BSM March before Swansea

[georgeknows89]

It can only be about 1 thing - Stan the Man not being the right man as custodian of our beloved AFC.

The board are appointed by the shareholders/owners so you can't sack the board or indeed sack the manager , only the majority shareholders/ owners can do that.

Kroenke supports Gazidis , Tom Fox and all the others appointed and fully supports Wenger and his model.

The march or any protest can only have real impact if it clearly demonstrates it is not happy with the existing owners/ directors/ management infrastructure irrespective of whether that includes the team manager ie Wenger or not.

BSM have the oportunity to express their negative thoughts towards KKE and positive PR and support to Usmanov and Red & White on the march but my understanding and belief is they will bottle it on the day . They could turn up and wave Russian /Uzbek flags and banners in support of red & white or spank the yank propoganda but I just don't see I happening

[Reg Niseth]

The BSM have always maintained any protests are aimed at the board.

The decision to organise a march was due to the disrespect and contempt shown by the board at the AGM. Some fans groups get to meet Gazadis and put their concerns to him . . . but he ignores them . . . and the silent majority just sit there and accept it whilst sitting behind keyboards . . . and the club ignores them as well.

This is the opportunity to show the board that we do not accept the way they are running the club. They are utlimately responsible for everything.

The vast majority oif Arsenal accept there is a problem at our club . . . what divides them is where to aportion blame.

For us it's the head of the snake. Kroenke, Gazadais and his cronies.

We feel its desrepsectful to ignore the second largest shareholder and will campaign for them to be invited on the board.

But we are not in either camp. We want is best for the club . . . and personally the club are the fans. The people on the board may have the shares . . . but they operate because we allow them to.

We'll not be parading with Uzbek flags, but we will ask for R&W to be represented.

RA were accused of being puppets for teh club with their anti-Usmanc banner. But unless someone from R&W contacts us directly with their vision of the club . . . we could not possibly put full weight behind them . . . we will however, continue to ask that they have a representative on board.

We are there to support the aims of our fellow fans. In an ideal world we wouldn't have any one person as a major shareholder. One thing for sure georgeknows89 is we will not bottle it on the day . . . and you should know that.

The problem we have is that some fans seem to think we can't think for ourselves and the whole protest has been orchestarted by the media and R&W . . . well that's fucking bollox. those that have been with us from teh start know that

[SteveO 35]

Well said Reg and good luck with it

What did happen to Ivan's "complete review of ticketing arrangements". Patronising, slimy corporate ass.

I don't have any issue with what the BSM are doing and admire your tenacity. The issue for me is that all the while the 67% majority shareholder is there, he can treat us all with contempt and continues to do so. Maybe I have "given up" in so much as I refuse to give him any of my own money and therefore have stopped doing something that's been part of my life since I was a little kid i.e. going to watch my team on Saturdays.

Hope you get something in return for your efforts, but sadly until Jimmy Krankee has sold up I fear the worst

[Vinny1967]

The BSM have always maintained any protests are aimed at the board.

The decision to organise a march was due to the disrespect and contempt shown by the board at the AGM. Some fans groups get to meet Gazadis and put their concerns to him . . . but he ignores them . . . and the silent majority just sit there and accept it whilst sitting behind keyboards . . . and the club ignores them as well.

This is the opportunity to show the board that we do not accept the way they are running the club. They are utlimately responsible for everything.

The vast majority oif Arsenal accept there is a problem at our club . . . what divides them is where to aportion blame.

For us it's the head of the snake. Kroenke, Gazadais and his cronies.

We feel its desrepsectful to ignore the second largest shareholder and will campaign for them to be invited on the board.

But we are not in either camp. We want is best for the club . . . and personally the club are the fans. The people on the board may have the shares . . . but they operate because we allow them to.

We'll not be parading with Uzbek flags, but we will ask for R&W to be represented.

RA were accused of being puppets for teh club with their anti-Usmanc banner. But unless someone from R&W contacts us directly with their vision of the club . . . we could not possibly put full weight behind them . . . we will however, continue to ask that they have a representative on board.

We are there to support the aims of our fellow fans. In an ideal world we wouldn't have any one person as a major shareholder. One thing for sure georgeknows89 is we will not bottle it on the day . . . and you should know that.

The problem we have is that some fans seem to think we can't think for ourselves and the whole protest has been orchestarted by the media and R&W . . . well that's fucking bollox. those that have been with us from teh start know that

Best of luck with it Reg and hope you get a great turnout.
Admire what you guys are doing.

