As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
georgeknows89 wrote:Man Utd created the biggest loudest strongest protest and marketing machine resulting in the green and yellow scarf and the formation of FC United but what impact has any of it really had on the Glazers ?
Perhaps if someone forms Highbury FC then all those that refuse to step inside the Emirates, full stop, or are waiting for Kroenke ( and ? Usmanov ) and Wenger to go can all f**k off and watch them now .
None of the above 3 are going anywhere fast and I just don't know what the armchair brigade expect those of us that attended yesterday to do, the fact is there isn't much anyone can do that will have a real impact on our major shareholder.
The AGM as good as confirmed that the £3m to KSE is here to stay and I am sure will steadily increase.
Red Actions actions became inaction, AST love a cup of tea with Ivan but will soon sell their own bone china- their 116 shares and BSM always ask 'we want our arsenal back'- which is what exactly ? .AISA sit on the fence on anything controversial.
At least poor Maria wants to go to every game in Europe still so fair play to her for asking her question.
Reading your post I can't decide if you are absolutely correct and very clued in beyond what the masses see/expect or if you are just a total fucktard.
Only kidding. Your points are very good tbh. There never will be an effective Arsenal fan-based protest movement that will ever achieve anything. Modern football is a bit cunty but it's here and it's here to stay.
Truth hurts most but problem is that all fans groups higher level personnel have an element of "whats in it for me syndrome" ( and i'm not just limiting that to us at AFC).
In respect of the 2 shareholders we have to look at the positive- KSE has his 67 % but R & W with 30% is staying which protects us from KSE reaching the crucial 75% threshold where he can then do a Glazer on us.
Likewise, those that want neither can forget it- Usmanov is not going to sit around getting no return on his investment and no dividend for years and then just walk away and also just sell to a 3rd party if KSE decides to sell up.
Our best hope is that the rest of Kroenke empire performs even worse and he has to sell his AFC investment at some stage to raise money.
Born red, Live red , Die red -irrespective of owner manager or players at the time- we all support a team not an individual and if people cant accept that then bye bye
moving forward I think it is time to accept that although many fans would like change I dont really think that we are going to get it - and that modern day Arsenal is about as good as it is going to get.
personally I think that on the playing side things could actually start to get worse and we may well be looking at Wenger's 17 years in the CL as a genuine golden era of the club.
if you look at Kroenke's other sports franchises (and that is what Arsenal now is - a Wiggy sports franchise) they dont do particularly well. I don't think that there will be much pressure on Wenger and his successor to even achieve top 4 now that the new commercial deals have arrived. as long as Kroenke gets full houses each week - and he will, then it doesnt really matter to him whether we finish 4th or 14th.
georgeknows89 wrote:Man Utd created the biggest loudest strongest protest and marketing machine resulting in the green and yellow scarf and the formation of FC United but what impact has any of it really had on the Glazers ?
Perhaps if someone forms Highbury FC then all those that refuse to step inside the Emirates, full stop, or are waiting for Kroenke ( and ? Usmanov ) and Wenger to go can all f**k off and watch them now .
None of the above 3 are going anywhere fast and I just don't know what the armchair brigade expect those of us that attended yesterday to do, the fact is there isn't much anyone can do that will have a real impact on our major shareholder.
The AGM as good as confirmed that the £3m to KSE is here to stay and I am sure will steadily increase.
Red Actions actions became inaction, AST love a cup of tea with Ivan but will soon sell their own bone china- their 116 shares and BSM always ask 'we want our arsenal back'- which is what exactly ? .AISA sit on the fence on anything controversial.
At least poor Maria wants to go to every game in Europe still so fair play to her for asking her question.
So we should all sit back and say nothing ??
I would love to go and represent one of our shareholders at these AGM's - the chance to really vent your issue's/complaints at the people responsible, is a once a year opportunity so people cant sit their mute and feeling pointless about whole issue. Maybe my grilling them wont make any difference but maybe it might awaken other shareholders who are sitting there waiting for someone else to speak up. If I walk away from the AGM having expressed my extreme frsutration and anger, then I will at least feel satisfied that I have done my bit trying to push for improvement/changes - if it then falls down due to a lack of support from other fans then there is fcuk all I can do about that, but I refuse to sit back silently watching those people stagnate the club I love
donaldo71 wrote:Dont blame Wenger Gazidis or Kroenke.Its the fans fault how they get away with it every year.The shareholders like the fans who attend the Soul-less bowl are as weak as piss.We get the manager and board the fans deserve
Its 5 seasons since i set foot in the Emirates i wont return until the present regime has gone.At least i am not paying Wenger and Gazidis wages
Totally agree mate!!!! Been saying the same thing for years. I haven't been for over 4 years, my last game was the 2-3 at home to West Brom in Sept 2010. My ticket that day was £75 and I realised then that I just couldn't do it anymore. Best part of £100 to watch shit like Almunia, Eboue, Song, Bendtner and Denilson strolling around without a care in the sodding world.
I walked out after that match and saw one of the players driving onto the Holloway Road in a German registered Mercedes McLaren convertible - a car worth more than my house. I couldn't see who was driving (left hand drive / blacked out windows / crowd of fans around the car) but that was it for me. I vowed then not to go back until Wenger had gone and taken all of his soft shite players with him.
Trouble is though, you've only got to read the comments on the main Gooner website to see how many "fans" still idolise Wenger and think the sun shines out of his arsehole - it is truly tragic. For me change can't come soon enough!!
Arsenal fans pay a little over £28 per goal...apparently , and I am open to correction, including flights it would still be cheaper to have a season ticket for Real Madrid and fly over for games from London than have a season ticket for The Emirates while living in London.
Every year i'm always interested in what lies are told at the AGM
this year i couldnt even be arsed, ive only found out it was yesterday or soemthing and it sounds like the same old group of politicians lying through their fecking teeth yet again whilst getting rich....
its nice we have sanchez this season, its nice we finally went all out for the FA cup and won it, i dont even post here anymore ... my interest in the club i supported as a kid at highbury is almost non existant... I will probably get an arsenal tattoo and at least for whatever it costs it shows my support and sticks with me for my lifetime...
how did they find time to give both barrells on a white sheet to the jewish lads.......they must have taken a break from accusing the rest of the planet of being racist.
hang on a minute...a white sheet.....are they the racist ones......thats not half confusing
Still apart from the obvious its hard to argue with the wenger kronke fuck off bit!
