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Re: McDowell's VANITY 'Rumours' Thread

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Babatunde wrote:
Erm. Strikers rumoured to be in the market this summer include Gonzalo Higuain, David Villa, Carlos Tevez, Didier Drogba.
Please, please don't insult my intelligence by claiming Podolski is anywhere near that bracket of player. .
yes, because clubs are clamouring for Tevez (temperament), Drogba (aged 34....) and Villa, who hasn't played since December and will miss the Euro's...

and Higuain - LOL, 20 appearances for Argentina, so according to you he's 'unproven' isn't he ????


i think some people just like to shoot holes in stuff to make themselves feel better, or more relevant perhaps.

to criticise the purchase of a 26 yr old striker with a great track record for a major international side is petty at best and ludicrous at worst.

to make another comparison - wayne rooney who's the same age, has 28/73 for England (versus Pods 43/95), so he's not top quality for some on here - and if we bought him THEN WENGER MUST GO !!!!.

LMFAO.

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Re: McDowell's 'Rumours' Thread

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clockender1 wrote:
1989 wrote: To add to your point on Poldi failing at Bayern, other examples of top players who failed at big clubs include; Shevchenko, Forlan, Veron, Torres at Chelsea, Ibrahimovic at Barca etc.

You wouldn't have any of those at their peak Bab"s? :lol:
or Thierry Henry at Juve ?

Bergkamp at Inter ?

failures both of em' - not good enough for The Arsenal. according to some...
That you completely failed to address my point is good enough for me to close this one out.
"The best available striker on the market"

LOL

You weren't watching Falcao last night then were you?
:roll:

Podolski is very good. But don't even try and claim he's world class because that is easily ridiculed.

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Re: McDowell's VANITY 'Rumours' Thread

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Oh and since when did Wenger sign Bergkamp?? :shock:

I suppose all is forgiven since Arsene has now officially signed "the best available striker on the market" (that isn't Higuain, or Villa, or Tevez, or Falcao, or Drogba Lol)

I'm happy with his signing but aghast at how some will try and re-write history in a bid to make Arsene look like a messiah...
:roll:

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Re: McDowell's VANITY 'Rumours' Thread

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Babatunde wrote:Oh and since when did Wenger sign Bergkamp?? :shock:

I suppose all is forgiven since Arsene has now officially signed "the best available striker on the market" (that isn't Higuain, or Villa, or Tevez, or Falcao, or Drogba Lol)

I'm happy with his signing but aghast at how some will try and re-write history in a bid to make Arsene look like a messiah...
:roll:
I always love correcting that point. Amazing how many JCLs quote Bergkamp as one of Wenger's top signings :banghead:

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Re: McDowell's VANITY 'Rumours' Thread

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Babatunde wrote:It seems some people have a hard time grasping basic comments so please, allow me to repeat myself: Lukas Podolski is a good player. A very good one actually. However. Many Arsenal fans seem criminally blinkered and deluded to the point of farce when it comes to players we sign.

Podolski is nowhere near as Robin Van Persie.
Van Persie is wanted by Real, Citeh, Barca and Man United.
That je could take his pick of big clubs is a sign of his class.

Podolski is not wanted by major clubs.
This doesn't mean he's shit. But it's evidence he isn't considered anywhere in RVP class.
Anyone arguing that Podolski is as good as Robin "ridiculous number of goals in a calendar year", is deluded.

If Podolski comes in to complement RVP, then it's a good signing.
If however, as I suspect, he has come as a replacement, it would be like getting rid of your iPhone and getting a pay as you go Nokia. Good effective phone, does the job but not in the same class.

Another thing I am finding funny is how all of a sudden, Podolski is top top class. A poster claimed he is probably the best available striker on the market.

Erm. Strikers rumoured to be in the market this summer include Gonzalo Higuain, David Villa, Carlos Tevez, Didier Drogba.
Please, please don't insult my intelligence by claiming Podolski is anywhere near that bracket of player. It's just comical.

