As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
Gunner Rob wrote:Just reading the Standard on the way home.
Le clueless one is still stating that we can win the title!
What a deluded
Imagine if we did...
His ego would know no bounds
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Still 100000000000000000000000000000000000% against.
This is the best Arsenal team we've had in recent years and he still can't get it running.
The quicker we can get a manger in who is not so egotistical and will adapt their philosophies (sounding like Van Gall at the moment ) the better.
My shortlist:
Jürgen Klopp - give that man a decent budget and watch him thrive. Would get the best out of Ozil too, I think.
Roberto Martinez - seems to have made the step up to Everton better than we all expected and ha them playing very good fluid football with a strong element of defence.
Carlo Ancelotti - I can't see us prizing him away from Real though.
Manuel Pellegrini - I do like him, not sure on his transfers though (Mangala? )
my dream - wait until Carlo is fired by RM (he will be at some point), then get him to replace Le Muppet.
But then I have dreams about winning the lottery.
Wenger's remarks are increasingly in bad taste, as the pressure on him from fans (and some of the media) is increasing. He is a dislikeable, humourless, arrogant, patronising, far too wealthy and powerful man. And a busted flush as a manager.
I agree with this thread in that death threats are distasteful and of course totally unacceptable. I want him to stay in fine health in his retirement in a tax haven of his choice, starting asap. Not North London (which is pretty much a tax haven for the super rich though, probably why he's still here).
Bradywasking wrote:Sorry to go on about this but this has got to me. I am writing on a thread called "Threats to Wenger ".. I would never threaten anyone or condone threats to anyone, yet here is our manager making flippant remarks about killing himself..I know he is not saying that in the context of this thread , he couldn't give a f**k about our opinions, but there is an epidemic of suicide in my country and I find his remarks crass, stupid and insensitive. Pity he didn't say he would resign if he didn't believe we could win the league. Then we could hold him accountable for that in May.
Fcuk that.....I would be quite comfortable holding him accountable to his original threat
I do understand the comments complaining about his remarks about suicide - over here (because it's a much smaller and closer community/country) we all know people who have committed suicide and we have all seen the devastation left behind but his comments were in bad choice and were poorly chosen more than anything else
Before I start I once again remind you all that 10 games in, we have not beaten any team in the PL this season currently higher than 15th.
Started reading Amy Lawrence's book about The Invincibles season (may as well read our history, as this bunch don't look likely to create any).
Page 1 of the foreword written by Clueless included this from him. I have always wanted to do my job as well as I can (stop sniggering), At the end of each season I ask myself have I done themaximum with this team?
Why the team and not the club? finishing 4th with £120m in the bank, I presume he sees that as success. If you win the championship you can still think the guy who finished tenth in the league has done better than you, because he has taken the maximum of the maximum of the potential of his team.
As I see it, he is saying if the team falls short of the standard, its because they have not fulfilled their potential, and not because they are simply not good enough.
Therefore, in his eyes the reason we let a 3 goal lead slip on Tuesday was because the players let him down, not because they were out of their natural position due to lack of team squad management.
Don't worry about topping yourself Wenger, a simple resignation letter will suffice.
foxinthebox2001 wrote:
Page 1 of the foreword written by Clueless included this from him. If you win the championship you can still think the guy who finished tenth in the league has done better than you, because he has taken the maximum of the maximum of the potential of his team.
What he is also saying in a round about way is that he feels perhaps sometimes he is better than the guy who won the championship because anybody can spend 100m on players and win the league without being at their maximum. Justifying his under performance again. Wenger imo hasnt gotten the maximum out of his team for years. Its not even the money he doesnt spend that is the problem.
The boards standard should be has he gotten the maximum out of his team? If not and it is repeated over and over he should be given his bus fare home. I am fed up to the back of my teeth of expecting us to struggle in every game we play when we have some of the best players in the prem in our team.
Sam59 wrote:Wenger's remarks are increasingly in bad taste, as the pressure on him from fans (and some of the media) is increasing. He is a dislikeable, humourless, arrogant, patronising, far too wealthy and powerful man. And a busted flush as a manager.
I agree with this thread in that death threats are distasteful and of course totally unacceptable. I want him to stay in fine health in his retirement in a tax haven of his choice, starting asap. Not North London (which is pretty much a tax haven for the super rich though, probably why he's still here).
Agree absolutely. I heard somebody put Merson's remarks to him - the more and more journalists start questioning him on the fans' discontent and pundits' scathing criticism, the more flippant, arrogant and condescending he'll be. He'll increasingly piss the journalists and fans off and it'll make it a bigger story, they'll keep hammering the angle. Wenger is honest to a fault and he will not hide his utter contempt for anyone who dares express a negative opinion on him.
