As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
rodders999 wrote:Kroenke or Gazidis don't even know who Jurgen Klopp is FFS. The prospect of those two muppets being responsible for recruiting a new manager fills me with almost as much dread as the prospect of L'Asshole extending his
Simply cannot agree with that - whoever comes in and whenever they come in, will be under pressure and wont be granted the same leeway as wenker has. If a new manager comes in and performs like wenker is, then the akb and board will have him out of our club like a shot but those same people would have no problem allowing another 3 years of this with wenker as manager
Augie, I agree that the new man won't be allowed the same scope as Wenger but my worry lies with the fact that we will have to entrust the two yank gimps with the task of hiring that new manager. You'd still have space on the back of a postage stamp after writing down their combined football knowledge on it and I for one would not trust them on making a competent appointment.
Do you lads honestly think the Board will decide Wenger's replacement??? Wenger will decide Wenger's replacement.
good article this.
looks like the press are finally starting to put the boot in.
yes, there's a few articles out there this morning that have finally picked up on the "no tactics, no preparation" approach, this is another one and very damning it is too :
The most worrying aspect of Arsenal's away day disasters this season has been Arsene Wenger's tactics. It's hard to get into a tactics territory as managers, coaches and players know far more about formations than journalists, but even to the relatively untrained eye, the way Arsenal were set up at Everton, Chelsea and Liverpool raised serious doubts about whether Wenger had much of a gameplan.
Arsenal conceded 14 goals in three must-win games, defended badly, were outwitted and out-thought. Those defeats have sent their season into a downward spiral.
note how carefully worded that was - it totally negates the "30 years in football" and "zero managed games" meme that the senile old duffer has been trotting out...
Roberto Martinez opted to play Lukaku on the right side and, with the clueless Nacho Monreal up against him, the Belgium international ran riot. For the second time in Liverpool this season, the Spanish fullback was exposed by a tactical decision that left him horribly lacking support up against a striker with pace and power.
As Brendan Rodgers did with Luis Suarez, Martinez showed Wenger that a manager must be flexible in his system. Having surpassed 1,000 matches in the Arsenal dugout, Wenger is most certainly from the old school. At Goodison he looked positively ancient in terms of tactical nous.
the stale, outdated theme is fainlly, finally being recognised.
rodders999 wrote:Kroenke or Gazidis don't even know who Jurgen Klopp is FFS. The prospect of those two muppets being responsible for recruiting a new manager fills me with almost as much dread as the prospect of L'Asshole extending his
Simply cannot agree with that - whoever comes in and whenever they come in, will be under pressure and wont be granted the same leeway as wenker has. If a new manager comes in and performs like wenker is, then the akb and board will have him out of our club like a shot but those same people would have no problem allowing another 3 years of this with wenker as manager
Augie, I agree that the new man won't be allowed the same scope as Wenger but my worry lies with the fact that we will have to entrust the two yank gimps with the task of hiring that new manager. You'd still have space on the back of a postage stamp after writing down their combined football knowledge on it and I for one would not trust them on making a competent appointment.
^^^^^This is the other problem we have -- even when he eventually goes - there is no one at the club with ANY knowledge of the game...they are all business men...money making business men and we IS F*cked.
If we were to win the Cup, Wenger will arrogantly lord it over the fans, and not only will he proceed to sign a new contract, but will also expect us not to demand trophies again because he'll feel he has 'delivered' by bringing the Cup home.
It really is a catch 22 situation and part of me is thinking it may be for the best that we bottle the FA Cup.
rodders999 wrote:
Augie, I agree that the new man won't be allowed the same scope as Wenger but my worry lies with the fact that we will have to entrust the two yank gimps with the task of hiring that new manager. You'd still have space on the back of a postage stamp after writing down their combined football knowledge on it and I for one would not trust them on making a competent appointment.
I would not include Gazidis in that at all.
He worked with the MLS for ages and has been with us for a few years now.
He was a football fan before he worked with the MLS, and a friend of mine has played against him in a game and says he is not bad.
Just listening to 5 Live and the Dutch coach Louis van Gaal ( I think it was) absolutely ripped into Wenger and his training methods, saying that the pre-season is totally wrong - too intense - which means that the players not only run more risk of picking up injuries, but that their fitness levels peak and begin to drop after 3 months.
I know there is bad blood between the two of them, after AW criticised Van Gaal when van judas was playing for us and got injured in a friendly for Holland.
He also said that Ramsey should never have taken so long to get over a thigh strain and part of the reason was, due to the intensive pre-season - Ramsey having missed the previous season AND the way Arsenal's medical team bring players back into playing level of fitness.
