As gooners, we go through this hell every summer it seems. No other club have their best players tarted around the tabloids as we do. First it was Anelka, then it was Vieira (for about 3 years) and now its Thierry. I agree totally with many of peoples comments surrounding the speculation. What we have to hope and pray is that it remains merely that. But deep down, im resigned to losing thierry, much as it pains me to say so. Thierry is a very articulate, intelligent guy, he knows that theres millions of gooners desperate to hear him say 'Im staying'...but yet he refuces to do it. Agents play a huge role in creating media speculation (most of which is utter fabrications). They tout their players about in order to create interest, resulting in bidding wars and ultimately a huge fee in their back pockets. But as captain of our club, you would like to think that he would love and respect the fans enough to come out and put or minds at rest.
Ultimately, all the above leads me to believe that Thierry will go. He loves the club, and Im not doubting that, but perhaps we've become a victim of our own success. Thierry is the one of the last few members of our 'invincibles'. He's watched as our best players have left for pastures new, Wiltord, Vieira, Pires, Sol, Cashley, Lauren. If the truth be told, those players havent been replaced. We have some fantastic young players coming through and as formindable a team we could potentially have, its all potential at the moment. Thierry will be 30 this year and in todays climate at the emerites, who says even HE will get more than a rolling contract?? He needs to think about his career, his ambitions in life. He can go to Spain or Italy and have another 4 years of being Thierry Henry, win things and be happy. Sometimes you have to respect our players decision to experience new things. Its the same with Paddy, he left us but I don't think theres a gooner alive that doesnt believe that in his heart, Vieira will always be ours. Its the same with Thierry. He has given us the best years of his life and we have all been lucky enough to watch him week in week out. All of us have been proud to have Thierry in our team and would dearly like him to stay. But if he doesn't, lets not get to disheartened and certainly not turn on Thierry, because he has been uterly amazing for us. He has won countless games on his own and brought Arsenal to a new level. I am in no doubt that one of the reasons we are in a brand spanking new stadium and are linked with top top players is because of thierry and his genius.
Lets all pray that our captain stays with us. It will be a truely sad day if he goes. But lets at least be thanfull that he was OURS.
The final word on the Thierry Henry debate...
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we_are_the_arsenal
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Probably the best post ive read on this subject. You make valid points. As a footballer you have limited years in a career, Henry is 30 and our team is young and wont reach its potential for at least another 2 years. Henry has given so much to this club, its time for him to make a decision thats best for him and its time for us to accept this and wish him well if he chooses to move on.
Lets hope all gooners can show some class if henry does move on, and thank him for everything he has given this wonderful club.
Lets hope all gooners can show some class if henry does move on, and thank him for everything he has given this wonderful club.
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Goonerk,
No offence mate, but I am sick and tired of hearing people talking about whether or not Thierry Henry is going to leave Arsenal. Here are some facts:
1) We don't know if he will leave, and until we hear anything official, we won't know.
2) There are 5,482 threads on here dedicating themselves to whether or not people think he is going to leave or not. Is one not enough? They all say the same bloody things. "I think he's going to go," "well I think he's going to stay," "he's our captain - he should be acting like one," "he's not leaving, Arsene promised he wouldn't," and that's about it. Over and over and over again.
3) Thierry Henry is not a relative of mine, nor is he a friend. Therefore, if he should leave my football club, although we will be losing a good player, I'm pretty sure I'll get over it. I supported Arsenal before Thierry Henry and I will support them after.
Sorry to rant at you like this. It is nothing personal, it's just that your 'Henry thread' just happened to be at the top of the list upon me writing this. I'm not criticising your point of view, in fact, I'm encouraging you to express it, but can we please talk about something else? This is starting to get like the Ashley Cole thing and I really am starting to not give a fuck.
Coming on this bloody forum was the only way I could break the boredom of my working day, but coming on here and seeing new threads every 10 minutes along the lines of "Fan's View: Theirry Henry" and "Do you think Thierry will stay" etc, etc, etc only makes my boredom even more excruciating.
No offence mate, but I am sick and tired of hearing people talking about whether or not Thierry Henry is going to leave Arsenal. Here are some facts:
1) We don't know if he will leave, and until we hear anything official, we won't know.
2) There are 5,482 threads on here dedicating themselves to whether or not people think he is going to leave or not. Is one not enough? They all say the same bloody things. "I think he's going to go," "well I think he's going to stay," "he's our captain - he should be acting like one," "he's not leaving, Arsene promised he wouldn't," and that's about it. Over and over and over again.
3) Thierry Henry is not a relative of mine, nor is he a friend. Therefore, if he should leave my football club, although we will be losing a good player, I'm pretty sure I'll get over it. I supported Arsenal before Thierry Henry and I will support them after.
Sorry to rant at you like this. It is nothing personal, it's just that your 'Henry thread' just happened to be at the top of the list upon me writing this. I'm not criticising your point of view, in fact, I'm encouraging you to express it, but can we please talk about something else? This is starting to get like the Ashley Cole thing and I really am starting to not give a fuck.
