THEO! WASTE OF MONEY????????

[Magic Hat]

I remember reading a comment (either on here or from another Arsenal blog ) that complained that vela is with us 2 years now and has yet to improve to the required level........

I would suggest that was impatient idiocy

I see signs of progress but I also worry about how Walcott seems to take two steps forward then a leap back. As for why he gets more chances, Ramsey is up against about a hundred options for Cesc's deputy, Vela has four strikers ahead of him whereas for a speed option, who do we have? Now we have started getting options on the flanks, we may see Walcott more on the bench then we once did

[Radford149]

hes not though is he

Probably not, but its a game of opinions and i can think of hundreds of more "deluded" opinions then thinking Theo Walcott will become a good player.

when o when will this lad become a good player, Radford states that even after all these years at Arsenal he still looks poor. last night was yet another example of his lack of football nous.

anything that comes off seems more luck than judgement. Radford is tired of his lack talent

[AylesburyGooner]

God id hate to have some of you lot of critics the blokes only playes 72 mins of football up until last nite heavens forbid he should be rusty and not palying at full tilt

[Rob]

Didn't Man Utd sign Rooney about the same time we signed Walcott ? Admittedly for twice the price but given the difference between the two of them, who got the better deal ?

Sums up the difference in ambition and achievement between the two Clubs over the last 5 years, to a tee.

[Number 5]

Maybe there’s something in there just waiting to click & all of a sudden he’ll get it together & for that reason I’d persevere with him but he really needs some cold harsh truths & some tough love (not in the Number 5 sense!).

You might be onto something there bud, a bit of “Jail Houseâ€

[brazilianGOONER]

Didn't Man Utd sign Rooney about the same time we signed Walcott ? Admittedly for twice the price but given the difference between the two of them, who got the better deal ?

Sums up the difference in ambition and achievement between the two Clubs over the last 5 years, to a tee.

yeah, they also signed berbatov about the same time we signed arshavin, and paid twice the price. and signed valencia at the same time we signed vermaelen, for almost twice the price.

it's always easy to make comparisons when you want one result in the end.

[Boomer]

I think Wenger missed a trick with Theo by not sending him out on loan earlier.

That's partly to do with AW wanting to develop his own players and a possibly not wanting to loan future 'stars' out.
If you look at most of the youngster which have come up there's only a handful which actually went on loan.

Bendtner
Traore
The only loanee to be slightly successful to return (at the moment) is Song!

Cesc wasn't loaned.
Nor Clichy
Vela was only for permit reasons.
Gibbs not
Ramsey
and I bet AW won't let Wilshire go out!

I think the problem which has partially been touched upon is the media aspect.
AW keeping Wilshire at bay by giving him a few appearances then disappearing again.
Theo came off the back of a large transfer which is media news! Since then he's had a few appearance for Arsenal, and handful with England.
Yet he's the face of many major brands such as Nike and Fifa games etc...

He's come back from injury and needs time. Like Song, the jury was out he need a run of games to get some experience and playing time.

We've all these youngsters, in the knockout of the CL, in all cups....and putting a decent challenge for the title.
Things can only get better for a player like Theo.

[Rob]

Didn't Man Utd sign Rooney about the same time we signed Walcott ? Admittedly for twice the price but given the difference between the two of them, who got the better deal ?

Sums up the difference in ambition and achievement between the two Clubs over the last 5 years, to a tee.

yeah, they also signed berbatov about the same time we signed arshavin, and paid twice the price. and signed valencia at the same time we signed vermaelen, for almost twice the price.

it's always easy to make comparisons when you want one result in the end.

And with your great sense of history not to mention keen numerical understanding, just remind me how many trophies each club have won over the last 5 years.

Winning matches and therefore winning trophies, being the main objective of a football club, in case you'd forgotten.

[brazilianGOONER]

And with your great sense of history not to mention keen numerical understanding, just remind me how many trophies each club have won over the last 5 years.

Winning matches and therefore winning trophies, being the main objective of a football club, in case you'd forgotten.

oh, so the subject changed, then. ok, let's change subjects, no problemo.

about manure winning trophies on the last 5 seasons and we not winning anything, i give you a few reasons: manure are indeed a big club, actually the biggest in the world; manure have sugar daddies and infinite money, we don't; manure didn't have to build a new stadium because their old one was too small, therefore getting a gigantic hole in their pockets which will be settled with time... must i continue?

[augie]

And with your great sense of history not to mention keen numerical understanding, just remind me how many trophies each club have won over the last 5 years.

