as with cesc and get him to sign 8-10 year contract if possible. ( incidentally, i would do the same with jack and, if fully recovered, aaron) This boy is the real deal. Given a run of games he will rapidly establish himself as a world class goalkeeper.

It may be tough on flappy, given he has done little wrong in last few games, but , quite simply , chesney is a better goalkeeper by far and I would have no hesitation in making him our no. 1 goalkeeper. Sometimes in business it is necessary to be ruthless and Wenger can be on occasions.

For me, last night, the only surprise about his performance was the slight misjudgement early on when hecame rushing out of goal -everything else was predictable.

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rolypoly wrote:because of my Polish connection i have probably followed chesney`s development more closely than the average gooner.

For those who have only seen him once or twice, totally understand being conservative in their judgement about him.

i would go the opposite extreme - i would do exactly as with cesc and get him to sign 8-10 year contract if possible. ( incidentally, i would do the same with jack and, if fully recovered, aaron) This boy is the real deal. Given a run of games he will rapidly establish himself as a world class goalkeeper.

It may be tough on flappy, given he has done little wrong in last few games, but , quite simply , chesney is a better goalkeeper by far and I would have no hesitation in making him our no. 1 goalkeeper. Sometimes in business it is necessary to be ruthless and Wenger can be on occasions.

For me, last night, the only surprise about his performance was the slight misjudgement early on when hecame rushing out of goal -everything else was predictable.

remember -ROLY KNOWS FUCK ALL
Fixed that for you, old mate! :wink:

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DB10GOONER wrote: Let's not get too carried away with one good performance against a relatively weak Toon side in a mickey mouse cup a few days before they play one of their biggest games of the year.
i can't understand this. what difference does it make who we were facing? a brilliant save is a brilliant save, whether it was drogba that shot it or francis jeffers!! szczesny was very composed, made brilliant saves and looked very assured. that's all i need to know!

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brazilianGOONER wrote:
DB10GOONER wrote: Let's not get too carried away with one good performance against a relatively weak Toon side in a mickey mouse cup a few days before they play one of their biggest games of the year.
i can't understand this. what difference does it make who we were facing? a brilliant save is a brilliant save, whether it was drogba that shot it or francis jeffers!! szczesny was very composed, made brilliant saves and looked very assured. that's all i need to know!
So you would agree that a rush of blood that could have cost the game is, err....a rush of blood that could have cost us the game.....when the scores were 0-0 - regardless of the opposition (that just happened to be a Newcastle reserve striker)

Honestly, some balance please

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SteveO 35 wrote:
brazilianGOONER wrote:
DB10GOONER wrote: Let's not get too carried away with one good performance against a relatively weak Toon side in a mickey mouse cup a few days before they play one of their biggest games of the year.
i can't understand this. what difference does it make who we were facing? a brilliant save is a brilliant save, whether it was drogba that shot it or francis jeffers!! szczesny was very composed, made brilliant saves and looked very assured. that's all i need to know!
So you would agree that a rush of blood that could have cost the game is, err....a rush of blood that could have cost us the game.....when the scores were 0-0 - regardless of the opposition (that just happened to be a Newcastle reserve striker)

Honestly, some balance please
i don't think there was much he could've done there, steveo. it was one on one, the striker went past him. it was a mistake, but not a very big one imo.

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You can understand why we are so excited.After the last 3 years of the two clowns in goal it looks like we may have found a good un.Its early days yet but Sczcesny looks the real deal

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brazilianGOONER wrote:
DB10GOONER wrote: Let's not get too carried away with one good performance against a relatively weak Toon side in a mickey mouse cup a few days before they play one of their biggest games of the year.
i can't understand this. what difference does it make who we were facing? a brilliant save is a brilliant save, whether it was drogba that shot it or francis jeffers!! szczesny was very composed, made brilliant saves and looked very assured. that's all i need to know!
At it's most base level you are correct - a great save is a great save.

But that isn't all that is involved. The quality of the opposition is everything. Many players look great in games against weak oppo but look shite against the top sides when facing technically superior or fitter/faster players. There is also the inflated confidence level a player may have knowing he is not facing a top team. Also relevent is the ammount of pressure a top side will put you under.

That Toon side did not come at us and get into our box the way the chavs or manure will in a PL game. Shezny would have been punished by Drogba for example for that early mistake. Against a weak team you may get away with a couple of mistakes but against the best you will get punished almost every time.

I remember playing footy for my school at under 15's and being asked to sit on the bench for the under 17's. A bloke got injured and I was thrown on and I just couldn't believe the difference in pace and quality. I was fucking lost out there.

I'm not getting carried away by Shezny's talent yet because I have not seen him dominate his area when facing the best in the game. He may well do it, but he hasn't yet.

The quality of the opposition is very important in judging how good a player is.

