World Cup 2014 Squads and Games

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DB10GOONER wrote:In fairness there isn't enough interlull level guile there and they'd be beaten easily by cynical experienced teams, but I take your point about the team selections totally. I'd also add that the media has too much influence. Rooney (just as an example) could be absolute shit all season and if he was dropped the media would slaughter the Ingerland manager.
DB: Rooney's been playing like a blind cripple for England since Euro '04 ended. Yet the kicker is no matter how stains he is, usually found lolloping around like a hippo with a fridge up his arse, he will still be an automatic selection.

Play for 'big' club = in you go

Score 90 goals for 'unfashionable' team = have two caps and fuck off.

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officepest wrote:
DB10GOONER wrote:In fairness there isn't enough interlull level guile there and they'd be beaten easily by cynical experienced teams, but I take your point about the team selections totally. I'd also add that the media has too much influence. Rooney (just as an example) could be absolute shit all season and if he was dropped the media would slaughter the Ingerland manager.
DB: Rooney's been playing like a blind cripple for England since Euro '04 ended. Yet the kicker is no matter how stains he is, usually found lolloping around like a hippo with a fridge up his arse, he will still be an automatic selection.

Play for 'big' club = in you go

Score 90 goals for 'unfashionable' team = have two caps and fuck off.
exactly - and 'lolloping around like a hippo with a fridge up his arse' is exactly what we'll get from rooney, gerrard (33) and lampard (35) in the heat and high altitude.

rooney will sweat for 55 minutes then get sent off.

we will play slow patient build up and then get anally raped on the counter by uruguay and costa rica. Italy will just pass through lumpard and gerrard.

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Would Cleverley or Smalling be going if they weren't at United? No.

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or phil jones ?

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skizz_b wrote:Goalkeepers
Joe Hart (Manchester City)
Ben Foster (West Bromwich Albion)
Fraser Forster (Celtic)

Defenders
Leighton Baines (Everton)
Gary Cahill (Chelsea)
Phil Jagielka (Everton)
Glen Johnson (Liverpool)
Phil Jones (Man Utd)
Luke Shaw (Southampton)
Chris Smalling (Man Utd)

Midfielders
Steven Gerrard (Liverpool) - captain
Ross Barkley (Everton)
Jordan Henderson (Liverpool)
Adam Lallana (Southampton)
Frank Lampard (Chelsea)
James Milner (Manchester City)
Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain (Arsenal)
Raheem Sterling (Liverpool)
Jack Wilshere (Arsenal)

Forwards
Rickie Lambert (Southampton)
Wayne Rooney (Manchester United)
Daniel Sturridge (Liverpool)
Danny Welbeck (Manchester United)

Standby
Michael Carrick (Manchester United)
Andy Carroll (West Ham United)
Tom Cleverley (Manchester United)
Jermain Defoe (Toronto FC)
Jon Flanagan (Liverpool)
John Ruddy (Norwich City)
John Stones (Everton)
Lampard? GTFO Woy


We should go for a youthful side in view to Euro 2016:

-----------------Hart------------
Johnson---Cahill--Jags---Shaw
-----Henderson---Wilshere
Sterling------Barkley-------Ox
--------------Sturridge-----------

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I understand the general pessimism but shall we not pretend that Costa Rica are a ruthless international side?

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1989

Lampard (and Gerrard) make a lot of sense.

If we just took the youngsters, whom would they learn off?
Not so much how to play the game, they mostly learn that at their clubs.
But about pacing oneself through a tournament and keeping a positive mind-state through three weeks in unfamiliar territory.
The team will go on day trips, Hodgson has seen how they were cooped up under Capello.
But even so, there is a limit to what hey can do logistically and in terms of the security element too.
I am not for one minute suggesting that these players will be enduring hardship compared to millions of people around the world, but it can be tricky keeping focussed in such conditions.

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Gerrard is enough, Lampard will add nothing on the pitch and has hardly played for Chelsea this season.

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northbank123 wrote:I understand the general pessimism but shall we not pretend that Costa Rica are a ruthless international side?
they are not - but they are bloody quick and very used to the heat.

plus Joel Campbell is up front for them.

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no terry (c*unt) is a mistake. best CB england has.

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1989 wrote:Gerrard is enough, Lampard will add nothing on the pitch and has hardly played for Chelsea this season.
Lampard has played 40 games for Chelsea this season.

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QuartzGooner wrote:
1989 wrote:Gerrard is enough, Lampard will add nothing on the pitch and has hardly played for Chelsea this season.
Lampard has played 40 games for Chelsea this season.
Mostly as sub though?

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For the first time since 1954, not a single Tottenham player has made this tournament's England World Cup squad.

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Yankee_Gooner_Dandee wrote:no terry (c*unt) is a mistake. best CB england has.
Reluctantly agree. Two CBs in the squad, and of them Jagielka has been injured for a fair time this season (and I personally think he is hugely suspect at this level).

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augie wrote:
goonersid wrote:Vile as Cole is, I think it's a mistake not to take him.
I can't see Ingerland winning a single game.


So then are they not correct for leaving him at home and giving baines and shaw the experience as they will be the one's who will be expected to play key role's for the euro's ? Personally (and I said this a few weeks ago) I tip my hat off to woy for what he is doing - he and the world knows that engerland are not good enough to win the world cup and may not be good enough to qualify from their group, so he is using this world cup to give his younger and inexperienced players some much needed tournament experience before the euro's 8)

Prior engerland managers have shown far too much loyalty to a failed generation imo
Thing is Augie, if they don't get out of the group, Woy will be sacked. Cole for my money is still the best left back Ingerland have and they would stand a better chance with him than without, therefore he should be in the squad as opposed to a rookie, this is after all the World Cup. Add to that he will probably start Baines, who is as Rodders pointed out "hardly one for the future"
With the humidity etc in Brazil, the game will be played at a slower pace and I cant' see Baines being given licence to bomb forward, which is the strong part of his game, therefore Cole is more suited to what will be reqd.
It is going to be virtually impossible not to qualify for the Euros given the increased number of finalists, Woy could have used those games and preceding friendlies to bleed new talent.

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