He will always scrape a result to save his skin though. Imo anybody who thinks we won't be having this conversation in two years' time is naive.
foxinthebox2001 wrote:Before I start I once again remind you all that 10 games in, we have not beaten any team in the PL this season currently higher than 15th.
Started reading Amy Lawrence's book about The Invincibles season (may as well read our history, as this bunch don't look likely to create any).
Page 1 of the foreword written by Clueless included this from him. I have always wanted to do my job as well as I can (stop sniggering), At the end of each season I ask myself have I done themaximum with this team?
Why the team and not the club? finishing 4th with £120m in the bank, I presume he sees that as success. If you win the championship you can still think the guy who finished tenth in the league has done better than you, because he has taken the maximum of the maximum of the potential of his team.
As I see it, he is saying if the team falls short of the standard, its because they have not fulfilled their potential, and not because they are simply not good enough.
Therefore, in his eyes the reason we let a 3 goal lead slip on Tuesday was because the players let him down, not because they were out of their natural position due to lack of team squad management.
Don't worry about topping yourself Wenger, a simple resignation letter will suffice.
Arrogant is the word.. he rectifies not criticises ...so the change in our fortunes begin today..that's ok then Arsene , over to you now. !! I'm going to watch this game today, 42 years supporting Arsenal obviously doesn't entitle me to an opinion , but I'm sure I will have one.
One of the few things I agree with him on - does anyone take that prick Merson seriously? Certainly nobody else on Sky does. Wish we could remove the bloke from our history
One of the few things I agree with him on - does anyone take that prick Merson seriously? Certainly nobody else on Sky does. Wish we could remove the bloke from our history
Its not really the point though, as what Merson said was correct. We are tactically clueless, and although he (Merson) isn't the sharpest, at least he is being honest, give me that over some of our x players, who blame everyone else, but the manager, when Wenger fucks up again.
One of the few things I agree with him on - does anyone take that prick Merson seriously? Certainly nobody else on Sky does. Wish we could remove the bloke from our history
But shouldn't we be judging it on the words and not the speaker ? We all know that merse can be a rightless brainless tit sometimes, but at the same time he was bang on the button the other night and what he said rather than the fact that he said it, should be what we are focused on
I too love his description of what he does......."I give them a job to do and trust them to do it". No mention in there of me or my staff coaching them how to do that job better. No mention in there of whether the job he gives them, is in some way responsible for the collective weaknesses of the team. What he has basically said is that he has given the players a job to do and if it all goes tits up then it is because they are not doing their job properly - blame the players not the manager eh arsehole ?
The frequently used comment about his critics lack of managerial experience is pathetic - why should top quality players listen to him telling them what to do when as a player he was only a plodder in the French 2nd or 3rd divisions ? Can you imagine his reaction if ozil remind him of his not so glorious playing career ? The man is a hypocritical c.unt in soooo many ways but this attempt to deflect criticism is shameful tbh
One of the few things I agree with him on - does anyone take that prick Merson seriously? Certainly nobody else on Sky does. Wish we could remove the bloke from our history
But shouldn't we be judging it on the words and not the speaker ? We all know that merse can be a rightless brainless tit sometimes, but at the same time he was bang on the button the other night and what he said rather than the fact that he said it, should be what we are focused on
I too love his description of what he does......."I give them a job to do and trust them to do it". No mention in there of me or my staff coaching them how to do that job better. No mention in there of whether the job he gives them, is in some way responsible for the collective weaknesses of the team. What he has basically said is that he has given the players a job to do and if it all goes tits up then it is because they are not doing their job properly - blame the players not the manager eh arsehole ?
The frequently used comment about his critics lack of managerial experience is pathetic - why should top quality players listen to him telling them what to do when as a player he was only a plodder in the French 2nd or 3rd divisions ? Can you imagine his reaction if ozil remind him of his not so glorious playing career ? The man is a hypocritical c.unt in soooo many ways but this attempt to deflect criticism is shameful tbh
Maybe the media could have asked, how has Mourinho come back to England after 5 six years away, and in his 2nd season back, will win the title, while Wanker hasn't finished in the top two since 2005. If the media haven't got the ball to ask proper questions, then wanker will keep with the ''haven't worked a day in football line''.
One of the few things I agree with him on - does anyone take that prick Merson seriously? Certainly nobody else on Sky does. Wish we could remove the bloke from our history
Merson is no articulate genius , but in a way that makes his outburst last Tuesday more refreshing ..It wasn't the usual choreographed be careful what you wish for media reaction to Wenger. Still think he (Merson) didn't go far enough and actually blame the manager.
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