Realistic Replacements for Wenger

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Re: Realistic Replacements for Wenger

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Guardiola for me, absolutely. Arsenal has tried to mimic the same philosophy he represents and he would be perfect fit after Wenker is gone. He has won everything with Barca, is winning everything with Bayern and will probably seek for new challenges. Arsenal still has same attributes as a club as Barca and Bayern - real history, traditions, good facilities, good financial situation, freedom to operate by managers own philosophy and good core squad that only needs couple of quality additions. He as a personality would also fit in great to the Arsenal.

I would take Simeone in a blink of an eye, but he might be maybe too edgy personality to Arsenal. Same might go with Klopp who still might be good option too. Klopp is a great manager, no matter where he is at the moment with Dortmund. He has done great job there during the past years with smaller resources and Bayern harvesting their best players every year.

I don't think that getting world class manager to Arsenal isn't a problem. I think that a possibility to manage the Arsenal is quite tempting option actually to many top flight managers.

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I can never understand fans using the argument that other managers are under contract and would be expensive to get - are we short of money or something ? :? Haven't the past few years taught us anything ? The manager's position is THE single most important position within any club and we should not consider going for one of the cheaper options.

My choices in order are -

1. Simeone - after years of watching our pussy footballers getting bullied all over the country, I long for a manager to come in and light a fire under them and instil some real passion in the team. Simeone is a mad b.astard who expects his players to die for the team and it is a long time since we have had that ethic in our club. Yes he is sometimes controversial but winners usually are cos they do not accept losing and will not tolerate a losers mentality. I should also add that he is able to organise a team to nullify better players like they have at Madrid and that is a huge plus for me

2. Klopp - many of the same traits as simeone except his teams play with more speed and freedom than the more considered approach at ath Madrid. Again he is a manager who does not cower down against the rich clubs and doesn't moan about the lack of financial parity in football. I really don't get the view being spouted by le-grove that suggests that klopp has now been found out and that is why Dortmund are struggling - Dortmund are having a poor season because they have lost too many key players and somewhere along the line that is bound to catch up with you. I also find it amusing that after ONE season where Dortmund have had a woeful run of injuries, le-grove says that he is no better than le cock at looking after his players. He is a man that appears ready for a fresh challenge and being german might get ozil back on track and treat podolski with more respect and maybe even entice marco reus to join us 8)

3. Martinez - premiership ready, plays good football and knows how to organise his teams properly. Personally I think that he has done enough to warrant a chance at a big club and I think that we would suit him.

Outsiders - Michael Laudrup, rijkard, avb and Antonio conte are all names that I would be comfortable with also.

Finally can I just say that I wouldn't be that upset if the next manager fails with us - right now we need a manager to come in and shake the club out of this state of apathy and if that is all that the new manager achieves then that would be acceptable to me. We have to remember that should our next manager not be a successful appointment, it will be a lot easier to sack him therefore the risk isn't great imo 8)

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AVB, again Augie? We'd be fucking laughing stocks :lol: Whatever you think of him, f you're after somebody to get rid of the pussy culture then he is not the bloke. Players clearly don't listen to him.

Simeone and Klopp for me are both potentially attainable - they both built great sides and will just be sick and tired of being blown out of the water by their rivals able to spend four times as much as them. We don't have the completely bottomless pockets of City but we have more than enough to enable a manager to build a great team and sustain it, domestically and potentially continentally (obviously I am speaking in the hypothetical and NOT voicing my expectations for the next manager). We have the resources, infrastructure and platform but not the insane pressure, plus the chance to manage in the PL and live in London. Klopp would be my preference, Simeone also brilliant.

Martinez would come in the blink of an eye. If neither of the other two would come I would be more than happy to give him a chance.

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how many more times do people need to be told - Wenger won it back in May!!!

the managers mentioned will all be in new jobs come 2017 :roll:

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Gunner Rob wrote:how many more times do people need to be told - Wenger won it back in May!!!

the managers mentioned will all be in new jobs come 2017 :roll:
Sadly true.

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Realistic.Is the title of this post

Yeah Anceloti is going to leave the superstars Bale Kroos Rodrigues and Ronaldo for the shite of Mertersacker Monreal Cazorla and Giroud

Yeah Guardiola is going to leave the European super power for Wally Walcott

Get real.Realistic is Pardew Warnock and Mike Bassett

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Steve Bould with Henry as assistant. Would shore up the defence and provide attacking nous.

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Well I would definitely avoid any ex-heroes, I could not bear the thought of it not working out for them.

Top target would be Guardiola, but I feel he is out of reach, and is more suited to a team already at the top, and just taking them to the next level (ie CL win) - just as he did when taking over Barca and Bayern.

Despite what others say on here, I think Ancelotti is more realistic - the problem with the Real Madrid job is that it is only this season that matters ; despite winning them their 10 European Cup last season, if Real were to finish 2nd in La Liga and lose in the semi finals of the CL, chances are he would be out - and that could be to our benefit. Plus he has a point to prove to Abramovich and Chelsea, where ironically that is exactly what happened to him - sacked the season after he won them the Double.

Klopp ; the hipster choice?

Simeone ; Looks cool as fuck on the touchline, and is also likely to go at it with any big mouth like Mourinho, and is very animated on the touchline which I think the fanbase could buy into after years of AW inactivity and sitting on the bench. My only reservation is that he might just be too spunky and argumentative for our board to handle. Sign him up.

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hugh jardon wrote:Steve Bould with Henry as assistant. Would shore up the defence and provide attacking nous.
Steve Bould hasn't shored up shit since he came in over two years ago. Almost certainly doesn't have as much influence on day-to-day coaching and approach as he should but he's either a fucking terrible coach or somebody who happily sits there like a fucking mute so that he can carry on trousering a million a year. Frankly I don't really care which, neither justifies him staying on.

