Van Persie saga, officially not extending contract.

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To be fair those players you mentioned are just shit, van Persie was always injured picking up his wages, big difference for me.

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Gunnersaurus wrote:To be fair those players you mentioned are just shit, van Persie was always injured picking up his wages, big difference for me.
Agree. But the difference is, he decided to deliver one season with a Golden boot, 30 league goals (Henry was the last striker to do that for us), and has forged himself a rep as one of the best strikers in Europe - Messi says so himself. Oh and single handedly saved Wenger's bacon. Imagine where Arsenal would have been with Chamakh and Park up front?
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Like I said. RVP has earned it, may be just one season but that one season is more than garbage like Song, Diaby, Chamakh et al could ever combine to produce if you gave them 100 years!

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Chamakh scored 9 in 12 before van Persie finally got fit, while im not suggesting he could scored 37 goals a season my point is if you play as the main striker in this team then someone stands a chance of scoring goals.

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Babatunde wrote:If RVP stays at Arsenal, then that for me, makes him much more of a mercenary.
Staying at Arsenal means RVP is not challenging himself to improve, play with better players and fight to get into a competitive world class team. If anything, staying at Arsenal will merely confirm that he lacks ambition and wants a nice life on easy street: picking up his fat wages, without ever having to bother about fighting to win trophies, walk into the team every week, never be subject to discipline and public scrutiny etc....play for fans who demand absolutely nothing and will kiss your ring for finishing 4th/3rd.

If RVP is a serious footballer who cares about winning before money and a life of easy comfort, he will leave.
If he stays, mercenary?! Beyond belief at such a ridiculous utterance - will await 8000 word diatribe in response.

I expect he will go which will be desparately sad but in a way understandable. If that is the case the killer will be City and be the catalyst, I hope, for loads of posts/protests about why it's come to us,and no one else, being their feeder club.
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I think we should sell Robin and buy someone better, that will solve the problem. Hopefully though it will be someone with a really short name so that the fans who want shirts printed wont hav to pay too much, Ba springs to mind, but if any of you know of anyone with a shorter name then even better. Shame Mr T doesn't play footie.

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Gunnersaurus wrote:Chamakh scored 9 in 12 before van Persie finally got fit, while im not suggesting he could scored 37 goals a season my point is if you play as the main striker in this team then someone stands a chance of scoring goals.
No no not true. Chamakh had a purple patch. How many of the litany of chances did he convert after his purple patch?
How many do you think Park would get in this team?

You are talking as if this team creates a host of chances in every game - have you been watching Arsenal lately? There isn't a single person capable of threading a through ball in Wilshere's absence. We went to Swansea and made them look like Real. The team that broke a CL record with zero shots of any note in Barcelona. This team does NOT creat a host of chances - look at plenty of RVP's goals e.g. Liverpool away, Everton at home, several others, and they are goals out of absolutely nothing.

I'd agree with you if Bergkamp, Pires et al were still about, but you tlak as if we are some swashbuckling team who play great ball - it's no longer 2008, Arsenal are poor in possession. To score above 15 league goals as a striker in this shower, you need to be seriously outstanding.

Out of curiosity - how many other Arsenal players have scored double figures this season please?
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Yeah I went to 28 games last year, probably not as many games you went to at Spurs but went to.enough to form an opinion.

How many chances did van Persie miss against Norwich?

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Delorean Dor's wrote:I think we should sell Robin and buy someone better, that will solve the problem. Hopefully though it will be someone with a really short name so that the fans who want shirts printed wont hav to pay too much, Ba springs to mind, but if any of you know of anyone with a shorter name then even better. Shame Mr T doesn't play footie.
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Babatunde forget the amount of money Wenger is on and how little Chamakh has scored for 1 minute, who's your number 1 legend?

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flash gunner wrote:Babatunde forget the amount of money Wenger is on and how little Chamakh has scored for 1 minute, who's your number 1 legend?
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Lee1 wrote:
Babatunde wrote:If RVP stays at Arsenal, then that for me, makes him much more of a mercenary.
Staying at Arsenal means RVP is not challenging himself to improve, play with better players and fight to get into a competitive world class team. If anything, staying at Arsenal will merely confirm that he lacks ambition and wants a nice life on easy street: picking up his fat wages, without ever having to bother about fighting to win trophies, walk into the team every week, never be subject to discipline and public scrutiny etc....play for fans who demand absolutely nothing and will kiss your ring for finishing 4th/3rd.

If RVP is a serious footballer who cares about winning before money and a life of easy comfort, he will leave.
If he stays, mercenary?! Beyond belief at such a ridiculous utterance - will await 8000 word diatribe in response.

I expect he will go which will be desparately sad but in a way understandable. If that is the case the killer will be City and be the catalyst, I hope, for loads of posts/protests about why it's come to us,and no one else, being their feeder club.
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Definition of a mercenary : somebody who is willing to sell his services to the highest bidder (regardless of who that bidder is)
Now if rvp decides to sign a bumper new contract with us (in our present guise) then for me and many others, rvp would be putting money above ambition and actually winning trophies and that my friend is what baba is suggesting and tbh if you take off your Gooner Goggles you would have to concede that he has a point. We all want to believe that players love the club as much as we the fans do but that simply isnt the case so when they look at things they would be in a much better position to see things clearer than us blinkered fans :( :(

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What nonsense, he could re sign with the view of being the man to bring the glory days back.

Have an opinion but don't speak for him.

If he signs with us then money will be the last thing he will be doing it for as he will get more elsewhere.
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Tbh I don't really understand this "he owes this or that". It's not like the club paid his wages because they are such nice guys but because there is something like a contract :?

Of course they could have tried to sell him but what do you get for a mid20 unproven talent? Nothing. That's why Wenger didn't sell him. Van Persie didn't cost too much money and it was obvious that one day he simply HAD to stay fit for a whole season or more. And that is worth much more than gifting him to some small team. And of course you can sell him now for big money.

Btw do you think he would play for Arsenal if he was no mercenary? :rubchin:
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Listen Guys, with Robin in our side we only managed 3rd place, have you thought for one moment that he might be whats holding us back? Sell him I say, we may well do a lot better without him :barscarf:

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