Wenger Out Banner

[georgeknows89]

I admire all the efforts but just can't see it working anytime in a season whilst we are competing for a trophy in any format.

With '4th' CL and FA Cup all still technically possible the AKB's will remain in numbers and always with enough that want to turn violent, or even use the banners as an excuse to.

Part of the problem is that the younger generation that want a ruck do not have the opportunities that those of us that we're around in the "'old days" that the 70's - late 80's did and seize this as a reason , albeit with their own fans.

I travelled on Herds coaches and watched the Herd in full flow (emphasis on watched, out of choice ) but all fans were united then and were a closer knit community.

At Brighton yesterday I sensed and experienced an increasing us and them interspersed amongst the c road which is getting worrying.

At both equalisers it was like a "i told you so " tone appeared from some but victory then makes it 3 2 to the AKB'S and for a banner to appear then is and was pointless.

I don't like this but can honestly only see the effect of this type of banner when we are out of both cups and the reverse of St Totteringham day takes place.

Wenger is Kroenke perfect manager to suit his model and although this post ineveitably crosses over with the Board etc one it is still clear that to remove Wenger we will need to remove Kroenke or even worse Wenger will be involved in picking his successor , no doubt just passin his economics degree at Harvard or Yale

Good luck to all waving the banner and don't give up but yes plan b or c deffo needed

[YellowRibbon]

What I wrote on herd forum regarding today's banner. Worrying

Kicked off during second off in front us don't know why. Looked like father and son. Father got taken out. Banner held after game. Again kicked off. Wasn't shirt mongs either. Looked like normal lads given to them signing 1 wenger. Surprised and shocked me to be honest. Disappointing. To be fair didn't understand why putting banner up after game when all players gone off pitch.

Father and son being confronted by others that is. Not father and son at it with each other. And I don't mean a young kid. Son about 20 father 50s at a guess

[Glitch33]

The AKB's always have optimism on their side. They can always say "wait until the end of the season". Over the past 6 seasons we have won the virtual trophy and the Arsenal Plc PR machine and Wenger rhetoric and bargain basement buys kick in to keep the fans on the hook.

Wenger and the Board have got away with it for too long. Mobilising a co-ordinated Wenger out campaign is a massive undertaking.

The best way to start the ball rolling is to start making feelings public on a small but noticeable scale and see what support is forthcoming from others. A significant number of fans are not happy but have no outlet.

On that basis I support the Banner Boys.

It takes some nerve to unfurl that banner and you can always agonise over when is the right time to do it.

Until we get back to some sort of consistency on the pitch and back to properly contending for trophies then any time is the right time to show the banner.

[augie]

In hindsight the "buy buy or bye bye" banner would have been better for this week

[mikeyb772001]

What I wrote on herd forum regarding today's banner. Worrying

Kicked off during second off in front us don't know why. Looked like father and son. Father got taken out. Banner held after game. Again kicked off. Wasn't shirt mongs either. Looked like normal lads given to them signing 1 wenger. Surprised and shocked me to be honest. Disappointing. To be fair didn't understand why putting banner up after game when all players gone off pitch.

Father and son being confronted by others that is. Not father and son at it with each other. And I don't mean a young kid. Son about 20 father 50s at a guess

The father , his son and their mates took it really bad when a few of the youngers slated santos as he left the pitch. Punch or 2 thrown so i went over to help as it looked like some of my mates . fucking bullies end of teh day, didnt see them giving it when numbers were even

what i dont get is these people have to resort to violence . Always teh fucking same

[Glitch33]

In hindsight the "buy buy or bye bye" banner would have been better for this week

Perhaps it is another to add the armoury along with "4th is not a trophy" and use them when the situation suits.

In the January window Wenger will always moan that the "quality is not available". Therefore he has an excuse to delay yet again and keep the fans hanging on.