A manager who has worked under Wenger for 13 and a half years and a petulant assistant who still thinks the sun shines out of Wenger's arse and seems to labour under the impression that his approach is the right way to prosper in football. Fantastic players for us but I wouldn't touch either of them with a barge pole in those roles.

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One thing I would say is this - the current infighting at the club cannot be helping us get a new manager sometime in the future

what would have been viewed upon as an attractive job only a few months ago must have the top managers making a note on Arsenal as a club to avoid at all costs! you only need to dig a little deeper into the club and see the spineless board and tight fisted owner and any manager with ambition is going to steer clear

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northbank123 wrote:AVB, again Augie? We'd be fucking laughing stocks :lol: Whatever you think of him, f you're after somebody to get rid of the pussy culture then he is not the bloke. Players clearly don't listen to him.

Simeone and Klopp for me are both potentially attainable - they both built great sides and will just be sick and tired of being blown out of the water by their rivals able to spend four times as much as them. We don't have the completely bottomless pockets of City but we have more than enough to enable a manager to build a great team and sustain it, domestically and potentially continentally (obviously I am speaking in the hypothetical and NOT voicing my expectations for the next manager). We have the resources, infrastructure and platform but not the insane pressure, plus the chance to manage in the PL and live in London. Klopp would be my preference, Simeone also brilliant.

Martinez would come in the blink of an eye. If neither of the other two would come I would be more than happy to give him a chance.


Player power fcuked him at the chavs in the same way it fcuked (world cup winner) scholari and to a lesser degree grant - their players were more than happy to have a puppet like di matteo managing them so that they could dictate policy within the squad :roll: AVB was a successful manager before he came to England and sometimes good managers land in bad situations - lets not forget that wenker's cv was patchy before he joined us. You talk about us being a laughing stock if we employed him as our manager.....would that be any different than now ? Do you not find it embarrassing that our manager wont get out of the dugout because he knows the abuse he will get from the inbreds ? Do you find it shameful that the old c.unt cant even zip up his coat and every media outlet in the country took the piss over that :oops: Since when do we give a fcuk what others think of us ?
Anyway just to repeat what I said earlier, if we appointed an avb (or whoever) and it didn't work out, it would be easy for the board to sack him cos there will be no attachment to him

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Pep Guardiola please.
Closely followed by Diego Simeone: could you imagine Simeone hiding in his dugout because he's "not willing to give Stoke fans the opportunity to insult him"?! :shock:
Klopp is my third choice.

Ancelotyi would probably top all of that lot because he's proven he's amazing no matter where he goes, took a Real team that hD done nothing in the CL for 10 years and won it first time of asking. Won a Double in England, the CL twice with Milan. He's outstanding but let's face it, he's not leaving Real Madrid for the Specialists in 4th place
:roll:

Pep on the other hand has 2 years left on his deal and doesn't hang around clubs long term.

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TheCook wrote:Well I would definitely avoid any ex-heroes, I could not bear the thought of it not working out for them.

Top target would be Guardiola, but I feel he is out of reach, and is more suited to a team already at the top, and just taking them to the next level (ie CL win) - just as he did when taking over Barca and Bayern.

Despite what others say on here, I think Ancelotti is more realistic - the problem with the Real Madrid job is that it is only this season that matters ; despite winning them their 10 European Cup last season, if Real were to finish 2nd in La Liga and lose in the semi finals of the CL, chances are he would be out - and that could be to our benefit. Plus he has a point to prove to Abramovich and Chelsea, where ironically that is exactly what happened to him - sacked the season after he won them the Double.

Klopp ; the hipster choice?

Simeone ; Looks cool as fuck on the touchline, and is also likely to go at it with any big mouth like Mourinho, and is very animated on the touchline which I think the fanbase could buy into after years of AW inactivity and sitting on the bench. My only reservation is that he might just be too spunky and argumentative for our board to handle. Sign him up.
I'm surprised you didn't opt for a Wenger extension until 2026 :roll:

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Perryashburtongroves wrote:Joachim Löw. An excellent football brain and well-respected. Get him.
Low is a great shout. As is Rudy Garcia of Roma....
The key thing would be to ensure that Usmanov is presiding over these managers. That means no fucking about: You Win or you go home. No more "CL qualification" trophies, 4th place parades etc.
There's obviously just one small issue with getting Usmanov in, and that might be a group of Arsene's Secret Agents marching against this.... :rubchin:

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Ikechukwu1 wrote:
TheCook wrote:Well I would definitely avoid any ex-heroes, I could not bear the thought of it not working out for them.

Top target would be Guardiola, but I feel he is out of reach, and is more suited to a team already at the top, and just taking them to the next level (ie CL win) - just as he did when taking over Barca and Bayern.

Despite what others say on here, I think Ancelotti is more realistic - the problem with the Real Madrid job is that it is only this season that matters ; despite winning them their 10 European Cup last season, if Real were to finish 2nd in La Liga and lose in the semi finals of the CL, chances are he would be out - and that could be to our benefit. Plus he has a point to prove to Abramovich and Chelsea, where ironically that is exactly what happened to him - sacked the season after he won them the Double.

Klopp ; the hipster choice?

Simeone ; Looks cool as fuck on the touchline, and is also likely to go at it with any big mouth like Mourinho, and is very animated on the touchline which I think the fanbase could buy into after years of AW inactivity and sitting on the bench. My only reservation is that he might just be too spunky and argumentative for our board to handle. Sign him up.
I'm surprised you didn't opt for a Wenger extension until 2026 :roll:
Why's that then? I don't know you, and you don't know me

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