Cesc to return?

[augie]

Offer Cazorla in a swap deal

No.
Arshavin + Diaby + Chamakh!

I was going to say that vilanova couldn't be that stupid and then I remembered that he bought song so anything is possible If I was Cesc, the thought of training and playing alongside song again would make me more than a little unhappy too

[rigsby]

We have a 30 mil buy back clause. The only player Wenger would spend 30 million on is Cesc.

I genuinely believe we're the only club he would move to in England.

[flash gunner]

We have a 30 mil buy back clause. The only player Wenger would spend 30 million on is Cesc.

I genuinely believe we're the only club he would move to in England.

You also believed RVP wouldn't leave us

[skizz_b]

Fuck him. he went on strike to go and sign for those whores, if he's unhappy he can live and die by his own sword.

we have two spaniards now so he can enjoy sitting alongside song on the bench and think about what he did to the club who took him as a kid and made him what he is

i would also have used the middle finger emoticon to replace the first two words but alas, i cannot find it

[T.S]

Offer Cazorla in a swap deal

That's an interesting one. Y'know, from what I've seen from him so far (and I know it's only early days), I'm more than happy with Santi. Sorry, Cesc.

Now, the both of them together - now we're talking...

[SteveO 35]

I have no ill feeling towards Cesc whatsoever. As far as I'm concerned his intentions were always clear to return to Barcelona - and only Barcelona - at our expense and he stuck by that. Generally he gave his all and conducted himself well on and off the field. He has also been nothing both gracious about Arsenal since he left, despite the media wanting to pick up the odd line and blow it out of proportion

Compare him to 'Number 1 fan' RVP, who wasted 6 years being injured and then walked off and joined another English club because he listened to the 'little boy inside'. The 'little boy inside' presumably was so little and had selective hearing, choosing to ignore the songs from his new club's fans calling him a rapist and his manager a paedophile - classy. Blowing kisses to that lot already - what a complete wanker. Watch out for him coming back and lording up in front of us if he scores as well - something I don't think Cesc would ever do if he came back and scored against us

However, I'm not surprised that Cesc has some concerns. Most of us knew that a team with Xavi, Iniesta, Busquests etc plus millions to spend on whoever they like, would likely see him as a rotational player. To be honest he's had more playing time than I thought. That is the trade off I'm afraid between being a big fish at a club where a top 4 finish and a domestic cup run are the height of your ambition, or being one of a number at Treble winners. Just like the majority of players that join City will find - unless you're a Messi, Aguero etc level world star then expect to be subbed and rotated from the bench

I'd love to see the fella back here one day. A midfield quartet of Carzola, Arteta, Cesc and the great Abou, plus the option of a fit again Wilshere. Not many midfields to match that....

[Babatunde]

Understandable that Cesc is annoyed, he spent so long at the Colney summer camp where you walk into the team every Saturday unchallenged, that all of a sudden he is having to do things like fight for his place, train harder, look over his shoulder and focus on success!
Or perhaps maybe like Giroud, Cesc needs 'a year of adaptation'

As for RVP SteveO, what do you reckon is going to happen with him?
You know, last season when we were butt-humped 8-2 at OT, that look RVP gave Wenger when he was subbed off spoke volumes. I am 100% convinced that there and then, he was completely decided he had had enough, and to be honest on that level, I cannot blame Van Pursestrings. EIGHT TWO FFS. If ever anyone was surrounded by a team of c**8 then there was the example.
As if to ram the message home, Le Clown then proceeded to make the infamous Ox substitution and hand Fergie the first of many favours and points (the sale of RVP has helped further!).

SteveO you're one of the only lucid/intelligent posters on this cesspit (said lovingly), along with Tony Saunders, DB10 and IHH.
So I am a little surprised that, although RVP is clearly an arse hole...am surprised you can't see Wenger himself is far from blameless in all this and drove him out the club? Why weren't the signings of Cazorla or Podolski made two summers ago? We've always been flush. Why was Bould or a defensive coach not appointed years before, despite clear evidence of Arsenal's only competent defending coming off the back of Keown's management?

Oh no. It appears the Security Services known as the CIAA (Central Idiocy Arsene Agency) have subverted the context involved: RVP is an arse hole, this is beyond doubt. But there is a bigger arse hole in this piece, and it's the one that deemed that Theo Walcott was able to run down his contract because it's vital we keep a buffoon sprinter, but more essential that we sell to MAN UNITED a world class match-winner.

Don't let Wenker get away with it, RVP could have been made to run his deal down, he'd have been a year closer to 30. They'd get less out of him. But oh no, £24 million is more important. Strengthening the best manager in the history of club football? Pah who cares!

[flash gunner]

Only Baba could turn a thread like this into an Anti Arsenal thread!!!!

Gooner my arse

[Babatunde]

Only Baba could turn a thread like this into an Anti Arsenal thread!!!!

Gooner my arse

Yes. It's 'anti-Arsenal' to criticise the manager isn't it? Because you see, he IS Arsenal. Right?
Ignore the fact I called RVP an arse hole. Citing the fact the manager screws up substitutions, and mentioning a scoreline that actually happened is ANTI-ARSENAL

Next you'll tell me that mentioning the Interregnum makes me a BNP affiliate and that mentioning eyesight makes me a voyeur! Pathetic attempt...

