Tony Adams praises Danny Fiszman

Babu · Post by **Babu** » Mon Jul 25, 2011 8:10 pm

mcdowell42 wrote:Couldnt you 2 get a room

I quite like the look of this room...
Looks so comfortable, no hard edges. Loverly!

Right, I'm off, before I'm committed.

mcdowell42 · Post by **mcdowell42** » Mon Jul 25, 2011 8:16 pm

Babu wrote:
mcdowell42 wrote:Couldnt you 2 get a room
I quite like the look of this room...
Looks so comfortable, no hard edges. Loverly!

Right, I'm off, before I'm committed.

Your in luck marty happens to have 1 of those

Post by **HashKads** » Mon Jul 25, 2011 8:19 pm

mcdowell42 wrote:
Babu wrote:
mcdowell42 wrote:Couldnt you 2 get a room
I quite like the look of this room...
Looks so comfortable, no hard edges. Loverly!

Right, I'm off, before I'm committed.

Your in luck marty happens to have 1 of those

There is no computer, this photo must have been taken when he was being naughty and not taking his medication.

USMartin · Post by **USMartin** » Mon Jul 25, 2011 8:29 pm

Babu wrote: http://www.football-marketing.com/2010/ ... ts-of-56m/

The sale of 362 apartments at Highbury Square and the social housing at Queensland Road, developments that were part of the move to the Emirates, generated revenues of Â£156.9m and allowed Arsenal to repay in full the Â£129.6m in bank loans taken to fund the construction. The property sales helped increase turnover to a record Â£379.9m from Â£313.3m.

And this has offset the negative impact it had on the football team and the financial suppot it received how?

Babu wrote:We made money on it. Paid off in full. Good bit of business.
Exactly - not some failure or mistake or something wee would have done differently in hindsight. A concious choice made for clear reasons.

Now if we were simply Arsenal Inc and we were all sharehiolders or even company employess whose jobs and welfare rested on this decision we might have reason to support it. But lasy I cheacked were are Arsenal Supporters and have no vested interest in just how much more money the company makes if it doesn't go back into the team.

Babu wrote:Can't pay off the Stadium loan quicker, as there will be huge penalties for that.
Again I have noted this already

Babu wrote:Can't invest in the football team as Wenger doesn't want to spend the money on experience, as he has his own agenda.
Even if we suppose this is correct why wasn't this the case before 2005 and if the Board did not unanimously indtsruct or or encourage Mr., Wenger in this course why haven;t they said or done something in over five years?

This just doesn't pass the logic test really.

Babu wrote:That is all I have to say at the moment. Have to get ready to go to Belgium. it's a 6AM start for us tomorrow.
And I still have to find my knuckle-duster.
:armandtraore:

Take it easy mate. Will catch you later.

Say hi to the Belgians for me then

oh and not with the knuckle-duster. That's your own message or as you say agenda

stg · Post by **stg** » Mon Jul 25, 2011 9:56 pm

Sutch wrote:
stg wrote:Danny Fizsman he used to stand on the clock-end and supported Arsenal all his life.
Don't know where you got that from, thought everyone knew he was a y**

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituar ... szman.html

http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/obituar ... 6752600.jp

but it's ok Im told I shouldnt belive everything I read so they are probably wrong.

USMartin · Post by **USMartin** » Mon Jul 25, 2011 10:41 pm

Actually I would say this was far more compelling stuff fron the articles

Fiszman went on to make his fortune in the Hatton Garden diamond business, building up the Star Diamonds Group which trades in rough diamonds. He also invested in property and new technology. His interests included a Â£50 million holding in the hand-held organiser company Psion (of which he was an non-executive director) and directorships of the London Roundhouse recording studios and the curiously named Gungho Trading. Described as â€œextremely quiet and extremely pleasantâ€

Herd · Post by **Herd** » Mon Jul 25, 2011 11:05 pm

STG u are free to believe anything you like its your choice .

I think sutch was being anti Semitic saying he was a one of the swamp dwellers.

I can also find u articles that says kate hoey was a lifelong fan and not at all the manipulating band wagon jumping whore that many of us always believed she is.

Newsapers print the slush they are fed but I stand by what I said and that he was never a fan just a very lucky man who got involved when dein couldn't afford to finance the takeover of the club himself because of his financial problems elsewhere .

As for the unsustainability of multi ownership that's pure hogwash as evidenced by Arsenals current financial health and position.

As for those who dreamily think that old Danny Boy did what he did for the good of the Arsenal then it is your right to be as deluded as u want just don't ask me to swallow it .

Post by **QuartzGooner** » Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:36 am

Carlos Slim could put Â£250M into the club, but Wenger would still not sign anyone because it might impede the youngsters' progress.

Deise Gooner · Post by **Deise Gooner** » Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:43 am

[quote="USMartin"]Actually I would say this was far more compelling stuff fron the articles

Fiszman went on to make his fortune in the Hatton Garden diamond business, building up the Star Diamonds Group which trades in rough diamonds. He also invested in property and new technology. His interests included a Â£50 million holding in the hand-held organiser company Psion (of which he was an non-executive director) and directorships of the London Roundhouse recording studios and the curiously named Gungho Trading. Described as â€œextremely quiet and extremely pleasantâ€

USMartin · Post by **USMartin** » Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:49 am

QuartzGooner wrote:Carlos Slim could put Â£250M into the club, but Wenger would still not sign anyone because it might impede the youngsters' progress.