He also said that when Wenger arrived he was merely bringing in the training methods and other health training techniques - diet/training schedules etc - that most of europe had been doing for years before, he then went on to say that when a 'revolutionary' (which is what many prem managers etc saw AW as when he changed the way prem teams trained and played) first comes - their ideas only last about 10 years before they are surpassed by newer ideas etc...which ties in with what has happened at Arsenal.
The bloke sounds like a right nasty *word censored* and it was obvious he saw this as a chance to stick the boot into Aw, even so, there also seemed to be some substance in 'some' of what he was saying.
OneBardGooner wrote:
The bloke sounds like a right nasty *word censored* and it was obvious he saw this as a chance to stick the boot into Aw, even so, there also seemed to be some substance in 'some' of what he was saying.
no not Van Gaal , it was Holland's physio/ fitness trainer Verheijen ?
“For Roberto Martinez, fitness is an integral part of football, like tactics and technique,” Verheijen said. “Tactics and technique are integral parts of football, so they are trained in football training by football coaches. But so is fitness, so Roberto Martinez is responsible for the fitness training of Everton.”
This means that the fitness work is specifically geared to football, and not separate from it. “Martinez defines fitness as maintaining his playing style for 90 minutes,” Verheijen explained. “So you cannot start running around the pitch, you have to start playing the playing style for more minutes in training. If you say fitness is aerobic capacity, then all of a sudden fitness becomes non-contextual and you end up in non-football exercises like running around a pitch or running uphill, and fitness becomes isolated from football.”
This is what Verheijen believes happens at other clubs, and he ascribed Arsenal’s problems to such outdated methods of conditioning. “There is a pattern at Arsenal, and it repeats itself every year, it is a no-brainer.”
A guy rang talkshite earlier when they were discussing Wenger, and said he loves Wenger, and said he does a brilliant job, and how could we ever compete with the clubs with money, and when it was pointed out to the caller that Liverpool are challenging without money, his response was the following "Liverpool were challenging in 1989, and you know who beat them to the title then, Arsenal ". That is the mind set of the AKB
OneBardGooner wrote:
The bloke sounds like a right nasty *word censored* and it was obvious he saw this as a chance to stick the boot into Aw, even so, there also seemed to be some substance in 'some' of what he was saying.
no not Van Gaal , it was Holland's physio/ fitness trainer Verheijen ?
“For Roberto Martinez, fitness is an integral part of football, like tactics and technique,” Verheijen said. “Tactics and technique are integral parts of football, so they are trained in football training by football coaches. But so is fitness, so Roberto Martinez is responsible for the fitness training of Everton.”
This means that the fitness work is specifically geared to football, and not separate from it. “Martinez defines fitness as maintaining his playing style for 90 minutes,” Verheijen explained. “So you cannot start running around the pitch, you have to start playing the playing style for more minutes in training. If you say fitness is aerobic capacity, then all of a sudden fitness becomes non-contextual and you end up in non-football exercises like running around a pitch or running uphill, and fitness becomes isolated from football.”
This is what Verheijen believes happens at other clubs, and he ascribed Arsenal’s problems to such outdated methods of conditioning. “There is a pattern at Arsenal, and it repeats itself every year, it is a no-brainer.”
And 10% blame the wenker out brigade Yeah like it's my fault that the *word censored* bought no striker, or continues to play with only 1 up front or continues to play a system that hangs his full backs out to dry every single fcuking game I swear to god the wankers that can see no further than wenker, are a waste of oxygen and we would be doing a great service to society if we could organise a cull of them
BFG4 wrote:A guy rang talkshite earlier when they were discussing Wenger, and said he loves Wenger, and said he does a brilliant job, and how could we ever compete with the clubs with money, and when it was pointed out to the caller that Liverpool are challenging without money, his response was the following "Liverpool were challenging in 1989, and you know who beat them to the title then, Arsenal ". That is the mind set of the AKB
What the fuck has that got to do with anything? The mind boggles at what goes through their heads. Unless he thinks le Cock was the manager then
Btw can I just say that the recent practice of blaming our medical dept should be halted with immediate effect - yes they are shite and there are serious issues there that need to be addressed, but right now the issue is being used to distract people from the real problem....wenker. Wenger hasn't changed his formation because of injuries. Wenger hasn't changed his gameplan because of injuries. Injuries are not the reason why we have a lamppost, a postman and a Danish lard arse as our only striking options. Getting all those injured players back will not give us the necessary steel in the middle of the park. These are all problems that have been created and nurtured by le cock and it is very convenient that the akb have now stopped defending wenker but have replaced it by blaming the medical problems - defending wenker without even mentioning his name
Wenger will decide Wenger's replacement. 