[augie]

Any chance someone can put up a live link or even record the march and put it up on here later that evening ? As I have said before, I cant be there but would like to wish Reg and all the guys in BSM the very best of luck for the march.....hope you get a huge turnout and send a firm message to the c**ts running our club

[storrmin571]

Reg - Apologies if you have said this and I have missed it. Has anyone from BSM met with R&W?

[Reg Niseth]

Reg - Apologies if you have said this and I have missed it. Has anyone from BSM met with R&W?

No

[Chippy]

As a mod on the site I'd like to formally ask Georgeknows89 who he is and what his connection is with R&W, cos at the moment your posts seem a little bit sinister.

[QuartzGooner]

Cannot see the point in a "Wenger Out" march, even though I want Wenger to resign in the summer.
Wenger makes the club money, so he will go nowhere unless he chooses to, or very unlikely, is involved in some sort of sack-worthy scandal.

Far as I am concerned, until we get an owner who is prepared to push for success on the pitch more than Kroenke does, we need a "Kroenke Out" march.

My gripe is failure to replace players we have sold to the extent I want.

I know we have to pay off £20M per season stadium debt, and that most of our profit comes from player sales, and property income (now about to dry up).

But even so, we continually fail to improve on the pitch, and so are shelling out money on tickets to watch a squad that cannot compete for the title, at least until the balance of stadium debt is held in the bank.

Yet the board/owner continue to raise ticket prices!!!
I consider that a disgrace.

[northbank123]

As a mod on the site I'd like to formally ask Georgeknows89 who he is and what his connection is with R&W, cos at the moment your posts seem a little bit sinister.

If he told the source of his secret information then he would no longer be ITK

[georgeknows89]

Chippy,

Who is anyone and everyone on this site ?????

Quartz has said exactly what I said, needs to be ante Kroenke, which means pro Usmanov

Nothing sinister about what i said- as have said before on this and other sites I support Red & White and don't hide it and am home away and europe fan 95% games and have been for 35 years.

I repeat what i have said publicly and privately to some mods- I am able to have dialogue with R and W but at the moment the timing is not right for them to have direct dialogue with any of the fans groups in an official capacity and as you would expect, AU hasn't got where he is by being stupid.

They support the march and will have people there but will not exactly walk around with lapel badges but you have to appreciate that after the Red Action "mis judgement" banner against then they are wary of anyone and everyone.

From following the like of angry islington , darren on twitter,AST, AISA, Swiss Rambler etc etc and with people on every fan site , they don't miss a trick and have eyes and ears everywhere but until they are in a position to influence matters at the club they likewise will not pin there marker on any particular fan group as want to be friends with all sectors of fans.

Perhaps my comment about bottling it next saturday was badly phrased for which i apologise but the point i am making , is that Kelvin and BSM clearly state that they want Red & White to have board representation so before IG type cups of tea and vodka take place surely its not unreasonable for R & W to see if they are backed publicly in the march in some format.

Remember, R & W bought shares and invested in the club before BSM was formed and R & W will pursue with their desire to own the club even if no fan group support them at this stage.

I have nothing to hide and if want to PM to meet at Everton or in Athens to discuss further I have nothing to hide

[QuartzGooner]

Quartz has said exactly what I said, needs to be ante Kroenke, which means pro Usmanov

With respect George, whilst I want Kroenke out, at this stage I am neither pro nor anti Usmanov, nor any other alternative owner who may emerge.

Before I would support any potential new owner, I and others have questions to ask, amongst them:

1.) Will he draw a dividend on the shares?

2.) Will he put an interest free cash injection into the club for player purchases, or will he raise cash for player purchases by a new share issue?

3.) Will he lower, freeze or raise ticket prices?

4.) Will he conduct a ticket review, looking at League/Champions League only options for season tickets, for monthly repayments for season tickets, for loyalty bonuses for long time season ticket holders, for anti-tout measures and other matters?

5.) Will he continue Arsenalization of the stadium?

6.) Will he review the wage structure?

7.) Will the women's team continue?

8.) Will community/charity schemes continue?

9.) Will there be a regular meeting schedule with supporters' representatives?

[northbank123]

A worthy list of concerns Quartz, very important tbh instead of just looking at a bloke's wealth and making a judgement on his character based on some hack journalism.

Do you really see 5 and 7 as big concerns though?

[QuartzGooner]

5 and 7 not as important to me as the other points but to some people are important.

I want a new owner who wants excellence in all areas of the club, and that includes women's and youth teams, community initiatives and so on, as well as my main focus on the first team.

[northbank123]

Fair enough mate. I share the view on the importance of youth because of the 1st team impact but couldn't give a flying fuck about women's football. Very few women's teams are affiliated with the men's club in the same way as us, makes no odds to me if we announced we were scrapping the ladies.

The standard is an absolute embarrassment.