how are your comments in may irrelevant, it will all be done and dusted by then and we will know if we have done enough this summer to challenge by then. those who care to take the blinkers off will know we are still short in key positions, for no reason than he manger not choosing to spend the money available to him to strenghen sufficiently. as for the fa cup swaying you well, good to know you dont give a toss about the previous 7 years of mis managment and poor decisions. jeez we have some fickle fans.nut flush gooner wrote:My comments in May are irrelevant and I am not an AKB, as far as I am concerned if we didn't win the the FA cup last season wenger should have been fired.the playing mantis wrote:look forward to your comments in may.nut flush gooner wrote:Just got back from the game, what an embarrassment city are. We had our allocation restricted again only to see thousands of empty seats in their upper tier. If the game had been played at old trafford we still would have taken 30,000 up there even if the tickets went to red members. And yet they claim to be a big club?
The footy itself wasn't anything to get too carried away about it was a friendly after all. But we should feel encouraged that we have bought real quality in Sanchez who despite playing out wide did actually track back (Podolski take note), Ramsey carried on from last season and Jack had a good run out. I am expecting Jack to do a Ramsey this season and step up a level. Chambers aside of a few shaky moments looks solid at the back.
For the first time in years despite what the whingers say on here, we have a squad good enough to challenge for the title.
Best bit of the game was all the lower tier doing the posnan and mocking city's pathetic support.
if we dont sign a dm and cb we wont challenge***. and challenging means going to the wire. it doesnt mean leading the league august-march
i just dont get some people on here. had we lost today the attitude would be completely different. one victory in a meaningless game against disinterested oppo means that people are now ignoring the deficiencies that they themselves have been banging on about that will undermine us...
plus the akbs come out in force clutching at any straw they can.
if we sign a quality dm i will be, as will most whingers, fairly confident of competing. if we signed a proper goalscorer and back up cb too i would be confident of having agood chance of the league.
we need a CB and DM and a back up left back instead of monreal would be welcome, why not just sign daley blind who can fill all 3?
***edit should say if we dont sign a dm and to lesser extent CB
But the fact that I don't want him sacked now doesn't make me an AKB, it is still possible to support the manager in his position but disagree with some of the things he does. I look at the bigger picture generally.
We challenged for the title last season, in the end getting thumped at city, pool and everton was pretty much the difference between fourth and a higher finish. This season we have more options, need to keep our players fit at key times and a bit of luck.
Not sure which part of this you don't get, its quite simple really. Generally most of the teams in the prem have weaknesses in certain positions even city. Wenger might buy a DM, that would most definitely put us in contention. I saw many positives today, what a shame you didn't.
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Humoresque wrote:LaughingGooner wrote:FFS, you lot won't give up lolthe playing mantis wrote:usual moronic flip flopping gooners.
we are going to win the league cos we beat a half interested city in a mickey mouse meaningless game.
ffs. when will you people learn. the major issues still havent been addressed. until they are we wont chellenge.
sure we may lead the table a squirk of the fuxtures for a lengthy spell again but come squeaky bum time we wont be in the mix.
this result just convinces the clown in charge the squads good enough and gets the flip floppers off his back for afew months.
in isolation a nice result but city were beaten in preseason last year.
people have such short memories.
sanchez is a quality signing and chmabers could be, but realistically we are 1 first team starter better than last year..sanchez...we still have giroud leading the line and flaminin and arteta as the dm.
until a quality dm is signed and a back cb and if we are being properly realistic, a better striker than giroud and sanogo we aint going to be troubling the big boys.
i cant take omfort from this result as i know as well as all of you deep down it will mean we do not address the DM or CB issues
We're about to embark on a season with so much attacking potential and you come out with all this negative shit.
I'm going to enjoy the season whatever happens and I'm not going to burst into tears if we lose again in a big league game.
Have a day off and trot along to try and enjoy life a little more.
You couldn't make this stuff up....
but is more ''attacking potential" really what this squad needs more of?
Sanchez is world class and I'm glad he's here but do you really deny that we need CB cover and a strong ball-winning DM? Are you really happy with another year of Arteta and Flamer in that role?
Do you really think that if we don't add in these areas that we'll win the league? What was the problem last year? was it attacking, scoring goals or was it on the back end?
how many smaller, playmakers do we need in comparison to DM and CB?
great strike from Giroud but we both know it's not his typical self, I'm not totally down on him, he plays his role overall well, holds ball up, good header but I feel we need cover at CF as well.
do you really think Sonogo will improve? if so, what specifically makes you think he will?
calling people sp**s fans b/c you don't agree with them instead of using reason and logic is childish and immature.
this game was bigger than a typical friendly but it was still an exhibition. Which team fielded a line up closer to full strength?
please answer the actual questions.
sense at last! i usually dont bother arguing with the akbs theres no point. but alcohol has clouded my judgement. i leave you the baton of facts and common sense to rule over blind optimism
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For those of you who've recorded the game, have a look at Pat handing out the medals and I'm 99% sure he tells Wilshire to Fuck Off!!
Anyway, lots of positives from the game. If he continues this way, Ramsey will become one of the best midfielders in the World. Brilliant engine, makes time on the ball, ghosts into the box and has just about cut out all of the Hollywood flicks. Just love him now and feel a jerk 18 months ago for saying he'd never make it at Arsenal
Bring on the new season...it's gonna be interesting to say the least
Anyway, lots of positives from the game. If he continues this way, Ramsey will become one of the best midfielders in the World. Brilliant engine, makes time on the ball, ghosts into the box and has just about cut out all of the Hollywood flicks. Just love him now and feel a jerk 18 months ago for saying he'd never make it at Arsenal

