Mr Wenger at todays press conference

[USMartin]

Nobody likes you marty you are longwinded boring repetitive sad deluded man.

Many don't like me - maybe even most. But it takes a lot of balls to speak for everyone. Hopefully since that in fact is wrong you will have the balls to acknowledge it. Somehow I doubt that, but I hope so.

As for being deluded I think a lot of you are choosing to delude youselves because that's easier than actually thinking about what might be happening or caring about what might be happening, and its easier than doing anything about what might be happening.

I may be right or wrong. But at least I care enoough to actually think about it and to seek evidence for what might be happaning, which is more than all of you who hate me so ... ...even care enough to do. Either that or you can't handle what you have found out which is hardly surprising.

I'll say it again - name one independently varified instance - any of you here - where the Manager has said I will not use the money offered him by the Board. Since you are so certain that is the case you must have at least one piece of evidence over the last six years between all of you.

I'll wait but I know what to expect already. But you are lying to yourselves if you say its for any ohter reason that you don;'t care enough about to truth to look or have l;ooked and can't admit you have no evidence to back your claims or don't care enough to think about that.

[Rugby Gooner]

Well Cesc has no desire, no mental strength and no will to win after opting out of playing against Blackburn, mug.

He has already transfered his mental strength to Barcelona. The rest will follow as soon as possible after the season ends!!!

[USMartin]

talk of grade 1 wankers and one appears.........Hi Martin

Haha still haven't answered and can't acknownedge that you can't - kind of pussy behavior on your part innit?

[Rugby Gooner]

Nobody likes you marty you are longwinded boring repetitive sad deluded man.

Many don't like me - maybe even most.

I like you Martin. I might not always agree with you,but I like you,because you care about our club enough to raise issues and concerns that sometimes take a while to read,but need to be read.

[USMartin]

Nobody likes you marty you are longwinded boring repetitive sad deluded man.

Many don't like me - maybe even most.

I like you Martin. I might not always agree with you,but I like you,because you care about our club enough to raise issues and concerns that sometimes take a while to read,but need to be read.

Cheers Rugby

[Hatfield Red]

This is how i used to view wenger, but as the season unfolds i am strating to think he is defending the undefendable. Success is winning a trophy, not any more not any less. why o why bring up the average age argument; who cares if they are 20,25,27 or 30. Just f*cking show how we are progressing. Since moving to the Grove this team has not improved. End of.

Why your man USMartin goes on about the board, is simply nothing to do with this. Wenger has lost it...

[Hatfield Red]

This is how i used to view wenger, but as the season unfolds i am strating to think he is defending the undefendable. Success is winning a trophy, not any more not any less. why o why bring up the average age argument; who cares if they are 20,25,27 or 30. Just f*cking show how we are progressing. Since moving to the Grove this team has not improved. End of.

Why your man USMartin goes on about the board, is simply nothing to do with this. Wenger has lost it...

[USMartin]

This is how i used to view wenger, but as the season unfolds i am strating to think he is defending the undefendable. Success is winning a trophy, not any more not any less. why o why bring up the average age argument; who cares if they are 20,25,27 or 30. Just f*cking show how we are progressing. Since moving to the Grove this team has not improved. End of.

Why your man USMartin goes on about the board, is simply nothing to do with this. Wenger has lost it...

If you call me their man there will be a riot

As for your point - that is one possibility. There is another possibility which is that our policies have been driven by policies set by an overly cautious Board in response to its decisions to over borrow as part of this project. Another is policies set by a Board eager to cash in with huge personal profits.

We just don't know do we? But we do know this no one including you so far has produced one piece of real evidence to your view, whereas iHvae. That doesn't prove my theories correct or rule out anyone else's

It just raises the issue of making sure we advocate the right changes for the right reasons. History in football and every apsect of life teaches us to be careful of those who advocate simple conclusions or solutions to complex problems, and it scares me that so many here just opt for the easy way out. Where will they be if the easy way out proves to be the wrong way?

[OneBardGooner]

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard- ... -wenger.do

"Arsene Wenger today insisted his Arsenal team will have enjoyed a successful season even if they end the campaign without a trophy."

