Couldn't agree with you more. EVERY window this happens FFS.augie wrote:Skooner wrote:I don't think he is absolutely top class, but he is an undoubted significant improvement on the other options and history makes fans naturally worry that if you gave Wenger a straight choice of £25m on him or not bringing anyone in he'd probably go for the latter. If we can get someone better for the money then great but the fact that it appeared the player was keen on coming to us, we have shown recent interest and we've not got the deal done then it suggests we aren't looking at that as a problem area at the moment. I don't share your confidence on getting someone in at the end of the window, more likely we'll try for a striker.officepest wrote:He may have a point in this case though. When Newcastle went down, Andy Carroll was listed as an asset of about £750k. Eighteen months later (and £50m richer), Liverpool decided he was somehow worth £35m.green gooner wrote:Wenger would never have paid the asking price for Schneiderlin after having looked at him when Saints were in the Championship when he had a value then of about £1.5m.
He will opt for the default internal solutions.
Does anyone here really think Schneiderlin is the missing piece of the jigsaw? I still reckon Monsieur Magoo will move for someone at the fag-end of the window, because if he thinks Arteta and Flamini are up to it now he needs a reality check.
And that sums it up for me too - he isn't necessarily the player we should be targeting, but he is an upgrade on what we currently have and is (in my opinion) an upgrade on coquelin. I too do not share the optimism that le cock will bring in the requisite players but it will frustrate the shit out of me that he will then claim that there was no players available that are better than what he has already got in the squad - schweinstiger and schneiderlin are both better than what we have and to deny that is pure folly.
Ikechukwu1 wrote:So, "everything is going well" cos the team that finished miles ahead of Arsenal have so far matched them by signing a new second choice keeper...and cos Citeh (who also finished ahead of us and are superior) signed an overrated kid, and best of all, ManYoo won't really improve, despite signing an exciting winger, a proven winner who just won the WC, a proven PL performer and Italy's first choice right back?RespectTheUmlaut wrote:At this point, I'm quite happy with the window. Manure have spent approximately 80-90million on transfer fees alone if they get Schweinsteiger and Schneiderlin (giving Schwein 30m euro over a three period period in wages apparently) and haven't bought any real game changers that will take them above us. Citeh have spent 50m on Sterling who will improve them, obviously, but the fee is farcical. Chelski so far haven't done anything bar Falcao which won't make any difference if everything goes as expected. And we've spent 1/8th of United's fees so far and brought in a world class goalkeeper.
Of course we'll need to see how it goes from here til September but so far, everything is going well in my opinion.
Arteta has a new contract mind. So, yeah it's all going swimmingly
If we'd signed any of those players you'd have had answers prepared about how shit they all were.
Ikechukwu1 wrote:So, "everything is going well" cos the team that finished miles ahead of Arsenal have so far matched them by signing a new second choice keeper...and cos Citeh (who also finished ahead of us and are superior) signed an overrated kid, and best of all, ManYoo won't really improve, despite signing an exciting winger, a proven winner who just won the WC, a proven PL performer and Italy's first choice right back?RespectTheUmlaut wrote:At this point, I'm quite happy with the window. Manure have spent approximately 80-90million on transfer fees alone if they get Schweinsteiger and Schneiderlin (giving Schwein 30m euro over a three period period in wages apparently) and haven't bought any real game changers that will take them above us. Citeh have spent 50m on Sterling who will improve them, obviously, but the fee is farcical. Chelski so far haven't done anything bar Falcao which won't make any difference if everything goes as expected. And we've spent 1/8th of United's fees so far and brought in a world class goalkeeper.
Of course we'll need to see how it goes from here til September but so far, everything is going well in my opinion.
