Press Conference tomorrow 0900 hrs

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Eboue-Why?
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Post by Eboue-Why? »

40 years of following this club. It's not possible to want us to lose games but now I'm at that point. I want Newcastle to fucking thump us tomorrow and draw 0-0 with Udinese so that when Liverpool take the lead next Saturday the ground turns against the fool.
I've had enough of being treated like a fucking idiot.
As I said, it has to stop now :banghead:

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richpye wrote:
Jumpers For Goalposts wrote:
richpye wrote: Liverpool had a poor season rescued by the performance of Luis Suarez in the second half of the season, but they still failed.

Also Dalgleish got the benefit of new manager syndrome, so if you give Wenger the same new manager syndrome benefit then we would have been champions as well.

Both of my arguments above are silly, but just the same as yours. You can manipulate stats which ever way you want to, to make a case for your argument but one stat that doesn't lie is the Premier League Table.

Back to the point of the conversation, the BBC website has done some very neat editing of the press conference to suit their own ends. You have to watch Wenger's expressions to get the full meaning behind his words
:coffeespit:

I hope you're joking mate!

This deceitful old man is paid £7million a year to manage Arsenal FC but we "have to watch his expressions to get the full meaning behind his words".

His mis-management of our club is appalling - the Fabregas saga overshadows our entire off season but we still lose our Captain and best player the day before the season starts, for the same money we were offered 15 months ago.

The Nasri situation is a joke as was Flamini's departure.

Our collapse last season was spectacular, even by our all too familiar standards. Our defending is a total joke but Wenger keeps saying everything is alright, and he keeps buying more tippy-tappy lightweight forwards rather than some decent defenders.

I could go on - but all you say is "we need to to look at his expression". We need to see his back as he leaves us and allows a new man to restore our pride.
I don't disagree with any of what you say. Although I feel more of it is to do with a weak chief executive than it is a poor manager.

All I am saying is that words alone on the BBC website didn't tell the whole picture. For example when I saw him say "I expect no players to leave", you also see the curved smile on his face which to me says that he is lying through his teeth and that he knows players will leave
You have just contradicted your original post on when Wenger should go, with the term"new manager syndrome" . Surely if we lost lets say 5 of our opening 6 games and Wenger was sacked. Surely wa too would reap the reward of "new manager syndrome".
It would also give a new manager a "free" no pressure season to analyse his squad and decide exactly what he wants for next season.
As for statistics, Dalglish can only be judged on the 18 league games of which he took charge earning 33 points from these games 1.833 points per game. Wenger can be judged on not just the disastrous final 11 but on all 38 games in which he earned 68 points, that's 1.78 points per game.
I know the difference is minimal, I would like to add that I believe that Liverpool deliberately made sure they would not be playing Europa lge football next season thus lowering Dalglish's score, to ensure they can focus on a top 4 finish this season.
Arsenal on the other hand were "trying" to ensure a top 3 finish which would avoid having to play in a clge qualifying round.

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Post by terry henry »

Eboue-Why? wrote:40 years of following this club. It's not possible to want us to lose games but now I'm at that point. I want Newcastle to fucking thump us tomorrow and draw 0-0 with Udinese so that when Liverpool take the lead next Saturday the ground turns against the fool.
I've had enough of being treated like a fucking idiot.
As I said, it has to stop now :banghead:
Couldn't imagine wanting us to lose :?

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Post by Bradywasking »

terry henry wrote:
Eboue-Why? wrote:40 years of following this club. It's not possible to want us to lose games but now I'm at that point. I want Newcastle to fucking thump us tomorrow and draw 0-0 with Udinese so that when Liverpool take the lead next Saturday the ground turns against the fool.
I've had enough of being treated like a fucking idiot.
As I said, it has to stop now :banghead:
Couldn't imagine wanting us to lose :?
I could never want Arsenal to lose, But I can understand the reasons why people may feel that way.

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kiwomya wrote:
Jumpers For Goalposts wrote:Look at these direct quotes from his press conference, taken from the BBC website.