Is this C U N T for real!!!?????...Either the original AW has been hi-jacked/abducted/stolen by aliens or he really has had a breakdown of some sort....it's as if the Wenger who first came to Arsenal with a real attitude and appetite for winning ganes and winning trophies has disappeared....no wonder KrustyCuntFergie is so happy these days....

FER FECCKSSAAAAAAAKKE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[OneBardGooner]

Arsene Wenger has promised Arsenal fans they will be rewarded if they keep faith in their young talented squad.

How many times have we been told this?! We're always sold a promise of a bright future just down the line, when does this future actually arrive?!

Dec 22nd 2012.

[OneBardGooner]

In this snippet from his press interview today it sounds like he has already given up and handed the prem title to mancsum...he says 3 times that if mancscum win the prem you have to accept it and say congratulations to them etc etc

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/13015886.stm


I so want him to do well and to have the respect and love from the Arsenal supporter's he once had, but how on earth can we respect him and what he is doing when he seems ignorant of the desperation for a trophy that is now rife amongst the majority of Gooners....I just don't get it....how can he not know how we feel!!????

[DUFFMAN]

That is exactly my problem obg

He's beyond the point of understanding what we think/want

I hate to give the man that brought us so much joy the stick he's about to get but if that's the only way to show him how we really feel than so be it.

Fuck congratulating man u, fuck 2nd is ok
WE ARE THE ARSENAL. 2nd IS NOWHERE.

He genuinely thinks we should be happy where we are. Bollocks am I happy and I'm gonna make it known Sunday week, just as we had to make it known to eboue

You're losing the plot arsene

[1989]

USMartin,

Explain to me how Wenger going senile has got ANYTHING to do with the board.

Stop hijacking every thread with your inane drivel you fucking prick.

[g88ner]

Wenger's definition of success is very worrying; in fact, I'd say his entire press conference today was worrying!

Where's the war cry? where's the demand for success? the win at all costs attitude? - instead, I'm left feeling depressed as it seems even our manager is getting his excuses in early

His comments are just not motivating at all - they say loser to me, and if that's how he prepares his players for the 8 cup finals that are coming up, then fuck me - all really is lost

[kgw129]

The reason Wenger got so upset is because he knows that what he is hearing is the truth and he hates to hear it at all. No-one inside the club is allowed to question or criticise so when someone else does, he loses it totally! This man is so out of his depth but until he takes his head out of his arse he will continue doing what he's done for years.....he can't see it!!

Pot kettle and black TeeCee as this applies to you.

notice how you have avoided me since being challanged to provide just one piece of independent and varifiable evidence supporting your beliefs that its all down to the manager on his iown refusing to spend money and ignoring the Board' s efforts to make him spend more.

You are the one who hates hearing the truth which is you have no evudence whatsoever supporting your convictiones and and can''t find one in six years and don't have it in you to admit that little. Because if you did you might have to admit you might be wrong and you might have to consider that other people at the club bear some most or even nearly all the repsonsibility for these policies which you don't want to believe is possible let alone true.

No you are the one you are writing about here because you don't have the balls to try and find proof for what you believe because you know its not there and you definitely don't have the balls to acknowledge that reality, let alone the possibility that implies.

I will challenge you US Martin. I simply do not accept the premise of your arguement regarding the board. You may or may not be right about the board restricting the amount of money that Wenger has to spend. However the premise of your arguement is based upon the fact that you presume Wenger would be successfull if he had more money to spend which is what I do not accept. In my opinion Wenger is not successful due to his shortcomings as a manager not due to how much he does or does not spend. Our performance this season proves this. In my opinion with the players we have and the current level of expenditure we should have won both the Carling Cup and the League this season but the fact that we will not is solely down to Wenger and his shortcomings as a manager. Is it down to lack of expenditure that we cannot beat a journeyman Birmingham City side in a Cup Final or that Wenger does not tell his centre back to "if in doubt kick it out" in the last minute of a Cup Final? Is it down to lack of expenditure that we have gone 3 League games without a win to poor sides such as Sunderland, West Brom and Blackburn when virtually in pole position to win the League? I could go on but I am sure that you get the picture.