I repeat: Podolski is a very decent player and will complement RVP well. But please, don't pretend that as a replacement it'd be anything but a step backwards. Or perhaps you were one of those who thought we'd be better off selling Nasri and relying on Gervinho? Or that selling Cesc and bringing in Arteta would make us stronger? Or that Gibbs and Santos could replace Clichy? :roll :

Please. Podolski is a good player, but to call him a top of the range top class purchase is plain false.
He's a very good player though, that's what counts...
Im ashamed :wink: for once in my time on here i agree with one of Babatunde's posts :shock: :D

and well played Baba a good post with no abuse :high5: :wink:

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Re: McDowell's VANITY 'Rumours' Thread

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Babatunde wrote:Oh and since when did Wenger sign Bergkamp?? :shock:

I suppose all is forgiven since Arsene has now officially signed "the best available striker on the market" (that isn't Higuain, or Villa, or Tevez, or Falcao, or Drogba Lol)

I'm happy with his signing but aghast at how some will try and re-write history in a bid to make Arsene look like a messiah...
:roll:
Did he say Bergamp was signed by Wenger? I thought it read that Bergkamp after his failure at Inter wasnt considered good enough by some at Arsenal he doesnt mention Wenger does he?

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clockender1 wrote:
Babatunde wrote:
Erm. Strikers rumoured to be in the market this summer include Gonzalo Higuain, David Villa, Carlos Tevez, Didier Drogba.
Please, please don't insult my intelligence by claiming Podolski is anywhere near that bracket of player. .
yes, because clubs are clamouring for Tevez (temperament), Drogba (aged 34....) and Villa, who hasn't played since December and will miss the Euro's...

and Higuain - LOL, 20 appearances for Argentina, so according to you he's 'unproven' isn't he ????


i think some people just like to shoot holes in stuff to make themselves feel better, or more relevant perhaps.

to criticise the purchase of a 26 yr old striker with a great track record for a major international side is petty at best and ludicrous at worst.

to make another comparison - wayne rooney who's the same age, has 28/73 for England (versus Pods 43/95), so he's not top quality for some on here - and if we bought him THEN WENGER MUST GO !!!!.

LMFAO.
Did your teacher not teach you basic English at school?
We're you too busy eating your own bogey in class?
Which part of "he's a good player" do you not understand?

I'm gonna expose what a joker you are.

1. You try to criticise Higuain. LOL
Nice selective choice of international stats. Look closet though:? How many league goals has Higuain scored, playing for a bigger club, where he competes with two of the best strikers in Europe?
That'd be more than Podolski then. Hush up.

2. Tevez and his attitude? Yeah must be they same attitude that has seen AC Milan bid for him twice, and will see him pick up a second league title. You're talking about the same Tevez who ran the league a year ago. Playing for a club full of class players. Again: silence in the auditorium please. No sane individual would rate Podolski above Tevez. That's why one is valued at £30 mil and is about to win the league, and the other is valued at £10 mil and got relegated.

3. Did you just try and compare David Villa, golden boot in the Euros, to Podolski? LOL

Tell you what lets go further and claim Podolski is better than Ronaldo eh?

Hilarious. And embarrassing. You sound like those Liverpool fans who claim Lucas is as good as Yaya Toure ha ha ha

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Re: McDowell's VANITY 'Rumours' Thread

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Just one question when did David Villa become available? Youve just plucked names out of the air he still recovering from a broken leg but Barca wouldnt sell him even if he were fully fit. You could say him being missing is what cost Barca the league/European Cup.

and another thing id rather have Podolski ahead of Tevez i wouldnt have that bad attitude *word censored* anywhere near my club even if he is a good player

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I'm happy with his signing but aghast at how some will try and re-write history in a bid to make Arsene look like a messiah...


Wenger is NOT the messiah..................he's a very naughty boy

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Babatunde wrote:Find me one muppet who thinks Podolski is a better/equal player to RVP and I will eat my hat.

Oh hold on....it seems I've found my competition winner already!

:roll: :lol: :lol:
please provide photo's/video of the hat eating
1989 wrote:To add to your point on Poldi failing at Bayern, other examples of top players who failed at big clubs include; Shevchenko, Forlan, Veron, Torres at Chelsea, Ibrahimovic at Barca etc.

