THE FORUM AS IT IS NOW

[SteveO 35]

I think there's a few people taking it all a little bit too seriously.

There's room for all types on here - its as much fun reading Baba's rants and Red's declarations of love for Denilson and Song, as it is listening to Quartz's more reasoned debate, and Herd's tales of yesteryear.

Chill out people - you can simply ignore Red's stuff if it winds you up that much !

The only stuff that should be Modded is totally abusive stuff.

Imagine if my 'Ode to Abou' had been Modded - you'd all be gutted wouldn't ya ?

[frankbutcher]

I think there's a few people taking it all a little bit too seriously.

There's room for all types on here - its as much fun reading Baba's rants and Red's declarations of love for Denilson and Song, as it is listening to Quartz's more reasoned debate, and Herd's tales of yesteryear.

Chill out people - you can simply ignore Red's stuff if it winds you up that much !

The only stuff that should be Modded is totally abusive stuff.

Imagine if my 'Ode to Abou' had been Modded - you'd all be gutted wouldn't ya ?

You've been won over by the new format obviously!

[QuartzGooner]

Do not agree Babatunde.

All that happened was that the Forum came back in the middle of a seven game winning run.

So less criticism of the club whilst we were winning, but certainly not an absence of criticism.

But I do agree with Flash's point, I really do find it odd that you have only come back here as soon as we lost a game.

Was there nothing to talk about whilst we were winning?

I see your point Quartz but just to clear it up.

1. I was on here before our 'winning run' ended. So that's a false statement.
2. Arsenal's season ended when they were dumped out the FA Cup - why did I not come on here gloating? I just haven't been around.

Ripping into Wenger is easy mate, I just need to take ooooh say any given season over the past seven years?

Babatunde

I did not see any posts of yours from the time the Forum was reinstated until the QPR defeat.
Since then I have seen several lengthy anti-Wenger posts in the style you were posting before the suspension.
So if I have accused you of not posting in that time period I apologise, but out of interest, what did you say in that time?

Frank
...there has been as much criticism of Wenger and individual players on here since the QPR defeat as there was prior to the Forum being suspended.
Goonersid, Augie and now Babatunde etc. are still here criticising Wenger.
I think there are very few pro-Wenger voices on here except Red Member who is obviously to an extent a WUM, and a very funny one at that.

The swearing and some of the abuse is gone but what else has changed in terms of comments on the club?

[frankbutcher]

Quartz - you can't have a pop at Babs and then say "oh I didn't see your earlier posts". Sounds like Wenger-speak.

If you think this place hasn't been sanitised, you aren't half as clever as I thought you were. The place has been dumbed down. It is now like any other forum on the web. I'd say that AFC Forum is more lively and certainly has more banter. What Gooner Ed cleverly did was take the most frequent and largely anti-Wenger posters and give them a title. That way all the banter has largely dis-appeared and they are also well on top of getting rid of the anti-Wenger speak. Afterall, the Mods have to set an example. With that move, Gooner Ed instantly took the life and soul out of the place. If people actually volunteered to be Mods, and it wasn't Gooner Ed's doing, well that is even more laughable. You've effectively volunteered to rip the life and soul out of the place.

It's really unbelievable how naive people can be. Good luck lads. You've signed your own death warrant. This place will only get worse.

[Henry Norris 1913]

naieve? you mean naive?

[SteveO 35]

Can someone tell me what has changed so dramatically other than the layout??

Baba's still ranting, Red's still WUMming, I'm still loving Abou, the realists are still being realists, Kiwomya/MM-99 and others are still supporting Wenger - and there's nothing wrong with any of that - it was all going on before

All I know is that would be bloody boring if everyone slated Wenger, or everyone praised Wenger, and if we all liked and hated the same players

That's not being naive, its just failing to see what the bloody hell is different.

What makes a good forum then ? Being able to call someone every name under the sun?

[frankbutcher]

Can someone tell me what has changed so dramatically other than the layout??

