THE WENGER THREAD

[kiwomya]

We drew a game we ALL wanted to win and Wenger clearly wasn't happy about it. Who would want a fucking jumped up "reporter" questioning your decisions? The power these people have now is laughable.

[LDB]

We drew a game we ALL wanted to win and Wenger clearly wasn't happy about it. Who would want a fucking jumped up "reporter" questioning your decisions? The power these people have now is laughable.

You're right, nobody should be accountable to anybody about anything, ever.

[augie]

We drew a game we ALL wanted to win and Wenger clearly wasn't happy about it. Who would want a fucking jumped up "reporter" questioning your decisions? The power these people have now is laughable.

If a reporter asking a question that I and thousands of other Gooners want answered then I do

[mcdowell42]

On the Sunday supplement Oliver Kay already has said arsenal fans yesterday were disrespectful towards him,now martin lipton is licking his arse and saying its ludicrous tht fans were telling him he doesnt know what hes doing,and we will miss him when hes gone.Sam Wallace talking sense though and says its right he should be questioned,he disagrees with what ivan is earning without actually mentioning names .

[North-Bank-1987]

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sp ... Villa.html

Wenger getting grilled,arrogant fucker

After watching this Wenger represented a man that had been unchalleged in his power for so long, he actuallly didn't know what to do when put on the spot like that, and huge credit to the journo who made it clear by not giving an answer he is essentially disrepecting every Arsenal fan who dares challenge his unexplainable thoughts, none more so than the lads who made the trip up (who were fantastic as usual yesterday).

[northbank123]

We drew a game we ALL wanted to win and Wenger clearly wasn't happy about it. Who would want a fucking jumped up "reporter" questioning your decisions? The power these people have now is laughable.

If he wasn't happy about it why did he wait so long with 1 up front, and then instead of going 2 or even 3 instead switch to 0? He said in the conference that Wilshere was only there if we really needed him, he obviously therefore thought we didn't. Listen to what he says, he was really quite happy with the point.

Being able to ask a question is hardly a sign of power. That Gillian Duffy woman who asked Gordon Brown about immigration and was called a bigot in response didn't have any inherent power. Wenger and Brown respectively gave those two people 'power' by not answering their question in a respectful and honest way. Had Wenger come out with his usual bollocks about Giroud looking tired and us needing a change of shape etc etc then the fans may have grumbled but the press wouldn't have picked up on it like this. It's a storm entirely of his own creation.

For once I actually completely agree with the reporters' questioning. Claiming he doesn't have to explain his decisions to the reporters is one (childish) thing, but rubbishing the views of the travelling fans is another. Even Ferguson got hammered when he refused to field a question about playing Lindegaard ahead of de Gea at Benfica last year. Why should Wenger be immune from criticism as he obviously thinks he is? Presumably you agree with his repeated assessment that unless you've managed for a few decades you're not qualified to have an opinion on football?

[ThomasMitchell]

... He needs a win at Everton or it will really be the beginning of the end !

He (and we) need(s) four international standard players (GK, LB, DM, CF) for the squad and the perspective to appoint a vociferous, talented, independent young coach as both a public and internal foil.

1. Giving that man any money is a pointless exercise as he will not buy the right players - and in the outside chance he did, he would play them in the wrong position or suck all the talent out of them as he as so often in the recent past.
2. The notion that he would accept the introduction of a 'talented, independent young coach' is just laughable - the press conference last night was evidence of that. No one challenges the Dear Leader.

The conference was a total embarrassment to him but more importantly to our Club. It had all the hallmarks of a man who has been allowed too much power and is never questioned by anyone. The last thing we need is to keep him in situ and think that throwing money at him will solve the problem. We are passed that stage. This is a man who is no longer capable of winning, no longer capable of motivating and no longer capable of behaving in a rational way. Things will not improve at our Club until he is gone far away and we can begin to deconstruct the whole Wenger Empire that has slowly begun to destroy the Club.

[Bradywasking]

Just saw post match press conference and it was embarrassing. If you question the rights of a reporter to question you on a decision (based on the fact that you have more experience than said reporter) then you are questioning the rights of anybody who hasn't your managerial experience to question your decision. This is Kenny Dalglish's last days at Liverpool being repeated. The difficult questions are met with arrogance, sarcasm and venom.
However many Arsenal fans that traveled to Villa Park yesterday along with the rest of us have every right to question what is wrong with our club.So have the media, obviously we have suffered more than most over the years because of bad journalism, but yesterday the questions were hitting but not unreasonable. If Arsene Wenger does not have to justify his decision making to anybody who hasn't 30 years managerial experience the heaven help us. Maybe that is the root of the problem, he is so powerful within the club and the club has a board who are so unambitious that Wenger doesn't ever have to answer questions.
Yesterday's press conference has me torn between whether it was delusional or arrogant. Think it's maybe both, with arrogance the primary trait.

[SteveO 35]

On the Sunday supplement Oliver Kay already has said arsenal fans yesterday were disrespectful towards him,now martin lipton is licking his arse and saying its ludicrous tht fans were telling him he doesnt know what hes doing,and we will miss him when hes gone.Sam Wallace talking sense though and says its right he should be questioned,he disagrees with what ivan is earning without actually mentioning names .

Patrick Barclay will probably want to bring back the death penalty if anyone was proven to be disrespectful to Arsene.

