As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
armchair supporter wrote:Funny how the Wenger supporters like to put things in the 'context' of the immediate or short term.Like - we are top, how can you criticise the manage? Or - we are still in CL and FA cup cant you just be happy. JD was particularly good at this and would put Wengers years of failure in the context of a missed pen or injured player.
They conveniently disregard the 'context' of years and years of capitulation and powder-puff performances resulting in complete failure. Yet they quite like to remind us of Wengers successfull times of oh so long ago and hold them up as som kind of justification for giving Wenger a new contract.
Then theres the #flipfloppers who 'take one game at a time' and change their opinion on when to criticise and boo and when to 'just be happy were top' as it suits them from one week to the next.
Having said that, I believe everyone is entitled to their opinion. I may not agree with it but I'll fight to the death for their right to hold it.
this wenger supporter has constantly talked about the longer term sir. I believe it is you miguided souls on the wrong side of the fence that come out moreso at short term slip ups and troughs.
As you say, each to his own and we stand united on that thought.
Planning for the long-term is great and should always be one of our top priorities. But why does that excuse the complete lack of ambition shown this season (as well as the past 5-8...)? We did we not sign the striker we desperately need in the summer or in January? Why was our only signing a 31-year old perma-crocked has-been? Why the embarrassing last-ditch attempts at trying to get Kalou and Klose on loan instead of doing our homework beforehand? Why is our best finisher confined to the bench when Giroud continues to spunk away chance after chance?
Come on Steve... Wenger has continually shown he's not willing to learn from his mistakes; he needs to go.
He has done no such thing. Only in the eyes of a few miguided folk and a bunch of others who follow and have no original thought processess themselves. I've had enough of trying to be calm on here having seen another thread where supposed gooners are fcuking siding with Mourinho without clearly having looked at the whole of each presss conference and have clearly taken thigns out of context and done their sheep follow the media sheep thing because its clever to say. It isn't, it's unbelievably naive and shallow. As had been said, each to his own, but finally I can no longer come here and read such nonsense and knee-jerk reative nonsense by people whoi have long embedded themselves deep down the stupid alley - imo (obviously this is my opinion and may not necessarily be thought correct, but my opinion is what it is.
lets all bow down to the football god that is Mourinho over the best manager that we have ever yhad and has done SO much for us and our longer term future.
'ts been fun in part. good luck all
Hi Steve,
I hope the above is just a temporary hiatus. As others have said, I might not agree with your opinions but I still like to read them! You are clearly an intelligent, educated and passionate fan, and the forum would be a poorer place without you.
I must admit, as February turns to March, and we head deeper into the quagmire of difficult fixtures (and cup exists) I'm starting to hope (not believe) that the chances of him leaving in the summer steadily increase
Surely, if he was staying then the time to sign the contract was when we were top of the league and beating all those mediocre teams? He must have known the fixtures in February and March could derail us and get the fans on his back, so why risk it? - unless he's still undecided?!
I know I'm wrong and Ivan and Stan will soon be announcing the "wonderful" news of a new contract extension, but I can dream.
I agree with this 100%. If the wheels fall off, I can't see him sticking around to go a decade, 11 or 12 years without a trophy. The abuse will be massive - especially considering that the fans at the Emirates have turned on him this year.
The patience that I can see from people around me has gone. He has to win or at least challenge until the end of the year. If the wheels fall off and we are in a battle for the Virtual Trophy again, I think that there will be more boos around the Emirates and it will be 100% directed at Wenger.
For that reason, there is hope. I feel that this year is a win/win for the fans in this forum. If we win something or the wheels fall off, we will be happy at the end of this season.
Feeling a little bit jaded?
Lacking in mental strength?
Just like Wenger, when the questions are asked he disappears into his coat.
I think I know where the handbrake should go (I jest I jest
I think if wenker had of gone out and signed a good centre forward last month, then I think that he would have been cut some slack had we of finished the season potless again. Yes he would still have been hammered to some degree on tactical fcuk ups, but at least he would have been seen to be doing everything possible to try and win trophies again.
He dug his own grave and if it is painful or disrespectful to him to have to listen to the abuse/complaints/negativity then that is his own fcuking fault
I too am fighting hard to stop myself thinking that he might not be renewing his contract but with each passing day (without it being signed) I am gaining that small bit of hope - I still expect him to sign and maybe after allowing us to have that bit of hope, his signing will be an even bigger kick in the bollox
Instead of all this constant moaning, the fans need to actual vote either with their feet or by giving some abuse out in the stadium. Getting in early for the Bayern game is a good idea but we KNOW they're going to outclass us and win the tie over two legs. ALL of the energies of fans should be directed at making sure Wenger realises he's not wanted by us, who are paying for all this mediocrity. Stop bothering about the results and arguing about him - don't buy tickets or actually go in there and sing 'WE WANT WENGER OUT!!'
glenngould wrote:Instead of all this constant moaning, the fans need to actual vote either with their feet or by giving some abuse out in the stadium. Getting in early for the Bayern game is a good idea but we KNOW they're going to outclass us and win the tie over two legs. ALL of the energies of fans should be directed at making sure Wenger realises he's not wanted by us, who are paying for all this mediocrity. Stop bothering about the results and arguing about him - don't buy tickets or actually go in there and sing 'WE WANT WENGER OUT!!'