Arteta has a new contract mind. So, yeah it's all going swimmingly
That Ozil stat is impressive indeed. And selective. From the time he returned from injury, we played major games in the CL knockout, and big league games against Chelski, ManYoo. If you want to count Liverpool at home as a big game (6-1 losers to Stoke) then fair. The facts, as you like them, are that we can quote all the virtual "most points end of the season stats" you want, at £42m, ever since Ozil has arrived Arsenal have been nowhere near winning the league.RespectTheUmlaut wrote:Ikechukwu1 wrote:So, "everything is going well" cos the team that finished miles ahead of Arsenal have so far matched them by signing a new second choice keeper...and cos Citeh (who also finished ahead of us and are superior) signed an overrated kid, and best of all, ManYoo won't really improve, despite signing an exciting winger, a proven winner who just won the WC, a proven PL performer and Italy's first choice right back?RespectTheUmlaut wrote:At this point, I'm quite happy with the window. Manure have spent approximately 80-90million on transfer fees alone if they get Schweinsteiger and Schneiderlin (giving Schwein 30m euro over a three period period in wages apparently) and haven't bought any real game changers that will take them above us. Citeh have spent 50m on Sterling who will improve them, obviously, but the fee is farcical. Chelski so far haven't done anything bar Falcao which won't make any difference if everything goes as expected. And we've spent 1/8th of United's fees so far and brought in a world class goalkeeper.
Of course we'll need to see how it goes from here til September but so far, everything is going well in my opinion.
Arteta has a new contract mind. So, yeah it's all going swimmingly
Let's talk in facts: from the day Ozil returned from injury in January to the end of the season, we accumulated more points than anyone else and this includes a period at the end of the season where Chelski won a lot on the bounce despite playing shit including in one game when their/your new 2nd choice keeper cost Stoke the game. This period coincided with us having the majority of our squad fit.
Obviously I'd rather Schneiderlin than nobody but if Coquelin plays how he did last season, Schneiderlin won't be in the team. Arsenal aren't going to start buying players for 25m to sit on our bench. United have invested 50m Euro on a 31 year old and declining Schweinsteiger. Again, this is not how we operate. They signed Darmian, we have Bellerin and Debuchy. They signed Depay, we have Alexis, Theo, Ox so again, no worries there.
Considering the money that other teams have spent I think this window has gone as well as it can go for us. I think we need to sign a defensive midfielder to boost the numbers more than anything else and a winger who can play forward. Ideally Reus but that's unlikely, maybe someone like Gotze or Lacazette.
Some people might get alarmed at this because you're all clamouring for a new shiny DM but going into next season starting anyone other than Coq at the position would be poor management. His form last season was up there with any DM in the world and he was the best DM in the league; that needs to be rewarded by a starting berth this season.
The only signing I'm remotely jealous about so far is Sterling and that's because he's a great player but again, the price is farcical and we weren't in for him rightfully so. My outlook is this: I don't see Bale, Muller, Reus or any other game changing player in England yet so we have nothing to worry about. Let's make sure we sign that extra defensive mid to compete with Coquelin and add a top class wing player and we're good to go. We have time.
He went Inter Milan a few weeks ago.markyp wrote:we need to go balls out for kondogbia,or has he already gone somewhere??
Pretty sure Inter pinched him from under Milan's noses.markyp wrote:we need to go balls out for kondogbia,or has he already gone somewhere??
Oh was he? Funny that, just looked at the nominations for PFA Team of the Year and the "best DCM in the league"RespectTheUmlaut wrote:Ikechukwu1 wrote:So, "everything is going well" cos the team that finished miles ahead of Arsenal have so far matched them by signing a new second choice keeper...and cos Citeh (who also finished ahead of us and are superior) signed an overrated kid, and best of all, ManYoo won't really improve, despite signing an exciting winger, a proven winner who just won the WC, a proven PL performer and Italy's first choice right back?RespectTheUmlaut wrote:At this point, I'm quite happy with the window. Manure have spent approximately 80-90million on transfer fees alone if they get Schweinsteiger and Schneiderlin (giving Schwein 30m euro over a three period period in wages apparently) and haven't bought any real game changers that will take them above us. Citeh have spent 50m on Sterling who will improve them, obviously, but the fee is farcical. Chelski so far haven't done anything bar Falcao which won't make any difference if everything goes as expected. And we've spent 1/8th of United's fees so far and brought in a world class goalkeeper.
Of course we'll need to see how it goes from here til September but so far, everything is going well in my opinion.
Arteta has a new contract mind. So, yeah it's all going swimmingly
Let's talk in facts: from the day Ozil returned from injury in January to the end of the season, we accumulated more points than anyone else and this includes a period at the end of the season where Chelski won a lot on the bounce despite playing shit including in one game when their/your new 2nd choice keeper cost Stoke the game. This period coincided with us having the majority of our squad fit.