Surely our beloved chairman is only a day or so away from speaking out again about how lucky we are to have the man that has worked in football for 30 years and what a bunch of ungrateful morons we all are

I will piss myself when the contract extension gets granted in the Summmer. This thread will go into meltdown

There's only one Arsene Wenger

When will everyone wake up and realise how difficult it is to compete with the other heavyweights challenging for the top 4 like West Brom and Everton

[northbank123]

Just saw post match press conference and it was embarrassing. If you question the rights of a reporter to question you on a decision (based on the fact that you have more experience than said reporter) then you are questioning the rights of anybody who hasn't your managerial experience to question your decision. This is Kenny Dalglish's last days at Liverpool being repeated. The difficult questions are met with arrogance, sarcasm and venom.
However many Arsenal fans that traveled to Villa Park yesterday along with the rest of us have every right to question what is wrong with our club.So have the media, obviously we have suffered more than most over the years because of bad journalism, but yesterday the questions were hitting but not unreasonable. If Arsene Wenger does not have to justify his decision making to anybody who hasn't 30 years managerial experience the heaven help us. Maybe that is the root of the problem, he is so powerful within the club and the club has a board who are so unambitious that Wenger doesn't ever have to answer questions.
Yesterday's press conference has me torn between whether it was delusional or arrogant. Think it's maybe both, with arrogance the primary trait.

Absolutely mate, worrying comparison. The only difference is that amongst all the embarrassment Kenny was always highly respectful to the club's supporters. Wenger made his views clear: he doesn't give a fuck what we think and we don't have a clue.

[Vinny1967]

He looks under pressure and won't be happy with the fans yesterday. He looked a cornered man in the press conf.
Fair play to the away fans I have to say. They pay their money and they are entitled to express their feelings.
He is coming under more pressure now from the press and the fans and it will be interesting to see how it unfolds.
By the same token it is results driven and the team are so obviously underperforming, so a lot will depend on the next few results.

[burg hohenzollern]

1st time at Villa park yesterday. Had a couple of beers in a real ale pub in Birmingham and got talking to a couple of Villa fans - they were fine. Then headed off to the Witton Arms, loved the song about the Judas.
Read the comments made by AW in the press conference in disbelief. Surely evidence of a man who thinks he is answerable to no-one and has far too much power.
He cannot motivate players and is tactically naive. I do honestly believe it would be in the interests of the club not to qualify for the CL.

[northbank123]

He looks under pressure and won't be happy with the fans yesterday. He looked a cornered man in the press conf.
Fair play to the away fans I have to say. They pay their money and they are entitled to express their feelings.
He is coming under more pressure now from the press and the fans and it will be interesting to see how it unfolds.
By the same token it is results driven and the team are so obviously underperforming, so a lot will depend on the next few results.

Go on Twitter, and type in Wenger. With no exaggeration, every single one of the tweets except those from Piers Morgan are about how Arsene Knows Best, and the 'fans' are absolutely delighted that he told the media where to go. Apparently it was the away fans that are highly disrespectful and don't know what they're doing.

When a man can behave as he has and did particularly last night and yet be defended is beyond me. He could come out next week and say that he spiked Princess Diana's driver and orchestrated 9/11 and there would still be people who would jump to his defence because she deserved it for being so mouthy etc.

The club is a dictatorship.

[Natural Born Gooner]

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sp ... Villa.html

Wenger getting grilled,arrogant fucker

Absolutely embarrassing. He's also playing with real fire, talking to journos like that, as they've given him an easier ride than most. The look in his eyes, the terse responses just show how rattled he is, and that he was just expecting people to accept the current predicament that we're in. He has severe delusions of grandeur and starting to come back and bite him on his arse.

Tbh I don't want him anywhere near the transfer fund, I wouldn't trust him with a fiver found round the back of the sofa.

[Vinny1967]

He looks under pressure and won't be happy with the fans yesterday. He looked a cornered man in the press conf.
Fair play to the away fans I have to say. They pay their money and they are entitled to express their feelings.
He is coming under more pressure now from the press and the fans and it will be interesting to see how it unfolds.
By the same token it is results driven and the team are so obviously underperforming, so a lot will depend on the next few results.

Go on Twitter, and type in Wenger. With no exaggeration, every single one of the tweets except those from Piers Morgan are about how Arsene Knows Best, and the 'fans' are absolutely delighted that he told the media where to go. Apparently it was the away fans that are highly disrespectful and don't know what they're doing.

When a man can behave as he has and did particularly last night and yet be defended is beyond me. He could come out next week and say that he spiked Princess Diana's driver and orchestrated 9/11 and there would still be people who would jump to his defence because she deserved it for being so mouthy etc.

The club is a dictatorship.

Don't use Twitter thankfully
I think everyone is entitled to their opinion and as I say the away fans were entitled to express their's.
The fact is that if we were successful I don't think the majority would care whether the club is a dictatorship or not.
As I say the criticism is increasing and will be interesting to see how he reacts. He is a very proud man and won't take too kindly to the criticism that seems to be building towards him.

His comments at the press conference are interesting and he looks cornered. He is entitled to his opinion as well and some could say he could be more mindful of the fans. Some could say he owes no one an explanation. We had a chance near the end with Arshavin, Coq involved in and nearly put thru Gervinho. There are very fine lines.