[augie]

I'm really beginning to despair at the state of our fanbase - is it just "recent" fans (since wenger joined) that feels that the club can't survive without wenger ? It gets right on my tits that these people seem incapable of seeing any responsibility of wenger to our decline - can they not accept that the tactics, motivation and bumper contracts are down to wenger and wenger alone ? Using the board as a buffer for wenger and suggesting that they are not releasing transfer funds (despite comments from their messiah stating that isn't the case ) surely does not excuse basic weaknesses like those I have listed ?
I would like some of those c**ts to explain to me how the results at Bradford, Norwich, villa and Southampton (to name just a few) is the fault of the board. Fact is that having a rational debate with these mongs is impossible and that should embarrass them - if they are so sure that they are right then why can't they put up logical arguments instead of resorting to violence and petty remarks ? Questioning the commitment and passion of those who want wenger out is stupid and potrays a lack of intelligence imo. I will guarantee that more of the Gooners who have put in decades supporting the club, see the need for a change of manager - some may not get as abusive as others and might be more respectful to wenker but don't mistake that for support of the man cos they too know that we have become stale and are now a club without ambition, leadership or drive

I ain't a violent man and probably wouldn't beat my way out of a wet paper bag but when I hear tales of fighting amongst Gooners then I wish I was in the middle of it too

[SWLGooner]

What I wrote on herd forum regarding today's banner. Worrying

Kicked off during second off in front us don't know why. Looked like father and son. Father got taken out. Banner held after game. Again kicked off. Wasn't shirt mongs either. Looked like normal lads given to them signing 1 wenger. Surprised and shocked me to be honest. Disappointing. To be fair didn't understand why putting banner up after game when all players gone off pitch.

Father and son being confronted by others that is. Not father and son at it with each other. And I don't mean a young kid. Son about 20 father 50s at a guess

The father , his son and their mates took it really bad when a few of the youngers slated santos as he left the pitch. Punch or 2 thrown so i went over to help as it looked like some of my mates . fucking bullies end of teh day, didnt see them giving it when numbers were even

what i dont get is these people have to resort to violence . Always teh fucking same

Do you mean Miserable kicking off at 80 minutes with the blokes in front of us?

We'd just calmed it down by FT, then the banner came out and it all went off again.

Almost nobody actually did anything about it, most just singing 'One Arsene Wenger' and mouthing off

[FreddyTheRed]

I think this image would make a perfect banner. surely even the AKB window lickers can't be offended .I think it would make a bigger impact publicly for the time being while equally putting the blame on Wenger & board.

[ThomasMitchell]

I think this image would make a perfect banner. surely even the AKB windom lickers can't be offended .I think it would make a bigger impact publicly for the time being while equally putting the blame on Wenger & board.

Problem is that it does not address the elephant in the room that is Arsene Wenger. None of the people featured in that illustration were responsible for the defeat at 4th division Bradford. One man is to blame for that (and far too many other fiascos to re-count here) and that is Wenger. We can't beat the likes of Swansea and money does not come into that - tactics, motivation and team selection do.

[herbert]

No mention of the people who are not in the wob who stuck up for the lads when it got heated after Santos got subbed and as the lads who show the banner are entitled to there opinion then those who want to sing one Arsene Wenger are entitled to theres.
my opinion is that those who want to show the banner should arrange a demonstration at home and take the banner to the main entrance of Arsenal football club.

[FreddyTheRed]

Problem is that it does not address the elephant in the room that is Arsene Wenger. None of the people featured in that illustration were responsible for the defeat at 4th division Bradford. One man is to blame for that (and far too many other fiascos to re-count here) and that is Wenger. We can't beat the likes of Swansea and money does not come into that - tactics, motivation and team selection do.

I know the deluded one is tactically inept, naive and lacks critical judgment, I wanted him gone 5yrs ago.
and im all for the wenger out banner, just think its too soon and may eventually scare off other fans who want him out, because the AKB's making a big fuss. it needs to be more appealing for the broader fanbase without losing the point.

[northbank123]

Thing is there will never be a universally popular time to show the banner.

There's no point waiting until things are so bad that even Wenger's biggest fans are questioning him.

[SWLGooner]

No mention of the people who are not in the wob who stuck up for the lads when it got heated after Santos got subbed and as the lads who show the banner are entitled to there opinion then those who want to sing one Arsene Wenger are entitled to theres.
my opinion is that those who want to show the banner should arrange a demonstration at home and take the banner to the main entrance of Arsenal football club.

That is true, great credit to them. If we are thinking of the same person it is someone we both know.

I see what you mean mate, but the problem is getting numbers, and the fact that the club will most probably ban those of us responsible from the stadium for a very long time.

[ThomasMitchell]

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