SteveO mentioned RVP in the thread, and spoke of how he believed he'd shat on us. I agreed but gave an alternative version. Nowhere do I actually slate Arsenal itself - I slate the noxious culture instigated by one man and one man alone, and the lack of competition he's instilled. Aand you turn that into 'anti-Arsenal'.

You should go run Mitt Romney's campaign, you've got the 'credentials' for it....

[cusamano]

We have a 30 mil buy back clause. The only player Wenger would spend 30 million on is Cesc.

No, because he will spend 40 million on Götze or Reus next summer.

[flash gunner]

What the fuck are you going on about Baba????? Mitt romney, BNP, Interregnum, Arsene is Arsenal........ The list goes on and on. Im as anti Arsene as anyone but im not anti Arsenal....... Baba you could turn a thread about Anfield '89, tits or gardening into an anti Arsenal rant. You try to braille (sp) beat people into submission with long posts full of bluster and bollocks like the one above and ignore the posts where people catch you out..... Stick to what you know best making prediction after the event and being pro anyone else but Arsenal

[kite]

Offer Cazorla in a swap deal

No.
Arshavin + Diaby + Chamakh!

I was going to say that vilanova couldn't be that stupid and then I remembered that he bought song so anything is possible If I was Cesc, the thought of training and playing alongside song again would make me more than a little unhappy too

Song was very good against Valencia you know? He did exactly what you expect from your DM - protected the back four really well and didn't try to go forward all the time.

[SteveO 35]

Baba - you know me by now mate. Of course, it goes without saying that Wenger has played a key role in the departure of all of our star players by failing to keep us competitive. The 8-2 was just about as humiliating experience I can ever remember as an Arsenal, amplified by the banners that were displayed that day that just about wanted me to empty the contents of my stomach on my new carpet.

If the signings we all know were needed when he let the 2008 team break-up had happened then I believe we would definitely have kept RvP and maybe Cesc (although the Barca thing would eventually have happened).

The key point of difference between Cesc and RvP for me was that they were both here for similar periods of time. Cesc, on the whole, conducted himself superbly was mostly available for selection (barring the last year) and made no secret of his love for Barcelona. It was inevitable he'd go there someday, so we can handle it. Barca acted like tossers but what's new there?

RvP, despite probably being driven to despair by Wenger, shat on us by joining THEM, after a long history of injuries. He could have 'done an Henry' and extended his contract but in the knowledge he'd pre-agreed a move the year afterwards. He could have said to his agent 'I want out, but get me a move to Real Madrid or Barca'. But he didn't. He fucked us about with bland statements and joined a club that abused him for many a year.

Wenger at fault in both scenarios - I just personally believe one man conducted himself with more dignity than the other. Just my view

[Babatunde]

What the fuck are you going on about Baba????? Mitt romney, BNP, Interregnum, Arsene is Arsenal........ The list goes on and on. Im as anti Arsene as anyone but im not anti Arsenal....... Baba you could turn a thread about Anfield '89, tits or gardening into an anti Arsenal rant. You try to braille (sp) beat people into submission with long posts full of bluster and bollocks like the one above and ignore the posts where people catch you out..... Stick to what you know best making prediction after the event and being pro anyone else but Arsenal

Errrm....You need a lie-down dear? Was thsat post 'long'? How on earth do you get through a book then? Or have you never read one sire? What did you 'catch me out' on? Go on? I slated Wenger, full stop. You then called me 'anti Arsenal' for it. I told you you were talking out your rectum. You then gave me said 'bluster and bollocks' about it. Stick to what You know and take your advice, which is informing people how they should and shouldn't support a team, and how mentioning criticisms of Lord Wenger make you 'anti Arsenal'.

On yer bike please...

[Babatunde]

Baba - you know me by now mate. Of course, it goes without saying that Wenger has played a key role in the departure of all of our star players by failing to keep us competitive. The 8-2 was just about as humiliating experience I can ever remember as an Arsenal, amplified by the banners that were displayed that day that just about wanted me to empty the contents of my stomach on my new carpet.

If the signings we all know were needed when he let the 2008 team break-up had happened then I believe we would definitely have kept RvP and maybe Cesc (although the Barca thing would eventually have happened).

The key point of difference between Cesc and RvP for me was that they were both here for similar periods of time. Cesc, on the whole, conducted himself superbly was mostly available for selection (barring the last year) and made no secret of his love for Barcelona. It was inevitable he'd go there someday, so we can handle it. Barca acted like tossers but what's new there?

RvP, despite probably being driven to despair by Wenger, shat on us by joining THEM, after a long history of injuries. He could have 'done an Henry' and extended his contract but in the knowledge he'd pre-agreed a move the year afterwards. He could have said to his agent 'I want out, but get me a move to Real Madrid or Barca'. But he didn't. He fucked us about with bland statements and joined a club that abused him for many a year.

Wenger at fault in both scenarios - I just personally believe one man conducted himself with more dignity than the other. Just my view

SteveO I was going to respond to your post, but I could not help but notice that you:

a. Criticised Wenger harshly.
b. Mentioned an 8-2 scoreline that actually happened
c. Mentioned Cesc leaving for a bigger club.

This makes you 'anti-Arsenal.'
Please stick to the topic aty hand please....