THE WENGER THREAD

[Brady's left peg]

That article is entitled: "Wenger: Arsenal can win title without Suarez"

A very different proposition from saying the squad doesn't need reinforcing.

Try reading it... that's why I have included the link! Jeez

[turricaned]

@Brady's left peg:

I said "after he [Özil] came back from injury". Meaning just that. The OT visit was back in November IIRC.

However Wenger is adamant Arsenal's current squad is good enough to challenge Manchester United, Chelsea and Manchester City for the title.

"Current squad" at the time including a fully-fit Walcott, Wilshere, Ramsey and Podolski, of whom we were missing one or more when we played those teams away.

[Brady's left peg]

I said "after he came back from injury". Meaning just that. The OT visit was back in November IIRC.

So you will agree then that some of his performances before the injury were not what you would expect from a £40 million pound player?

[Brady's left peg]

@Brady's left peg:

I said "after he [Özil] came back from injury". Meaning just that. The OT visit was back in November IIRC.

However Wenger is adamant Arsenal's current squad is good enough to challenge Manchester United, Chelsea and Manchester City for the title.

"Current squad" at the time including a fully-fit Walcott, Wilshere, Ramsey and Podolski, of whom we were missing one or more when we played those teams away.

FFS I'm not getting into this.... You asked for a link which I have supplied which proves Northbank123 was correct in stating Wenger had said we could compete for the title with the squad he had then which did not include Ozil.... Deluded!!
Goodnight.

[turricaned]

So you will agree then that some of his performances before the injury were not what you would expect from a £40 million pound player?

For any player who had missed pre-season training. In fact that's part of the reason why I remain unconvinced that Suarez would have had the impact some folks are assuming. More to the point, I suspect that AW knew that the Özil move was a possibility back in August (when that article was published), but was under an NDA to keep schtum, lest he miss the opportunity.

[EDIT : Deluded? You can't have it both ways. In your own words, Özil's physical contribution in the first half of the season was mostly so-so (the psychological boost to the rest of the squad aside). And yet it was during that first half of the season that we topped the PL table for around four months. Logically speaking that does tend to indicate that AW might not have been far off the mark with that comment. ]

[VAVAVOOM 14]

So you will agree then that some of his performances before the injury were not what you would expect from a £40 million pound player?

Quite a folly arguement.

A high price tag doesn't eliminate the other factors that come into play: he's a human being like everybody else. It's well known that the PL is the most difficult to adapt to, virtually all players struggle during their first season - not just Ozil.

Just because he was expensive doesn't mean he'd adjust quicker than anyone else.

[gunner]

I just would your thoughts on this seasons PL regarding managers being sacked .. I think our beloved arsene has done a great job for the club and taken it to where it is.. Does any one think now it time for new blood and new ideas ?

But if he does go to (Monaco) who would be the right man to replace him ?

All Answers welcome

[Gunner Rob]

I just would your thoughts on this seasons PL regarding managers being sacked .. I think our beloved arsene has done a great job for the club and taken it to where it is.. Does any one think now it time for new blood and new ideas ?
But if he does go to (Monaco) who would be the right man to replace him ?

All Answers welcome

YES!
But it is impossible to suggest a replacement because we are stuck with him for the next 2 years at least.

[OneBardGooner]

He'll go the same (mistaken) route as rednose and it will be wenger who chooses his successor..... eventually.

[remigardeshair]

I just would your thoughts on this seasons PL regarding managers being sacked .. I think our beloved arsene has done a great job for the club and taken it to where it is.. Does any one think now it time for new blood and new ideas ?

But if he does go to (Monaco) who would be the right man to replace him ?

All Answers welcome

It's a good point, maybe we should have a for and against type thread

[topgoon]

I just would your thoughts on this seasons PL regarding managers being sacked .. I think our beloved arsene has done a great job for the club and taken it to where it is.. Does any one think now it time for new blood and new ideas ?

But if he does go to (Monaco) who would be the right man to replace him ?

All Answers welcome

There are good young managers out there and good experienced pros that would suit us if it all goes t*ts up by 7:30 on Saturday. Just take your pick.
Ancelotti(Bound to be sacked if Atletico do them in the champs league final)
Simeone
Heynckes
De Boer
Pochettino
Remi Garde
Guardiola(If they lose the cup final on Saturday, Rafe Honigstein thinks he might get sacked, lots of rumblings from Rumenigge,the Kaiser)
Bould + any of our old boys with a coaching badge(stranger things have happened)
Fat Rafa(With his record we'd definitely win a trophy of some value, shame about team building though)
Mancini(Give him cash and he will win you the league, it's been proven)
Boro Primorac(this would happen onlky if AW is allowed to choose his successor, bloody hope not)

As I said take your pick

[DB10GOONER]

Martinez for me. Intelligent, hungry, respectful, respected, understands both strategy and tactics. Not saying he'd be a guaranteed success but certainly worth a 3 year contract to see what he might achieve.

There is absolutely no guarantee that Arsene's successor would be successful no matter who they are, but that shouldn't scare us from at least trying someone new.

Wenger has stagnated and his team selections are now easily countered by too many managers/teams. His refusal to properly prepare and adapt his team for the big Top 6 matches (allied to his myopic ignoring of the fact of player injury/fatigue/loss of form every season) cost us the league this season in it's most winnable season for a long time.

[turricaned]

Like I said, the board will probably saddle us with Villas-Boas or some other nonentity for cost reasons. Hence my belief in "wait-and-see"...

[mcdowell42]

The same AVB who got sacked at chelsea,then the sack at spurs.i can really see him at the emirates


Mind you there is a certain poster on here who thought AVB would be a good choice ,i wont mention his name but he thinks jozy alitdore is a hull player

[turricaned]

The same AVB who got sacked at chelsea,then the sack at spurs.i can really see him at the emirates

Given that the board is the source of all the penny-pinching, it's a nightmare I've had a few times. The list above is for the most part a dream list, but to be honest, I can't see Real sacking Ancelotti over one result - even a major one - given the squad he's helped build, which is impressive. You're not going to get Simeone out of Atletico for love nor money, and Guardiola at BM has shown himself to be somewhat less adaptable than we'd like. Martinez has had a good year at Everton, but I haven't seen him vary his playing style much, and that style wouldn't suit our squad as it stands.

In two years the landscape may well have changed, but my reason for giving AW the benefit of the doubt for at least another year is in part based on the fact that most of the potential successors we'd like to see are too well entrenched in their current employment.