THE WENGER THREAD

[Theoperator]

We are 2 players short of excellent
or we are a manager 2 currants short of a fruit cake

[LaughingGooner]

Sorry, but I sense a fair number here try and compete with each other to be as abusive as possible to Wenger.

Find it sad that a person who has done so much for the club is mocked in such a personal way.

Am not going to go into the financial constraints, as I'll only be ridiculed here, but there's no doubt he's faced a massive disadvantage, taking on City and Chelsea with all their oil money.
Would have been so easy for Wenger to jump ship and head to PSG or Madrid to earn more money, with far greater transfer funds.
He's got the funds now, so there is no excuse; he has to perform in the transfer market this summer. The signing of Ozil is just the start in my opinion.

[SteveO 35]

11 June 2014 13:36 GMT

Still 100% for

[g60gooner]

Sorry, but I sense a fair number here try and compete with each other to be as abusive as possible to Wenger.

Find it sad that a person who has done so much for the club is mocked in such a personal way.

Am not going to go into the financial constraints, as I'll only be ridiculed here, but there's no doubt he's faced a massive disadvantage, taking on City and Chelsea with all their oil money.
Would have been so easy for Wenger to jump ship and head to PSG or Madrid to earn more money, with far greater transfer funds.
He's got the funds now, so there is no excuse; he has to perform in the transfer market this summer. The signing of Ozil is just the start in my opinion.

Financial disadvantage? Like, say, Simeone?

Jump ship to PSG or Madrid? Too much demand for success there I'm afraid. He would fail miserably. Far better to grasp 4th and take the 7-8 million a year here.

Got funds Now? He has had funds for years. He said if he was given £100 million to spend on players he would give it back

Signing of Ozil just the start? This signing seems to have been forced on him, or a panic buy due to pissed off season ticket holders and disappointing ticket sales.

Other than that, you have made some excellent points there mate.

[LaughingGooner]

So what's your source for Wenger having money for several years??

Maybe you were told by another forum member.....they all seem In The Know here.....

Clearly Wenger had loads of money in the bank but was happy to compete with Chelsea and City with one hand behind his back....

[g60gooner]

So what's your source for Wenger having money for several years??

Maybe you were told by another forum member.....they all seem In The Know here.....

Clearly Wenger had loads of money in the bank but was happy to compete with Chelsea and City with one hand behind his back....

You said it. He is such an arrogant egotist that yes, he would try to compete without spending, because he is sure his
way is the best way, even though it fails year after year.

As for my source for knowing he had money for several years, well there is the small point of AFC being in the top 15 highest grossing clubs consistantly over the last few years, the ludicrous ticket prices, the huge amounts of sponsorship money rolling in - albeit less than it should have been, due to notoriously poor negotiating team - then there is the merchandise sales.
Oh and the small matter of him paying the many average players huge sums of money for over long contracts and being happy to take around £70,000 000 in wages for himself over the last 10 years.
I could go on, but I reckon I might have answered your question.

You didn't respond to my other points by the way. Any reason??

[markyp]

Sorry, but I sense a fair number here try and compete with each other to be as abusive as possible to Wenger.

Find it sad that a person who has done so much for the club is mocked in such a personal way.

Am not going to go into the financial constraints, as I'll only be ridiculed here, but there's no doubt he's faced a massive disadvantage, taking on City and Chelsea with all their oil money.
Would have been so easy for Wenger to jump ship and head to PSG or Madrid to earn more money, with far greater transfer funds.
He's got the funds now, so there is no excuse; he has to perform in the transfer market this summer. The signing of Ozil is just the start in my opinion.

Financial disadvantage? Like, say, Simeone?

Jump ship to PSG or Madrid? Too much demand for success there I'm afraid. He would fail miserably. Far better to grasp 4th and take the 7-8 million a year here.

Got funds Now? He has had funds for years. He said if he was given £100 million to spend on players he would give it back

Signing of Ozil just the start? This signing seems to have been forced on him, or a panic buy due to pissed off season ticket holders and disappointing ticket sales.

Other than that, you have made some excellent points there mate.

LAUGHINGGOONER,you are having a larf mate,take those blinkers off and smell the bullshit that Wenker has been feeding you,as for ozil being just the start of the big signings

[kiwomya]

So what's your source for Wenger having money for several years??

Maybe you were told by another forum member.....they all seem In The Know here.....

Clearly Wenger had loads of money in the bank but was happy to compete with Chelsea and City with one hand behind his back....