Baba's still ranting, Red's still WUMming, I'm still loving Abou, the realists are still being realists, Kiwomya/MM-99 and others are still supporting Wenger - and there's nothing wrong with any of that - it was all going on before

All I know is that would be bloody boring if everyone slated Wenger, or everyone praised Wenger, and if we all liked and hated the same players

That's not being naive, its just failing to see what the bloody hell is different.

What makes a good forum then ? Being able to call someone every name under the sun?

PEOPLE ARE VOTING WITH THEIR FEET. THE PLACE IS A GHOST TOWN. READ INTO THAT WHAT YOU WILL.

[augie]

Can someone tell me what has changed so dramatically other than the layout??

Baba's still ranting, Red's still WUMming, I'm still loving Abou, the realists are still being realists, Kiwomya/MM-99 and others are still supporting Wenger - and there's nothing wrong with any of that - it was all going on before

All I know is that would be bloody boring if everyone slated Wenger, or everyone praised Wenger, and if we all liked and hated the same players

That's not being naive, its just failing to see what the bloody hell is different.

What makes a good forum then ? Being able to call someone every name under the sun?

I agree with Steve O - when this place was relaunched it is fair to say that there was a lot of complaints about a perceived over reaction and new modding rules but in fairness to mike he has now relented to the point where some swearing is allowed as long as it is not aimed directly at an individual and that is fair enough imo.

That being said frankbutcher is also right that a lot of times since re-opening this place has appeared to be somewhat of a ghost town and that is an issue that shouldnt be ignored. I agree with quartz that when results had been going well lately there hasnt been as much debate cos individuals offering their opinions as to where things have gone pear shaped are not as frequent so debate naturally isnt there as much. I also think that there is a perception (whether rightly or wrongly) that the clampdown was largely directed at the realists and that may have also contributed to the loss of posts from the more established members on here.

The durability of a forum like this is based obviously on popularity and I for one do not want to see the place die a death
so we all need to get past this crap and make it the enjoyable hang out it used to be and moaning about it wont change it

[g88ner]

Can someone tell me what has changed so dramatically other than the layout??

Baba's still ranting, Red's still WUMming, I'm still loving Abou, the realists are still being realists, Kiwomya/MM-99 and others are still supporting Wenger - and there's nothing wrong with any of that - it was all going on before

All I know is that would be bloody boring if everyone slated Wenger, or everyone praised Wenger, and if we all liked and hated the same players

That's not being naive, its just failing to see what the bloody hell is different.

What makes a good forum then ? Being able to call someone every name under the sun?

PEOPLE ARE VOTING WITH THEIR FEET. THE PLACE IS A GHOST TOWN. READ INTO THAT WHAT YOU WILL.

But it's been like a ghost town since it re-opened, so if people have voted with their feet, they did so BEFORE they could have known how the new forum would pan out, so I'm not sure they left because it's too sanitised. I think it's mainly because it was closed for so long, and some haven't yet returned.

Perhaps some have left because it is, in their opinion, too sanitised, but I don't think it's as a big a problem as some are making out.

And frank, you say we can't speak our mind any more... but isn't that what you, me and pretty much everyone else is doing? - hell, I even had a go at Mike, and to the best of my knowledge, the only posts that get modded are ones that have swearing, aggression or wumming, aren't they? - views themselves aren't modded... or are you saying otherwise?

[QuartzGooner]

Quartz - you can't have a pop at Babs and then say "oh I didn't see your earlier posts". Sounds like Wenger-speak.

If you think this place hasn't been sanitised, you aren't half as clever as I thought you were. The place has been dumbed down. (

No Frank, I can have a pop at Babatunde and apologise when it was confirmed he had posted between the Forum re -opening and prior to the QPR defeat, rather than just after the QPR defeat; it is called recognising I was wrong and apologising.

But the impression in my mind remains that Babatunde has restarted his longish rants against Wenger only since we have lost against QPR. I simply did not see any of his long rants against Wenger prior to that defeat, and I was reading the Forum every day.
So if Baba posted, what did he post and how frequent was it?
The crux of my argument is what Babatunde posted when we were on a winning streak, I am intrigued to know what someone like him thinks when we do go on a good run.

