As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
Rosicky's Right Boot wrote:I'm firmly in the AKB camp at present, but that may change based on this summer's transfer activity and how the team performs in these final 3 games.
Yeah cos it isnt as if he hasnt had the last few transfer windows to fix issues is it ?
time is running out this summer for Wenger. whilst I always support a manager and the team during the season he is open to criticism from May 14th
So in your world, he does sweet FA from 1st June to 31st August in terms of addressing the gaps in the squad...you get angry...then the window passes and all is forgiven once more?
out out out. stale bread. need a change. who? idk but moyes seems like a decent choice. would obviously rather have pep though. anciolotti would also be a decent pick.
Are there any AKB's out there that admit to being an AKB? Like just " Arsene knows better than me and I will not question his decisions. I have not worked half a day in football so I will not criticise him. He can do no wrong in my eyes"
We hear plenty of -
"i'm not an AKB but I want Wenger to stay"
and
"right now Arsene is the best man for the job"
or
" but who could realistically replace him"
and
" I'll wait until the summer transfer window and judge him then"
and
"Yes I know he has made some mistakes but I think he shoud stay to put things right"
Just sounds to me like people making excuses for him and not owning up to being AKB's. Maybe it just because people dont like to be "labelled" or "put into boxes" but in my view if you come out with any of the above you're an AKB. And if you are - fair play just dont deny it. Come out, you'll feel much better for it. Liberate yourself
I want Wenger out now, Im not afraid to say it and dont try to dress it up as something its not. I couldn't care less what Wenger does or doesn't do from here on in, I want him gone for the mess he has left the club in right now. And no, I dont forget what he has done for us in the past and never will but thats over now and its time to move on.
One of the saddest things for me is that Wenger has divided us. When I read some of the Wenger apologist posts on here it really makes me quite angry and thats not how it should be. Dont get me wrong everyones entitled to post their thoughts and rightfully so - even Red Member . The point I'm making is that fellow gooners opinions should not make me feel so angry about our manager/club.
Remember - We (including me and all the WOBARMY) were AKB's once.
Well summed up mate - sentimentality doesnt come into it when assessing a player on the decline so the same rules should apply with managers. I do not believe that wenger has done a good enough job as manager for the last 4 seasons and I have no doubt whatsoever that had the man only be appointed as manager 5 years ago then every Gooner out there would want him sacked but too many are still living in the past
I think Moyes is a decent manager
his transfer record is pretty poor and his teams always start the season terribly
can't imagine what you lot would be posting if he did the same at the Arsenal...
Agree with JD, I have lot of time for Moyes as a manager and he will be an improvement on Wenger in a number of areas but will he be able to handle the pressure that comes with managing a more glamourous club? Roy Hodgson is a decent manager and look what happened at him at the victims. Also will he be able to identify and attract top players to the club? Wenger's replacement has to be someone who has experience in winning trophies.
highburyJD wrote:I think Moyes is a decent manager
his transfer record is pretty poor and his teams always start the season terribly
can't imagine what you lot would be posting if he did the same at the Arsenal...
I think it's widely accepted that Moyes had a good record in the transfer market - I guess pro-rata compared to the breadth of scope and resources of other clubs, it compares extremely favourably.
And if he did the same at Arsenal, people would be asking why - as they probably do so at Everton.
Gunnerz4life wrote:Agree with JD, I have lot of time for Moyes as a manager and he will be an improvement on Wenger in a number of areas but will he be able to handle the pressure that comes with managing a more glamourous club? Roy Hodgson is a decent manager and look what happened at him at the victims. Also will he be able to identify and attract top players to the club? Wenger's replacement has to be someone who has experience in winning trophies.
Moyes has had f**k all money to spend in his 10 years with the toffee's - yes people can point to some big money signings (like afro fellani) but he has had to sell to generate funds and if you are constantly selling your best players how can your team ever really improve and a manager is judged by whether their team is improving or not so moyes is operating with 2 hands behind his back in that regard. Some defend wenger's transfer activity (or lack thereof) in recent seasons by claiming that he has f**k all to spend (despite everyone within the club inc wenger saying otherwise) but I will say without doubt moyes purchases on a similar net spend is far far better than wengers in the past 3 years.
Personally I would be happy enough if moyes was our next manager - will he lead us back into success ? I dont know the answer to that but I do know that the team would play with passion and commitment consistantly and not just when they can be arsed plus he would set his team up with some tactical shape
Btw woy hodgson took over victims fc at an absolutely shocking time - the owners were despised, the fans were pulling against the club as a result, the players were totally frustrated and some left and with the club in such turmoil no quality player was interested in joining them. It was a poisonous chalice and hodgson hadnt a prayer so it should not be viewed as a reflection of his ability or performance
highburyJD wrote:I think Moyes is a decent manager his transfer record is pretty poor and his teams always start the season terribly
can't imagine what you lot would be posting if he did the same at the Arsenal...
Highbury JD, how do you come to that conclusion mate?
Look at the main stays of that team - Howard (cost f-all from ManUre), Coleman (plucked from obscurity in Irish league), Baines (now worth £15m+), Jagielka (£4m from Sheff Utd, now supposedly a £15m-£20m player), Cahill £2.5m from Millwall (scored umpteen goals per season, except this one), Pienaar, Phil Neville etc
I think the guy has an outstanding transfer record. I'm sure there are maybe one or two that haven't worked out but generally speaking his record is excellent. Robbed City of £20m for Lescott too.
. The point I'm making is that fellow gooners opinions should not make me feel so angry about our manager/club.