Bring on the new season...it's gonna be interesting to say the least

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oh, I'm totally sober, I don't joke about the Arsenal!the playing mantis wrote:Humoresque wrote:LaughingGooner wrote:FFS, you lot won't give up lolthe playing mantis wrote:usual moronic flip flopping gooners.
we are going to win the league cos we beat a half interested city in a mickey mouse meaningless game.
ffs. when will you people learn. the major issues still havent been addressed. until they are we wont chellenge.
sure we may lead the table a squirk of the fuxtures for a lengthy spell again but come squeaky bum time we wont be in the mix.
this result just convinces the clown in charge the squads good enough and gets the flip floppers off his back for afew months.
in isolation a nice result but city were beaten in preseason last year.
people have such short memories.
sanchez is a quality signing and chmabers could be, but realistically we are 1 first team starter better than last year..sanchez...we still have giroud leading the line and flaminin and arteta as the dm.
until a quality dm is signed and a back cb and if we are being properly realistic, a better striker than giroud and sanogo we aint going to be troubling the big boys.
i cant take omfort from this result as i know as well as all of you deep down it will mean we do not address the DM or CB issues
We're about to embark on a season with so much attacking potential and you come out with all this negative shit.
I'm going to enjoy the season whatever happens and I'm not going to burst into tears if we lose again in a big league game.
Have a day off and trot along to try and enjoy life a little more.
You couldn't make this stuff up....
but is more ''attacking potential" really what this squad needs more of?
Sanchez is world class and I'm glad he's here but do you really deny that we need CB cover and a strong ball-winning DM? Are you really happy with another year of Arteta and Flamer in that role?
Do you really think that if we don't add in these areas that we'll win the league? What was the problem last year? was it attacking, scoring goals or was it on the back end?
how many smaller, playmakers do we need in comparison to DM and CB?
great strike from Giroud but we both know it's not his typical self, I'm not totally down on him, he plays his role overall well, holds ball up, good header but I feel we need cover at CF as well.
do you really think Sonogo will improve? if so, what specifically makes you think he will?
calling people sp**s fans b/c you don't agree with them instead of using reason and logic is childish and immature.
this game was bigger than a typical friendly but it was still an exhibition. Which team fielded a line up closer to full strength?
please answer the actual questions.
sense at last! i usually dont bother arguing with the akbs theres no point. but alcohol has clouded my judgement. i leave you the baton of facts and common sense to rule over blind optimism
I'm not holding my breath on a real response. I doubt there are any out there.
last year it was Oezil, and everyone creamed their pants.
this year it's 'basically' Sanchez, wash, rinse, repeat.
the backline additions haven't really strengthened, mostly just replaced. I'm glad they've got Premier League experience but the nawing like a rodent in my brain suspicion is that we won't strengthen where we really need it... and it's a pity as so many have said for so long where we need to strengthen, it's mostly agreed upon by most fans and pundits FOR SEVERAL SEASONS NOW but Wenger is stubborn.
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Enjoyed the day, a good performance and some positives to take into the new season.
The Poznan pisstake was fantastic, almost eclipsed for hilarity by 'man of the match, Olivier Giroud'.
My sons Arsenal record is now 14 matches, 13 wins and one draw
The Poznan pisstake was fantastic, almost eclipsed for hilarity by 'man of the match, Olivier Giroud'.
My sons Arsenal record is now 14 matches, 13 wins and one draw

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Best part of the game was when we took the piss and done the poznan to the citeh fans...after the 3rd goal... 