"Cesc is not on strike. Cesc is not injured, he's not match fit. I don't want to go any deeper than that," he added.

"Nasri went for the national team, he was sick, and he has not completely recovered yet. There are no other aspects why he is not in the squad.

"I believe the best for us, one day before the Championship to start, is not to focus on possible transfers."


He treats us fans with complete and utter contempt. He might feel that he is being smart with the journalist concerned but it is us lot that want to hear the truth and the journalist is only asking what we all want to ask.

I pray that this foolish man is forced to go this season because it is so sad to see the man that gave us the Invincibles turning into this joke figure.
I think sometimes it's better to see/hear him actually say it than to pick up on selective quotes online. Don't get me wrong some of what he's been coming out with is crazy regardless but the media do like to make Wenger appear a certain way. IMO this is why he acts like he does with the journo's.
He might treat journalists with contempt but in reality he is treating us with complete and utter contempt as we are the ones that want & need the answers. The journalist is only asking the questions that we all want answers to.

Wenger is cocooned from reality, to the extent that only a select few are allowed anywhere near him and his precious little babies. Being smart with journos would be fine if the trophies were rolling in - but they're not so we have every right to expect answers to these questions.

And the media portray Wenger in a certain way because he makes it so easy for them to do this. Everyone can see the faults in his plan (except him and a few acolytes) but still he offers up these lame excuses.

I'm afraid he deserves any stick he gets - and I hope he gets some enormous stick in the forthcoming matches.

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Post by MEDINABOY »

i would except anything now short of relegation to get rid of this self serving c..t :evil: :evil:

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Post by JakeN13 »

Bradywasking wrote:
terry henry wrote:
Eboue-Why? wrote:40 years of following this club. It's not possible to want us to lose games but now I'm at that point. I want Newcastle to fucking thump us tomorrow and draw 0-0 with Udinese so that when Liverpool take the lead next Saturday the ground turns against the fool.
I've had enough of being treated like a fucking idiot.
As I said, it has to stop now :banghead:
Couldn't imagine wanting us to lose :?
I could never want Arsenal to lose, But I can understand the reasons why people may feel that way.
It has to get worse before it get better I'm afarid. The worst that could happen for us is probably that we are in with a chance of titles in March and finish fourth again. The 00/01 season made Wenger realise something had to be done, hopefully he will get one of those moments again.

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Post by Irish Gooner »

Bradywasking wrote:
terry henry wrote:
Eboue-Why? wrote:40 years of following this club. It's not possible to want us to lose games but now I'm at that point. I want Newcastle to fucking thump us tomorrow and draw 0-0 with Udinese so that when Liverpool take the lead next Saturday the ground turns against the fool.
I've had enough of being treated like a fucking idiot.
As I said, it has to stop now :banghead:
Couldn't imagine wanting us to lose :?
I could never want Arsenal to lose, But I can understand the reasons why people may feel that way.
It's quite sad, but I have the feeling of wanting us to lose sometimes as well. Mostly meaningless games that will stop Wenger rambling afterwards about his great young team. It's in the hope we benefit in the future. :cry:

If I was in the ground at a game though it would be different. As for tomorrow I'm apathetic. Part of me really feels sorry for players like Van Persie, Sagna etc being put through the same crap each year. And you want your club to do well. But really, it hasnt been "our" club for several years now.

If we lost our first 3 games and Wenger left I would be happy. The most we can hope for is 4th and it holds no appeal to me.

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Jumpers For Goalposts wrote:
kiwomya wrote:
Jumpers For Goalposts wrote:Look at these direct quotes from his press conference, taken from the BBC website.

"Cesc is not on strike. Cesc is not injured, he's not match fit. I don't want to go any deeper than that," he added.

"Nasri went for the national team, he was sick, and he has not completely recovered yet. There are no other aspects why he is not in the squad.

"I believe the best for us, one day before the Championship to start, is not to focus on possible transfers."


He treats us fans with complete and utter contempt. He might feel that he is being smart with the journalist concerned but it is us lot that want to hear the truth and the journalist is only asking what we all want to ask.