As much as I hate the man with a vengence, and I do, I would rather if the fans booed or chanted "we want change" instead of that - of course if I thought that wenker, the board and the media didnt understand that the chanting is being aimed at the manager anyway, then I would opt for the more direct abuse I always liked the "you should have spent the money" or chants like that because it is aimed at wenger directly but wenker would point to the ozil signing now as if to say "I bought 1 expensive player so what more do you want"
Personally I find the opposition chants of "arsene wenger we want you to stay" both amusing and embarrassing - on one hand it is totally ridiculing the man and the job he is doing but on the other hand it isnt reflecting great on us either Whatever about how he takes the booing from his own fans, you would think that chants like that from the opposition fans would let wenger how shite a job he is doing
glenngould wrote:Instead of all this constant moaning, the fans need to actual vote either with their feet or by giving some abuse out in the stadium. Getting in early for the Bayern game is a good idea but we KNOW they're going to outclass us and win the tie over two legs. ALL of the energies of fans should be directed at making sure Wenger realises he's not wanted by us, who are paying for all this mediocrity. Stop bothering about the results and arguing about him - don't buy tickets or actually go in there and sing 'WE WANT WENGER OUT!!'
As much as I hate the man with a vengence, and I do, I would rather if the fans booed or chanted "we want change" instead of that - of course if I thought that wenker, the board and the media didnt understand that the chanting is being aimed at the manager anyway, then I would opt for the more direct abuse I always liked the "you should have spent the money" or chants like that because it is aimed at wenger directly but wenker would point to the ozil signing now as if to say "I bought 1 expensive player so what more do you want"
Personally I find the opposition chants of "arsene wenger we want you to stay" both amusing and embarrassing - on one hand it is totally ridiculing the man and the job he is doing but on the other hand it isnt reflecting great on us either Whatever about how he takes the booing from his own fans, you would think that chants like that from the opposition fans would let wenger how shite a job he is doing
Are opposition fans who sing "Arsene Wenger, we want you to stay" AKBs or WOBs?
Personally I think something like "we want change" is just vague and will soon be forgotten about next time we put together a decent run. Just another mild expression of general discontent, like how the Ivan Gazidis chanting heralded nothing at all.
glenngould wrote:Instead of all this constant moaning, the fans need to actual vote either with their feet or by giving some abuse out in the stadium. Getting in early for the Bayern game is a good idea but we KNOW they're going to outclass us and win the tie over two legs. ALL of the energies of fans should be directed at making sure Wenger realises he's not wanted by us, who are paying for all this mediocrity. Stop bothering about the results and arguing about him - don't buy tickets or actually go in there and sing 'WE WANT WENGER OUT!!'
As much as I hate the man with a vengence, and I do, I would rather if the fans booed or chanted "we want change" instead of that - of course if I thought that wenker, the board and the media didnt understand that the chanting is being aimed at the manager anyway, then I would opt for the more direct abuse I always liked the "you should have spent the money" or chants like that because it is aimed at wenger directly but wenker would point to the ozil signing now as if to say "I bought 1 expensive player so what more do you want"
Personally I find the opposition chants of "arsene wenger we want you to stay" both amusing and embarrassing - on one hand it is totally ridiculing the man and the job he is doing but on the other hand it isnt reflecting great on us either Whatever about how he takes the booing from his own fans, you would think that chants like that from the opposition fans would let wenger how shite a job he is doing
Thing is, the negative chanting can only get us so far before some idiot reports you on the text number or tells a steward. A few games ago me and some of the lads in the next row were trying to get a chant going about wanting the old man to die of syphilis, but couldn't quite put a tune together.
I think it needs to be stronger and more focused than just "Wenger Out" anyway, anyone know the name of his daughter?
Robin_L wrote: A few games ago me and some of the lads in the next row were trying to get a chant going about wanting the old man to die of syphilis, but couldn't quite put a tune together.
Frankly, I'm surprised you can put a sentence together.
Robin_L wrote: A few games ago me and some of the lads in the next row were trying to get a chant going about wanting the old man to die of syphilis, but couldn't quite put a tune together.
Frankly, I'm surprised you can put a sentence together.
Robin_L wrote:A few games ago me and some of the lads in the next row were trying to get a chant going about wanting the old man to die of syphilis, but couldn't quite put a tune together.
I think it needs to be stronger and more focused than just "Wenger Out" anyway, anyone know the name of his daughter?
That french rapper bird, she's got syphillis
that's why her fanny tastes like licorice
aniseed ball instead of a clitoris
I hope Arsene eats her
Robin_L wrote:A few games ago me and some of the lads in the next row were trying to get a chant going about wanting the old man to die of syphilis, but couldn't quite put a tune together.
I think it needs to be stronger and more focused than just "Wenger Out" anyway, anyone know the name of his daughter?
That french rapper bird, she's got syphillis
that's why her fanny tastes like licorice
aniseed ball instead of a clitoris
I hope Arsene eats her
No excuses now Robin, off you go!
You were being a sarcastic bastard though, right?
That would be hands down the best chant this league's ever heard, can only applaud you for that effort!
Alert Red Action, that can be the signature tune for our 'singing section'
I always liked the "you should have spent the money" or chants like that because it is aimed at wenger directly but wenker would point to the ozil signing now as if to say "I bought 1 expensive player so what more do you want" 