You said it. He is such an arrogant egotist that yes, he would try to compete without spending, because he is sure his
way is the best way, even though it fails year after year.

As for my source for knowing he had money for several years, well there is the small point of AFC being in the top 15 highest grossing clubs consistantly over the last few years, the ludicrous ticket prices, the huge amounts of sponsorship money rolling in - albeit less than it should have been, due to notoriously poor negotiating team - then there is the merchandise sales.
Oh and the small matter of him paying the many average players huge sums of money for over long contracts and being happy to take around £70,000 000 in wages for himself over the last 10 years.
I could go on, but I reckon I might have answered your question.

You didn't respond to my other points by the way. Any reason??

You've chosen to ignore the building and paying off of the Emirates, why's that?

[MrT]

So what's your source for Wenger having money for several years??

Maybe you were told by another forum member.....they all seem In The Know here.....

Clearly Wenger had loads of money in the bank but was happy to compete with Chelsea and City with one hand behind his back....

You said it. He is such an arrogant egotist that yes, he would try to compete without spending, because he is sure his
way is the best way, even though it fails year after year.

As for my source for knowing he had money for several years, well there is the small point of AFC being in the top 15 highest grossing clubs consistantly over the last few years, the ludicrous ticket prices, the huge amounts of sponsorship money rolling in - albeit less than it should have been, due to notoriously poor negotiating team - then there is the merchandise sales.
Oh and the small matter of him paying the many average players huge sums of money for over long contracts and being happy to take around £70,000 000 in wages for himself over the last 10 years.
I could go on, but I reckon I might have answered your question.

You didn't respond to my other points by the way. Any reason??

You've chosen to ignore the building and paying off of the Emirates, why's that?

You've chosen to ignore the clear cut bank balance and multiple quotes from Gazidis et al that money has been available for the past several years, why's that?

http://swissramble.blogspot.co.uk/

As at the end of the 2011/12 season (the latest year when football clubs have published their accounts), Arsenal had an incredible £154 million of cash, which is significantly higher than any of their competitors with Manchester United the closest with £71 million (less than half the Gunners’ cash pile). An even more amazing statistic is that Arsenal have almost as much cash as the rest of the Premier League’s other 19 clubs combined (£181 million).

Although the club has only really started beating its chest about its financial strength this year, it has been obvious for a while that the club could have spent big. As far as back as 2005, former chief executive Keith Edelman observed, “There are sufficient funds available to the manger for transfers”, before upping the ante a couple of years later, “We have got plenty of financial firepower to make the transfers Arsène wants to make. We had over £70 million of cash at the end of the year and if Arsène wants to spend that money, we will make it available.” Sound familiar?

[OneBardGooner]

So what's your source for Wenger having money for several years??

Maybe you were told by another forum member.....they all seem In The Know here.....

Clearly Wenger had loads of money in the bank but was happy to compete with Chelsea and City with one hand behind his back....

You said it. He is such an arrogant egotist that yes, he would try to compete without spending, because he is sure his
way is the best way, even though it fails year after year.

As for my source for knowing he had money for several years, well there is the small point of AFC being in the top 15 highest grossing clubs consistantly over the last few years, the ludicrous ticket prices, the huge amounts of sponsorship money rolling in - albeit less than it should have been, due to notoriously poor negotiating team - then there is the merchandise sales.
Oh and the small matter of him paying the many average players huge sums of money for over long contracts and being happy to take around £70,000 000 in wages for himself over the last 10 years.
I could go on, but I reckon I might have answered your question.

You didn't respond to my other points by the way. Any reason??

You've chosen to ignore the building and paying off of the Emirates, why's that?

You've chosen to ignore the clear cut bank balance and multiple quotes from Gazidis et al that money has been available for the past several years, why's that?

http://swissramble.blogspot.co.uk/

As at the end of the 2011/12 season (the latest year when football clubs have published their accounts), Arsenal had an incredible £154 million of cash, which is significantly higher than any of their competitors with Manchester United the closest with £71 million (less than half the Gunners’ cash pile). An even more amazing statistic is that Arsenal have almost as much cash as the rest of the Premier League’s other 19 clubs combined (£181 million).

Although the club has only really started beating its chest about its financial strength this year, it has been obvious for a while that the club could have spent big. As far as back as 2005, former chief executive Keith Edelman observed, “There are sufficient funds available to the manger for transfers”, before upping the ante a couple of years later, “We have got plenty of financial firepower to make the transfers Arsène wants to make. We had over £70 million of cash at the end of the year and if Arsène wants to spend that money, we will make it available.” Sound familiar?