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Just back,
what a great day-
Few highlights for me- The tube on the way up was actually bouncing up and down as Gooners were singing
Wembleys world beatingly impressive looking up from Wembley Park tube station.
As NB123 says, the tempo in the first half was great, but also I just never felt they would score- Debuchi and Chambers were excellent Schez was fantastic (I feel sorry for Ospina who may not get much of a look in)
Rambo just great
Sanogo- he definately causes defense a lot of problems, he is so unorthodox, just really wish he would get some proper gametime on loan.
Sanchez impressive, but will need time to settle I suspect
Kos- hope is isnt injured, Nacho on at half time? WTF
What a strike by Giroud
Santi was absolutely on fire today
Giroud and Wilshere did they usual annoying on the floor stuff but were picked up by our players
- Brilliant I thought!
I looked up when doing the Poznan and it was almost the whole of the upper stands as well
"Nasri NAsri whats the score"
The fans were great today as well- why oh why is The Grove not the same noise wise. I do wonder if its because for a change the stewards let the lower teir all stand
I hardly dare mention this but there wasnt a queue for the tube back, must be something to do with the city fans leaving early (What few there were- terrible to not sell on the upper tier allocation) as well as 3 platforms for trains to leave from (
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Must be great for Chambers, debut and a piece of siverware- what a dream for him
So- better tempo and foreward threat, better defence- still lacking a strong DM but surely massive ground for optomism.
COYG
what a great day-
Few highlights for me- The tube on the way up was actually bouncing up and down as Gooners were singing

Wembleys world beatingly impressive looking up from Wembley Park tube station.
As NB123 says, the tempo in the first half was great, but also I just never felt they would score- Debuchi and Chambers were excellent Schez was fantastic (I feel sorry for Ospina who may not get much of a look in)
Rambo just great
Sanogo- he definately causes defense a lot of problems, he is so unorthodox, just really wish he would get some proper gametime on loan.
Sanchez impressive, but will need time to settle I suspect
Kos- hope is isnt injured, Nacho on at half time? WTF

What a strike by Giroud

Santi was absolutely on fire today
Giroud and Wilshere did they usual annoying on the floor stuff but were picked up by our players

I looked up when doing the Poznan and it was almost the whole of the upper stands as well


"Nasri NAsri whats the score"


The fans were great today as well- why oh why is The Grove not the same noise wise. I do wonder if its because for a change the stewards let the lower teir all stand

I hardly dare mention this but there wasnt a queue for the tube back, must be something to do with the city fans leaving early (What few there were- terrible to not sell on the upper tier allocation) as well as 3 platforms for trains to leave from (

Must be great for Chambers, debut and a piece of siverware- what a dream for him
So- better tempo and foreward threat, better defence- still lacking a strong DM but surely massive ground for optomism.
COYG
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1989 wrote:9 barren years and suddenly we're shitting out trophies.
9 barren years what about the 4th place trophy which Wenger and Gazidis kept banging on about
What i saw today we are still 3 players short of challenging.And i dont mean challenging from Sept to March i mean being in the shake up in May.You win fuck all leading the table for 128 days.We need the same positions filled as we did last summer.A CB a commanding DM and a 25 league goal a season striker.Giroud just isnt top class.And we are fucked if Sanogoal is still and the club and not sent on a 3 year loan
If we dont sign anyone else we will finish 4th or 5th but we can always watch todays match on DVD come May

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donaldo71 wrote:1989 wrote:9 barren years and suddenly we're shitting out trophies.
9 barren years what about the 4th place trophy which Wenger and Gazidis kept banging on about
What i saw today we are still 3 players short of challenging.And i dont mean challenging from Sept to March i mean being in the shake up in May.You win fuck all leading the table for 128 days.We need the same positions filled as we did last summer.A CB a commanding DM and a 25 league goal a season striker.Giroud just isnt top class.And we are fucked if Sanogoal is still and the club and not sent on a 3 year loan
If we dont sign anyone else we will finish 4th or 5th but we can always watch todays match on DVD come May
Welcome to the forum, donaldo71.
I totally agree with you.
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Already is.Eboue-Why? wrote:For those of you who've recorded the game, have a look at Pat handing out the medals and I'm 99% sure he tells Wilshire to Fuck Off!!
Anyway, lots of positives from the game. If he continues this way, Ramsey will become one of the best midfielders in the World. Brilliant engine, makes time on the ball, ghosts into the box and has just about cut out all of the Hollywood flicks. Just love him now and feel a jerk 18 months ago for saying he'd never make it at Arsenal![]()
Bring on the new season...it's gonna be interesting to say the least
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Nah we're getting relegated mate.donaldo71 wrote:1989 wrote:9 barren years and suddenly we're shitting out trophies.
9 barren years what about the 4th place trophy which Wenger and Gazidis kept banging on about
What i saw today we are still 3 players short of challenging.And i dont mean challenging from Sept to March i mean being in the shake up in May.You win fuck all leading the table for 128 days.We need the same positions filled as we did last summer.A CB a commanding DM and a 25 league goal a season striker.Giroud just isnt top class.And we are fucked if Sanogoal is still and the club and not sent on a 3 year loan
If we dont sign anyone else we will finish 4th or 5th but we can always watch todays match on DVD come May
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I'm sure Sanchez will improve but his performance was abysmal today. Reminds me of Walcott when we got him- all pace and no thinking skills.