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DB10GOONER wrote:
brazilianGOONER wrote:
DB10GOONER wrote: Let's not get too carried away with one good performance against a relatively weak Toon side in a mickey mouse cup a few days before they play one of their biggest games of the year.
i can't understand this. what difference does it make who we were facing? a brilliant save is a brilliant save, whether it was drogba that shot it or francis jeffers!! szczesny was very composed, made brilliant saves and looked very assured. that's all i need to know!
At it's most base level you are correct - a great save is a great save.

But that isn't all that is involved. The quality of the opposition is everything. Many players look great in games against weak oppo but look shite against the top sides when facing technically superior or fitter/faster players. There is also the inflated confidence level a player may have knowing he is not facing a top team. Also relevent is the ammount of pressure a top side will put you under.

That Toon side did not come at us and get into our box the way the chavs or manure will in a PL game. Shezny would have been punished by Drogba for example for that early mistake. Against a weak team you may get away with a couple of mistakes but against the best you will get punished almost every time.

I remember playing footy for my school at under 15's and being asked to sit on the bench for the under 17's. A bloke got injured and I was thrown on and I just couldn't believe the difference in pace and quality. I was fucking lost out there.

I'm not getting carried away by Shezny's talent yet because I have not seen him dominate his area when facing the best in the game. He may well do it, but he hasn't yet.

The quality of the opposition is very important in judging how good a player is.
totally agree on this, cant compare the pressure on the goalie in the game last nite, and a Man U or Chelski match, they are WAY more fysical in those games.. specially in the box.

when thats said, i still believe he could be a great keeper for us in the future, especially with the dominance he has showed in the box so far!

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2300laursen wrote:
DB10GOONER wrote:
brazilianGOONER wrote:
DB10GOONER wrote: Let's not get too carried away with one good performance against a relatively weak Toon side in a mickey mouse cup a few days before they play one of their biggest games of the year.
i can't understand this. what difference does it make who we were facing? a brilliant save is a brilliant save, whether it was drogba that shot it or francis jeffers!! szczesny was very composed, made brilliant saves and looked very assured. that's all i need to know!
At it's most base level you are correct - a great save is a great save.

But that isn't all that is involved. The quality of the opposition is everything. Many players look great in games against weak oppo but look shite against the top sides when facing technically superior or fitter/faster players. There is also the inflated confidence level a player may have knowing he is not facing a top team. Also relevent is the ammount of pressure a top side will put you under.

That Toon side did not come at us and get into our box the way the chavs or manure will in a PL game. Shezny would have been punished by Drogba for example for that early mistake. Against a weak team you may get away with a couple of mistakes but against the best you will get punished almost every time.

I remember playing footy for my school at under 15's and being asked to sit on the bench for the under 17's. A bloke got injured and I was thrown on and I just couldn't believe the difference in pace and quality. I was fucking lost out there.

I'm not getting carried away by Shezny's talent yet because I have not seen him dominate his area when facing the best in the game. He may well do it, but he hasn't yet.

The quality of the opposition is very important in judging how good a player is.
totally agree on this, cant compare the pressure on the goalie in the game last nite, and a Man U or Chelski match, they are WAY more fysical in those games.. specially in the box.

when thats said, i still believe he could be a great keeper for us in the future, especially with the dominance he has showed in the box so far!
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LDB wrote:
2300laursen wrote:
DB10GOONER wrote:
brazilianGOONER wrote:
DB10GOONER wrote: Let's not get too carried away with one good performance against a relatively weak Toon side in a mickey mouse cup a few days before they play one of their biggest games of the year.
i can't understand this. what difference does it make who we were facing? a brilliant save is a brilliant save, whether it was drogba that shot it or francis jeffers!! szczesny was very composed, made brilliant saves and looked very assured. that's all i need to know!
At it's most base level you are correct - a great save is a great save.

But that isn't all that is involved. The quality of the opposition is everything. Many players look great in games against weak oppo but look shite against the top sides when facing technically superior or fitter/faster players. There is also the inflated confidence level a player may have knowing he is not facing a top team. Also relevent is the ammount of pressure a top side will put you under.

That Toon side did not come at us and get into our box the way the chavs or manure will in a PL game. Shezny would have been punished by Drogba for example for that early mistake. Against a weak team you may get away with a couple of mistakes but against the best you will get punished almost every time.

I remember playing footy for my school at under 15's and being asked to sit on the bench for the under 17's. A bloke got injured and I was thrown on and I just couldn't believe the difference in pace and quality. I was fucking lost out there.

I'm not getting carried away by Shezny's talent yet because I have not seen him dominate his area when facing the best in the game. He may well do it, but he hasn't yet.

The quality of the opposition is very important in judging how good a player is.
totally agree on this, cant compare the pressure on the goalie in the game last nite, and a Man U or Chelski match, they are WAY more fysical in those games.. specially in the box.

when thats said, i still believe he could be a great keeper for us in the future, especially with the dominance he has showed in the box so far!
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Nice to see your great British xenophobia is alive and well!! :lol: :wink:

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