I pray that this foolish man is forced to go this season because it is so sad to see the man that gave us the Invincibles turning into this joke figure.
I think sometimes it's better to see/hear him actually say it than to pick up on selective quotes online. Don't get me wrong some of what he's been coming out with is crazy regardless but the media do like to make Wenger appear a certain way. IMO this is why he acts like he does with the journo's.
He might treat journalists with contempt but in reality he is treating us with complete and utter contempt as we are the ones that want & need the answers. The journalist is only asking the questions that we all want answers to.

Wenger is cocooned from reality, to the extent that only a select few are allowed anywhere near him and his precious little babies. Being smart with journos would be fine if the trophies were rolling in - but they're not so we have every right to expect answers to these questions.

And the media portray Wenger in a certain way because he makes it so easy for them to do this. Everyone can see the faults in his plan (except him and a few acolytes) but still he offers up these lame excuses.

I'm afraid he deserves any stick he gets - and I hope he gets some enormous stick in the forthcoming matches.
It is these journalists who will bring Wenger down, his pathetic image will be backpage news following every defeat this season, they will destroy him and he will indeed deserve every last scything remark aimed his way.
This man will desreve no sympathy from anyone in football let alone Arsenal. I am going to revel in each and every article and in the words of Elvis Costello "when they finally put her (him) in the ground they'll stand there laughing and tramp the dirt down"

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Post by OneBardGooner »

This Summer's transfer window was/is the Last Chance Saloon for Wenger, and he just seems to have thumbed his nose at it and us.

I really REALLY hoped he would take the opportunity to make the necessary and vital changes needed to keep us in with a chance of winning the prem and other trophies, but my 'hope' has just turned to sadness and anger; sadness for what is happening / being done to my beloved Arsenal AND because the man who brought us success and such amazing times seems to be spiralling into some kind of delusional break down - any other person in cahrge of such a high earning financial institution would have been removed from his post and probably 'sectioned' by now.

They say "Insanity Comes To The Well Structured Mind", well I think Arsene is a one such case, how can someone who is an intellectual keep ignoring the facts of what is all about them and still think they are right when everyone else is saying different...??

Angry, because the board are not only using him to achieve more and more wealth - allowing him to take all the flak and shyte, whilst surely knowing he is not right in the head - AND for shitting all over us - the fans who spend our hard earned dosh to pay players huge salaries, 90% of whom do not deserve to wear the Red & White of The Arsenal...

Last Chance Saloon, The Piano Player Has Stopped Playing And The Doors are Swinging But Don't Hold Your Breath...


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We're fucked :banghead: This man is an utter c**t and deserves all the stick he gets. Please tell me we plan to give him such a hard time when Liverpool come. Because I've never despised a man so badly.

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goonersid wrote: It is these journalists who will bring Wenger down, his pathetic image will be backpage news following every defeat this season, they will destroy him and he will indeed deserve every last scything remark aimed his way.

Spot on Sid. Where once every journalist would lap up his every word and where criticising Wenger in the press was seen as sacrilege, now he is the subject of ridicule on the back pages. No more so than this scathing article in today's Sun.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sp ... xodus.html

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You know what? Wenger reminds me of that strange kid who sits on his own in a corner of the playground eating glue. Sheltered from reallity, never makes sense to anyone and is convinced he is 'special'. :banghead:

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Post by Jumpers For Goalposts »

rodders999 wrote:
goonersid wrote: It is these journalists who will bring Wenger down, his pathetic image will be backpage news following every defeat this season, they will destroy him and he will indeed deserve every last scything remark aimed his way.

Spot on Sid. Where once every journalist would lap up his every word and where criticising Wenger in the press was seen as sacrilege, now he is the subject of ridicule on the back pages. No more so than this scathing article in today's Sun.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sp ... xodus.html
That is a quality article. And the worst thing about it is - I should be trying to defend the Arsenal manager, but I find myself agreeing with every word!

What Wenger is doing defies belief and it defies explanation.

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This is going to be a long, painful season. One of the few pleasures in my life will become an absolute train wreck and just leave me bitter, hungover and sad after each game.

fuck off wenger

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