You wouldn't have any of those at their peak Bab"s? :lol:
Henry at Juve and God at Inter
but they were rubbish...
Babatunde wrote:don't even try and claim he's world class because that is easily ridiculed.
no one did
you're quite easily ridiculed
Babatunde wrote:Oh and since when did Wenger sign Bergkamp?? :shock:
voices in your head again Baba?
you should glue the tin foil hat down
flash gunner wrote:Just one question when did David Villa become available?
he's not available - flash is right

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Also why would anyone sign Carlos Tevez? As Gary Neville pointed out last week, the guy is only at City because nobody went after him when he was dangling there. He's a bloody mercenary, not one I want at Arsenal.

As for Drogba, whilst I'm a big fan of him as a player, are you seriously suggesting you would have wanted him instead of Podolski? The ages of the two make my mind up on this issue.

I don't think Podolski is there to replace RVP. And even if he was, I would highly doubt that Wenger would not add another striker. He's made it clear that we relied too heavily on one player for goals this year. Not saying Robin wont go (I don't think he will btw) but I don't think we'ld get one in one out.

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Babatunde wrote:
clockender1 wrote:
1989 wrote: To add to your point on Poldi failing at Bayern, other examples of top players who failed at big clubs include; Shevchenko, Forlan, Veron, Torres at Chelsea, Ibrahimovic at Barca etc.

You wouldn't have any of those at their peak Bab"s? :lol:
or Thierry Henry at Juve ?

Bergkamp at Inter ?

failures both of em' - not good enough for The Arsenal. according to some...
That you completely failed to address my point is good enough for me to close this one out.
"The best available striker on the market"

LOL

You weren't watching Falcao last night then were you?
:roll:

Podolski is very good. But don't even try and claim he's world class because that is easily ridiculed.
I believe he is definitely World Class as his record for Germany suggests.
However having watching Falcao last night...Falcao he ain't. Crikey that was a hell of a performance

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Podolski is a good signing but I do think it is because RVP might well leave and we don't want the panic stations of last summer which wrecked our chances after 5 games. Also if we hold out until late August we would then be desperate to buy and the price of any replacement will go up.

Do I think he will go ? Yes

Will we make lots of changes this summer ? No

Will there be a transfer profit after being told we have 30 or so mill to spend ? Yes

Fuck me have made myself depressed because season after season nothing changes !

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Did I just hear this right? Is the consensus on here that you would not sign Tevez?? :shock:

I know he's a tool and all but, let's look at it objectively. Mercenary?
Ok.

How long has Manuel Almunia sat back and drained AFC of wages, knowing he will never ever play?
How about Djourou extending his contract?
How about Denilson?
How about Bendtner showing off how much he makes by putting 52 on his kit?
How about Flapianski, draining the club of funds despite never playing?
How about Diaby? :shock:
How about Chamakh, who has made it clear he has no intention of relinquishing his £60k a week, despite never playing?
Did Wenger not go ahead and sign Gallas anyway, despite the fact he threatened to score an own goal at Chelski? Did you not all cheer him on? :roll:

Oh but Tevez is a "mercenary". Difference being, he's one who actually wins stuff, and is a quality player.

I'd rather have "loyal" players like Chamakh instead, happy to pick up their wages.

Oh and by the by, I see no one here has an issue with Podolski picking up that fat signing on fee despite his shocking behaviour towards his manager Solbakkenat Cologne. Still.

Wouldn't wanna let facts get in the way of morality etc etc..

:roll:

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Also. Please.

Could somebody. Anybody. Please explain to me how Lukas Podolski is "World Class" please?

I'm genuinely curious to hear. Cannot remember the last works class striker I saw playing for a relegated team??

Is this the same criteria that makes Mertesacker a top quality defender because of his caps?

How many Champions League goals and appearances does "world class" Podolski have please?

Seriously. I repeat, some are starting to sound like Liverpool fans with the hype.

I also suppose that Mirislav Klose is also "world class" then eh?
:lol:

Tell you what I'll send 100 top managers a survey of who they'd include in a world 11 and see how many pick Podolski. If
even one does, I'll buy you any car you choose.

I repeat: good player.
World class?

Dear Lord the modern Arsenal fan..
:roll:

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