As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
samstrange wrote:Agreed, there is always the danger of fumbling the catch tho?
my thinking is he dont wana drop it when he hits the deck so he just fucks it of
also when defending corners why do we have all 11 pklayers back, if you leave 2 on the halfway line then they have to leave 3 up with them plus you have a better option with the counter attack
When George Graham won the league title 2 times in 3 years, I doubt anyone would've wanted him to leave. But when he went, we emerged into an even greater club. Whilst Wenger has been awesome, I don't think the club would fall apart if he left.
If another manager came in and failed to win the league in his first 4 seasons, then he'd match Wenger's last 4 years. Not much pressure on that basis.
Bring Back Pires wrote:When George Graham won the league title 2 times in 3 years, I doubt anyone would've wanted him to leave. But when he went, we emerged into an even greater club. Whilst Wenger has been awesome, I don't think the club would fall apart if he left.
If another manager came in and failed to win the league in his first 4 seasons, then he'd match Wenger's last 4 years. Not much pressure on that basis.
If a new manager came in then I would agree but we know what Arsene has and can achieve. I think that this talk is too early. If I owe you £20 at the end of next season then you might be right now...it is too early
Had Almunia caught the ball from the corner that ultimately lead to the equaliser it would never have happened. He punched a ball under absolutely no pressure giving Chelsea the ball straight back. That's the difference between quality like Lehmann and a clown like Almunia. I can't blame him for the second goal - he came close to bailing out Laurel and Hardy in front of him.
Yes, Wenger has been great. But in the past four seasons, all we've won is the FA Cup. Does anyone find this acceptable?
In my opinion, I can't see this changing anytime soon with Wenger in charge. I think that Wenger has the mental capacity to coach a team to the title, but he seems slightly stubborn and won't sign any top name players. And that's what has cost us.
At the time, I was told that 2004/05 was a transition year. The next season, 2005/06, we left Highbury and I was told the same thing. We joined Emirates Stadium the season after in 2006/07 and the same line came up. And so it is this season. I don't find four seasons "in transition" to be acceptable. Considering that we were unbeaten in 2003/04, I think it's ludicrous that I'm even having this conversation. There was no reason that we couldn't have gone on to be the greatest club/team in Europe, but Wenger said goodbye to all our top name players and signed a bunch of kids, assuming that his knowledge would be enough to win us the league. Well I'm sorry, but he's wrong. Four years is long enough, and if Wenger stays, I can see the same thing happening next year and the year after.
And for those of you say I'm "talking rubbish" and leaving it at that, at least give some constructive criticism, or we're all just wasting our time.
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>Lethal~Prodigy< wrote:tell us who should take over then almighty genius ?
I'm not saying that I have all the answers. But it's not my job to find a replacement, and to suggest that Wenger is the only decent manager left in the world is ridiculous.
When Wenger joined us, nobody had even heard of him. On that basis, there's many more that could be as equally successful.
Fucking hell, first you want Wenger to leave, now Almunia should be dropped!
You don't HAVE to make scapegoats every single time we lose a game. You don't HAVE to call for someone's head.
We lost. Simple as that. We weren't good enough.
Yes their goal was offside, but overall we just weren't good enough today.
Wenger and the team didn't do alot wrong today, we just weren't good enough.
I just don't think there is any need to jerk the knee and go over the top about what needs changing.