[SteveO 35]

You've all chosen to ignore the fact that there really is only one.....

[Theoperator]

You've chosen to ignore the building and paying off of the Emirates, why's that?

Im not sure that its been paid off as such has it- I think its one of those corporate hiding jobs, though I stand to be corrected.
Whilst we havent had the spending of Citeh and The Chavs for sure we should have been bolder than we have been, there is evidence of money being around, just hasnt been spent too wisely, think thats hard to argue against.

Besides, as repeated on her many a time, its not just the money, otherwise Atletico and The Mousers could be accused of cheating- in fact the league should end the day of the first game, money added up a la Monopoly and call it a day- would at least save all the injuries.

Surely SOMEONE has called their son Arsene Wenger Smith or some such Steve

[kiwomya]

So what's your source for Wenger having money for several years??

Maybe you were told by another forum member.....they all seem In The Know here.....

Clearly Wenger had loads of money in the bank but was happy to compete with Chelsea and City with one hand behind his back....

You said it. He is such an arrogant egotist that yes, he would try to compete without spending, because he is sure his
way is the best way, even though it fails year after year.

As for my source for knowing he had money for several years, well there is the small point of AFC being in the top 15 highest grossing clubs consistantly over the last few years, the ludicrous ticket prices, the huge amounts of sponsorship money rolling in - albeit less than it should have been, due to notoriously poor negotiating team - then there is the merchandise sales.
Oh and the small matter of him paying the many average players huge sums of money for over long contracts and being happy to take around £70,000 000 in wages for himself over the last 10 years.
I could go on, but I reckon I might have answered your question.

You didn't respond to my other points by the way. Any reason??

You've chosen to ignore the building and paying off of the Emirates, why's that?

You've chosen to ignore the clear cut bank balance and multiple quotes from Gazidis et al that money has been available for the past several years, why's that?

http://swissramble.blogspot.co.uk/

As at the end of the 2011/12 season (the latest year when football clubs have published their accounts), Arsenal had an incredible £154 million of cash, which is significantly higher than any of their competitors with Manchester United the closest with £71 million (less than half the Gunners’ cash pile). An even more amazing statistic is that Arsenal have almost as much cash as the rest of the Premier League’s other 19 clubs combined (£181 million).

Although the club has only really started beating its chest about its financial strength this year, it has been obvious for a while that the club could have spent big. As far as back as 2005, former chief executive Keith Edelman observed, “There are sufficient funds available to the manger for transfers”, before upping the ante a couple of years later, “We have got plenty of financial firepower to make the transfers Arsène wants to make. We had over £70 million of cash at the end of the year and if Arsène wants to spend that money, we will make it available.” Sound familiar?

I wasn't the one making the point. I merely asked a question. I don't understand how something as big as building a new stadium can be ignored.

I don't disagree we've got money to spend but to act like we've been sitting on it for 10 years is far fetched.

[Henry Norris 1913]

thank fuck US Martin is banned, imagine him in here -

[g60gooner]

So what's your source for Wenger having money for several years??

Maybe you were told by another forum member.....they all seem In The Know here.....

Clearly Wenger had loads of money in the bank but was happy to compete with Chelsea and City with one hand behind his back....

You said it. He is such an arrogant egotist that yes, he would try to compete without spending, because he is sure his
way is the best way, even though it fails year after year.

As for my source for knowing he had money for several years, well there is the small point of AFC being in the top 15 highest grossing clubs consistantly over the last few years, the ludicrous ticket prices, the huge amounts of sponsorship money rolling in - albeit less than it should have been, due to notoriously poor negotiating team - then there is the merchandise sales.
Oh and the small matter of him paying the many average players huge sums of money for over long contracts and being happy to take around £70,000 000 in wages for himself over the last 10 years.
I could go on, but I reckon I might have answered your question.

You didn't respond to my other points by the way. Any reason??

You've chosen to ignore the building and paying off of the Emirates, why's that?

The stadium that was going to increase revenue and therefore our ability to compete with the elite?

That stadium?

Nope, not forgotten it. As Mr.T 's links have pointed out, Gazidis frequently made clear how the money has always been available. Kind of makes a mockery of the stadium argument that AKB's throw around to back up the failures of the last few years.

The Wenger apologists choose to "ignore" things. The WOB's tend to remember things.