Coming on this bloody forum was the only way I could break the boredom of my working day, but coming on here and seeing new threads every 10 minutes along the lines of "Fan's View: Theirry Henry" and "Do you think Thierry will stay" etc, etc, etc only makes my boredom even more excruciating.
Gooneroonie a lot has changed since he signed the contract last year.Dein has gone,Wenger"s future is uncertain after next season,is the the club going to be taken over? and where are the new players we need to strengthen the team to make us challengers next season?.Henry has given us 8 years of fantastic service he owes us nothing.
No offense in return, but Im afraid the Thierry Henry issue IS relevant and if Arsenal fans want to talk about it, then we should. I come on this forum to discuss our club...not read 'jokes' about spurs and chelsea. At the end of the day, im a gooner and don't really give a shit about other clubs and what they do. Ive got nothing against jokes and picking fun at other teams, but id rather hear what people think about OUR club and OUR captain. Shy away and deny it all you like, but at this moment, it looks like we will lose our captain and our best player...surely thats something we should be talking about...not coming up with spurs jokes??
just a thought!
But by all means start a new thread, maybe some light entertainment will do us all the world of good...although a statement from Thierry would be even better???!
just a thought!
But by all means start a new thread, maybe some light entertainment will do us all the world of good...although a statement from Thierry would be even better???!
That put a smile on my face! I've contributed to some of the "will he", "won't he" threads, but I can see your point...!tonysaunders wrote:Thierry Henry is not a relative of mine, nor is he a friend. Therefore, if he should leave my football club, although we will be losing a good player, I'm pretty sure I'll get over it. I supported Arsenal before Thierry Henry and I will support them after.
Goonerk,
Whoa, whoa, whoa. What the hell was that about? I think you need to lighten up a little bit. I agree, the Thierry Henry thing is worth discussing, but you seem to be purposely avoiding my point; it is the only fucking thing that gets discussed here any more.
As for me "shying away from and denying things," that was a little petulant and I don't understand it, but hey ho. I think you took what I said a little too personally. I actually said that I encourage your point of view, but asked if we could please talk about something else. Does that make me any less a Gooner? Just because our captain may or may not be leaving, does this mean we cannot talk about anything else? Can we not have a bit of comic relief? I am not telling anyone what they should or should not talk about, but I am encouraging a change from the norm and the (what is becoming) cliché of "will he, won't he." If you don't like, or don't agree with my thread, then don't go on there. It is as simple as that. I think you need to learn to take a bit of constructive criticism. Don't just jump down people's throats when they disagree strongly with something you have to say. Put it in context; there are LOTS of threads on here discussing the TH14 saga – I start one thread claiming that I am bored of it all and you throw your toys out of your pram; “I come on this forum to discuss our club...not read 'jokes'â€
Whoa, whoa, whoa. What the hell was that about? I think you need to lighten up a little bit. I agree, the Thierry Henry thing is worth discussing, but you seem to be purposely avoiding my point; it is the only fucking thing that gets discussed here any more.
As for me "shying away from and denying things," that was a little petulant and I don't understand it, but hey ho. I think you took what I said a little too personally. I actually said that I encourage your point of view, but asked if we could please talk about something else. Does that make me any less a Gooner? Just because our captain may or may not be leaving, does this mean we cannot talk about anything else? Can we not have a bit of comic relief? I am not telling anyone what they should or should not talk about, but I am encouraging a change from the norm and the (what is becoming) cliché of "will he, won't he." If you don't like, or don't agree with my thread, then don't go on there. It is as simple as that. I think you need to learn to take a bit of constructive criticism. Don't just jump down people's throats when they disagree strongly with something you have to say. Put it in context; there are LOTS of threads on here discussing the TH14 saga – I start one thread claiming that I am bored of it all and you throw your toys out of your pram; “I come on this forum to discuss our club...not read 'jokes'â€
Thanks mate, I've contributed too. I'm not knocking people who do, I'm just tired of it, you know?MK Gould wrote:That put a smile on my face! I've contributed to some of the "will he", "won't he" threads, but I can see your point...!tonysaunders wrote:Thierry Henry is not a relative of mine, nor is he a friend. Therefore, if he should leave my football club, although we will be losing a good player, I'm pretty sure I'll get over it. I supported Arsenal before Thierry Henry and I will support them after.
you're asking me to avoid your thread if im not interested...so why post on mine??? I think you're becoming slightly confused with my intentions here. I don't wish to argue the legitimacy of either topic, because I believe both have their place, all im saying is, to me, and plenty of other people, this is a topic worth talking about. So in future, please to not deride peoples attempts to start a discussion.
Nothing personal at all mate, were all gooners after all, but I was looking forward to hearing what people have to think about my views, not having to justify its merits.
but, anyhoo, I agree with you, it would be nice to have something else to talk about!
Nothing personal at all mate, were all gooners after all, but I was looking forward to hearing what people have to think about my views, not having to justify its merits.
but, anyhoo, I agree with you, it would be nice to have something else to talk about!