I also disagree that the place has been stripped of anti-Wenger thought. Did you read my article during the shutdown? It was a concise reasoning of why I want Wenger to leave this summer, based solely on football reasons.
It stirred a lot of debate in the comments section, with heated exchanges between pro and anti Wenger fans.

Read it here:

http://www.onlinegooner.com/article.php ... ve&id=2637

The Forum is now quieter; in part no doubt to our winning run, and to some posters not realising it is up and running again, and to some who feel put off by the banning of swearing. That is their loss.
Sanitised in terms of language and the over the top abuse that was ruining the place and pushing people away.

But as SteveO says, many of the "Usual Suspects" are back here and carrying on with our M.O's!

[Yankee_Gooner_Dandee]

this forum is a fucking ghost town compared to what it was. so boring nowdays

the same 12 threads have been on the front page for 2 weeks it seems like.

if you cannot see that this forum has changed for the worst you are as blind as wenger

[Yankee_Gooner_Dandee]

its 1:35pm here, which means its 7:35pm in London, and theres a total of 6 registered users online. yeah...not a ghost town

[SteveO 35]

Well if people are unable to get their opinions across without resorting to mindless abuse then I don't particularly miss them anyway.

Baba is back on here and his rants make me laugh - the references to the Ivorian Tony Daley and other such comments I find funnier than "When did Arsene Wenger start being such a c+++" for example.

I want Wenger gone tomorrow, and I've felt that way since 2008. I'll carry on mocking his 'super quality' bull that will no doubt resurface in the Summer, and all the other Arseneballs comments that will follow timid defeats at shitty little clubs like Stoke and Wolves. I'll have the same old arguments with the same old suspects, we'll all wind each other up, I expect to cop plenty more flak for supporting the Imperious Abou, and we'll laugh at the latest collection of Red's one-liners.

If someone wants to set up a forum where every single poster hates half of the players, wants the manager hanging from a noose and called a 'c' in every post, doesn't want to listen to anyone's counter arguments without a tirade of abuse, then go and set it up. If its such a popular approach then it won't be a 'ghost town' and will soon be flooded with like minds won't it?

When the likes of Red Member and Baba get banned the forum will become truly boring

[flash gunner]

Quartz - you can't have a pop at Babs and then say "oh I didn't see your earlier posts". Sounds like Wenger-speak.

If you think this place hasn't been sanitised, you aren't half as clever as I thought you were. The place has been dumbed down. It is now like any other forum on the web. I'd say that AFC Forum is more lively and certainly has more banter. What Gooner Ed cleverly did was take the most frequent and largely anti-Wenger posters and give them a title. That way all the banter has largely dis-appeared and they are also well on top of getting rid of the anti-Wenger speak. Afterall, the Mods have to set an example. With that move, Gooner Ed instantly took the life and soul out of the place. If people actually volunteered to be Mods, and it wasn't Gooner Ed's doing, well that is even more laughable. You've effectively volunteered to rip the life and soul out of the place.

It's really unbelievable how naive people can be. Good luck lads. You've signed your own death warrant. This place will only get worse.

Its strange Frank for someone who doesnt care too much about the forum you seem to get very upset about it. Personally i liked the old forum and i like the new one and with the abuse gone i like the new one more in some ways. The forum will live or die by the posters or lack of them and if it dies so be it, we've all got lives outside of this place and we wont lose any sleep over it, will we? Like it or not this place is the OG Forum without the abuse. No-one is told how to think or post no-one is told to be pro Wenger or anti for that matter and no-one is made to stay and post here, i think even the banter has been getting back for the last week or so but i obviously know fark all.....

All this said i want the forum to be a success not due to my inflated position of removing double posts and general housekeeping but because ive met some genuinely nice, decent people off of here before, during and after our love of Arsenal matches and i enjoy chatting and banter with them.

Up the Gunners - Up the OG Forum

[LDB]

The forum was closed for too long, its as simple as that. Alot of people that would have read and posted here found new corners of the goonerweb to infest.

The forum is going to need time to grow all over again. Still, its nowhere near as bad as some of the whiners are suggesting.