And your definite proof is is are simply a blind loyalist who openly lies to protect Mr. Fiszman? Or is it as I say you didn't need definite proof because you never cared about the truth except when you didn't like it?

You are coming off as nothing more than a phony Quartz period. You have bever defended the Board because it was the tight thing to do but the only thing you as a proper loyal gooner was able to do in your mind,.

If you were William Wallace the line would read "They may take our wives , but they are the Board and can take anything they want from us..."

Post by **QuartzGooner** » Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:57 am

USMartin

No one on here buys your claims to be the "Martyr of Arsenal."

You claim to be hideously concerned by Arsenal's governance, but in seven years of Forum postings on four Forums all you have actually done about it is post a few times for arsenalfcnotplc, written a couple of letters to the club, and started an online petition which you hardly publicised.

If you were really as concerned as you claim to be, you would have taken action to start an online campaign.

You have no excuse for not having done so.
Not time (you spend ages on here every day).
Not money (youtube, facebook, twitter, cost nothing).
Not location (it is the world wide web).

No excuse.

USMartin · Post by **USMartin** » Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:57 am

[quote="Deise Gooner"][quote="USMartin"]Actually I would say this was far more compelling stuff fron the articles

Fiszman went on to make his fortune in the Hatton Garden diamond business, building up the Star Diamonds Group which trades in rough diamonds. He also invested in property and new technology. His interests included a Â£50 million holding in the hand-held organiser company Psion (of which he was an non-executive director) and directorships of the London Roundhouse recording studios and the curiously named Gungho Trading. Described as â€œextremely quiet and extremely pleasantâ€

Post by **QuartzGooner** » Tue Jul 26, 2011 1:00 am

USMartin

No one on here buys your claims to be the "Martyr of Arsenal."

You claim to be hideously concerned by Arsenal's governance, but in seven years of Forum postings on four Forums all you have actually done about it is post a few times for arsenalfcnotplc, written a couple of letters to the club, and started an online petition which you hardly publicised.

If you were really as concerned as you claim to be, you would have taken action to start an online campaign.

You have no excuse for not having done so.
Not time (you spend ages on here every day).
Not money (youtube, facebook, twitter, cost nothing).
Not location (it is the world wide web).

No excuse.

USMartin · Post by **USMartin** » Tue Jul 26, 2011 1:16 am

QuartzGooner wrote:USMartin

No one on here buys your claims to be the "Martyr of Arsenal."

You claim to be hideously concerned by Arsenal's governance, but in seven years of Forum postings on four Forums all you have actually done about it is post a few times for arsenalfcnotplc, written a couple of letters to the club, and started an online petition which you hardly publicised.

If you were really as concerned as you claim to be, you would have taken action to start an online campaign.

You have no excuse for not having done so.
Not time (you spend ages on here every day).
Not money (youtube, facebook, twitter, cost nothing).
Not location (it is the world wide web).

No excuse.

Quartz you're a fake, frankly a phony more interested in some outdated sort of loyalty to all things Arsenal including the Board particulalrly are representatives of some different era in football and life, and that is more important to you than the truth and the club iotself.

You would rather lie and let the Board lie about and even destroy Arsenal and pretend you are some better person for upholding that outdated literary or poetic notion of loyalty no matter the cost when all it really makes you is part of the problem rather than any solution.

Supporters like you will be partially at fault if the dividends are approved because you were too busy trying to pretend it was still the days of herbert Chapamn at Arsenal. What you insist Arsenal still stands for is more important yto you than Arsenal itself and you would happily sacrificee Arsenal to retain what you want to believe it is in your imagination.

You'll show up when it's too late and doesn't matter pretending to be shocked and outraged and expecting full credit for being there just the same. Good luck with that...hope you can keep a straight face then...

Iwonder if Herbert Chapman would respect your choices and your conduct somehow, or at the very least would question whether you were doing the right thing.

USMartin · Post by **USMartin** » Tue Jul 26, 2011 1:24 am

And one last thing you yourself said one person alone will accomplish nothing trying to discourage me from expressing my views from day one. You are nothiing than a complete fake who will say anything to defend the Board and then say anything as you already have to discredit anyone who will not listen to your willful lies in the Board's defence.

You do not neeed proof to trust the Board because you are some blind loyalist incapable of objectivity to whom your traditional stiff-upper-lip loyalty is more important than any reality about Arsenal as far as I can see. And it's shame because that only hurts the club you swear you love and no one else.

Would you let actually someone you love suffer to protect your perosonal faith in your traditional beliefs and for no other reason?

And don't ever pretend you're hideously concerned about anything but preserving the mythology of what Arsenal is. You would I fear happily sacrifice Arsenal itself without hesitation to preserve that myth about the Club. If anything you may already have done that or made it more likely. I hope you'll be as dedicated to your all-important traditional honour to take responsibility if you are proven wrong ultimately

Tony Adams praises Danny Fiszman

danny the wonder kid