Obviously I'd rather Schneiderlin than nobody but if Coquelin plays how he did last season, Schneiderlin won't be in the team. Arsenal aren't going to start buying players for 25m to sit on our bench. United have invested 50m Euro on a 31 year old and declining Schweinsteiger. Again, this is not how we operate. They signed Darmian, we have Bellerin and Debuchy. They signed Depay, we have Alexis, Theo, Ox so again, no worries there.
Considering the money that other teams have spent I think this window has gone as well as it can go for us. I think we need to sign a defensive midfielder to boost the numbers more than anything else and a winger who can play forward. Ideally Reus but that's unlikely, maybe someone like Gotze or Lacazette.
Some people might get alarmed at this because you're all clamouring for a new shiny DM but going into next season starting anyone other than Coq at the position would be poor management. His form last season was up there with any DM in the world and he was the best DM in the league; that needs to be rewarded by a starting berth this season.
The only signing I'm remotely jealous about so far is Sterling and that's because he's a great player but again, the price is farcical and we weren't in for him rightfully so. My outlook is this: I don't see Bale, Muller, Reus or any other game changing player in England yet so we have nothing to worry about. Let's make sure we sign that extra defensive mid to compete with Coquelin and add a top class wing player and we're good to go. We have time.
is nowhere to be seen. But it's ok, because Coquelin has gone from being on the subs' bench at Charlton, to being the best in the league.RespectTheUmlaut wrote:Ikechukwu1 wrote:So, "everything is going well" cos the team that finished miles ahead of Arsenal have so far matched them by signing a new second choice keeper...and cos Citeh (who also finished ahead of us and are superior) signed an overrated kid, and best of all, ManYoo won't really improve, despite signing an exciting winger, a proven winner who just won the WC, a proven PL performer and Italy's first choice right back?RespectTheUmlaut wrote:At this point, I'm quite happy with the window. Manure have spent approximately 80-90million on transfer fees alone if they get Schweinsteiger and Schneiderlin (giving Schwein 30m euro over a three period period in wages apparently) and haven't bought any real game changers that will take them above us. Citeh have spent 50m on Sterling who will improve them, obviously, but the fee is farcical. Chelski so far haven't done anything bar Falcao which won't make any difference if everything goes as expected. And we've spent 1/8th of United's fees so far and brought in a world class goalkeeper.
Of course we'll need to see how it goes from here til September but so far, everything is going well in my opinion.
Arteta has a new contract mind. So, yeah it's all going swimmingly
Let's talk in facts: from the day Ozil returned from injury in January to the end of the season, we accumulated more points than anyone else and this includes a period at the end of the season where Chelski won a lot on the bounce despite playing shit including in one game when their/your new 2nd choice keeper cost Stoke the game. This period coincided with us having the majority of our squad fit.
Obviously I'd rather Schneiderlin than nobody but if Coquelin plays how he did last season, Schneiderlin won't be in the team. Arsenal aren't going to start buying players for 25m to sit on our bench. United have invested 50m Euro on a 31 year old and declining Schweinsteiger. Again, this is not how we operate. They signed Darmian, we have Bellerin and Debuchy. They signed Depay, we have Alexis, Theo, Ox so again, no worries there.
Considering the money that other teams have spent I think this window has gone as well as it can go for us. I think we need to sign a defensive midfielder to boost the numbers more than anything else and a winger who can play forward. Ideally Reus but that's unlikely, maybe someone like Gotze or Lacazette.
Some people might get alarmed at this because you're all clamouring for a new shiny DM but going into next season starting anyone other than Coq at the position would be poor management. His form last season was up there with any DM in the world and he was the best DM in the league; that needs to be rewarded by a starting berth this season.
The only signing I'm remotely jealous about so far is Sterling and that's because he's a great player but again, the price is farcical and we weren't in for him rightfully so. My outlook is this: I don't see Bale, Muller, Reus or any other game changing player in England yet so we have nothing to worry about. Let's make sure we sign that extra defensive mid to compete with Coquelin and add a top class wing player and we're good to go. We have time.
League's are won and lost over 38 games and not over half a season like le cock would have us believe every fcuking summer - every season we either have a great first half of the season and then fall on our arses when it matters most, or we have a diabolical first half of the season but come good in the second half of the season when the league is already beyond us 