Winning matches and therefore winning trophies, being the main objective of a football club, in case you'd forgotten.

oh, so the subject changed, then. ok, let's change subjects, no problemo.

about manure winning trophies on the last 5 seasons and we not winning anything, i give you a few reasons: manure are indeed a big club, actually the biggest in the world; manure have sugar daddies and infinite money, we don't; manure didn't have to build a new stadium because their old one was too small, therefore getting a gigantic hole in their pockets which will be settled with time... must i continue?

Is that implying that we are not a big club ? I will also point out that manure do not have infinite money and are a club up to their eyeballs in debt but at the same time they understand that if they want the money to keep rolling in then they need a successful team to keep sponsors and fans onboard and therefore speculate to a degree. We on the other hand dont see the importance of having a successful team and even argue that a club doesnt have to win trophies to be classed successful

[brazilianGOONER]

Is that implying that we are not a big club ? I will also point out that manure do not have infinite money and are a club up to their eyeballs in debt but at the same time they understand that if they want the money to keep rolling in then they need a successful team to keep sponsors and fans onboard and therefore speculate to a degree. We on the other hand dont see the importance of having a successful team and even argue that a club doesnt have to win trophies to be classed successful

augie let me teach you something: if i tell you that pavarotti is the greatest singer ever it does not mean that placido domingo was shit. it means pavarotti was the greatest. simple as that. yes, we are a fucking huge enormous gigantic club, and as such should've won something on the last 5 years. but believe me, manure are bigger. they are, yes, the biggest team in the world, unfortunetaly.

and no, they do not have infinite money, but they spend and spend and spend even if they have debts all over the place. what that will mean in the next 10 years i do no know, i do know that it was instrumental in giving them a lot of trophies in the last 5 years. got it?

this is the first year they did not spend. let's see what will happen, shall we?

[Gunner4LiF3]

augie let me teach you something: if i tell you that pavarotti is the greatest singer ever it does not mean that placido domingo was shit. it means pavarotti was the greatest. simple as that. yes, we are a fucking huge enormous gigantic club, and as such should've won something on the last 5 years. but believe me, manure are bigger. they are, yes, the biggest team in the world, unfortunetaly.

and no, they do not have infinite money, but they spend and spend and spend even if they have debts all over the place. what that will mean in the next 10 years i do no know, i do know that it was instrumental in giving them a lot of trophies in the last 5 years. got it?

this is the first year they did not spend. let's see what will happen, shall we?

[Boomer]

And with your great sense of history not to mention keen numerical understanding, just remind me how many trophies each club have won over the last 5 years.

Winning matches and therefore winning trophies, being the main objective of a football club, in case you'd forgotten.

oh, so the subject changed, then. ok, let's change subjects, no problemo.

about manure winning trophies on the last 5 seasons and we not winning anything, i give you a few reasons: manure are indeed a big club, actually the biggest in the world; manure have sugar daddies and infinite money, we don't; manure didn't have to build a new stadium because their old one was too small, therefore getting a gigantic hole in their pockets which will be settled with time... must i continue?

Is that implying that we are not a big club ? I will also point out that manure do not have infinite money and are a club up to their eyeballs in debt but at the same time they understand that if they want the money to keep rolling in then they need a successful team to keep sponsors and fans onboard and therefore speculate to a degree. We on the other hand dont see the importance of having a successful team and even argue that a club doesnt have to win trophies to be classed successful

The ‘Big club’ question is where you really do not need rose tinters!

As a brand Man U are one of, if not thee, biggest team in the world.
Same with Marid, Barca and Milian.
Sadly across the Globe even Liverpool are bigger then us.

As an example have a look at UEFA's seedings.
On the other hand Chelsea are new comers and never get seeded! (Shit club No History)

It's actually laughable as to why we're included in the G14 thing. It was only because of David Deins influence.
All the others are Major clubs and have won several European honours.

Arsenal (obviously) have yet to win the CL.

Domestically, it's different as we're classed as part of the 'big four'. Chelsea are a bigger team (commercially) then us due to the recent titles along with Man U's dominance.
Liverpool have ticked along as have us but both of our stocks have fallen in recent years.

[augie]

Brazilian let me tell you something so that you dont make this mistake again....pavarotti is not the greatest singer in the world as that honour belongs to an Irishman by the name of Christy Dignam (lead singer of Aslan) so try not to diss the mighty christy in future please

[brazilianGOONER]

Brazilian let me tell you something so that you dont make this mistake again....pavarotti is not the greatest singer in the world as that honour belongs to an Irishman by the name of Christy Dignam (lead singer of Aslan) so try not to diss the mighty christy in future please

ok, let's keep our discussions to football then