As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
They say these "decisions" even out over a season Do you have to be from Manchester to buy these "evenings"
True they probably do but it depends on the whens and whyfors over the season we now might get a soft pen given to us when we are winning 3-0 in the last min of a game will that help not in he big picture of things.
Dowd was shit today to add to the shit refs I have seen this season. The pace of the game is too quick for some refs now and FIFA do not help qith the constant changing of rules
That 2nd award for a penalty was on a par of me getting a fare from Liverpool street station to Moorgate and me going there via the M25...FUCKING UNBELIEVABLE!
mrgnu1958 wrote:That 2nd award for a penalty was on a par of me getting a fare from Liverpool street station to Moorgate and me going there via the M25...FUCKING UNBELIEVABLE!
First one was harsh but I have seen em given maybe 1 in 5. Never ever seen second one given (maybe at Old Trafford only - to the home team obviously). Cun t of the year award is now tied up. Can't wait for the fat twat to come to Emirates - we need a song ??
MotD seemed to think the first one was a penalty, personally I thought it was soft. The second one was a fucking joke of a decision- if you're going to get a penalty for that then we might as well just award penalties instead of corners because you'd have to give one every time the corner is taken anyway. Then there was the red card. When I first saw the incident I thought a red was harsh. Barton's tackle was borderline fair, but could have caused an injury so I could understand the reaction, and he didnt put his hands to Barton's face, just grabbed the scruff of his neck and threw him down which I didn't think deserved a red (Bartons a *word censored* so tbh it was nearer to deserving a medal than a red card). Then MotD suggested it was because he pushed Barton and Nolan, and they showed the ref seemingly saying that, but if thats the case why wasn't it two yellows in quick succession (one game ban) rather than a straight red (presumably 3 game ban). Also, if it was for two pushes, why does no one else get booked twice when there's a melee and players are all pushing each other. Then to compound matters, the scum score a penalty and Barton tries to get it off the keeper, who has absolutely no reason to give him the ball since it is Arsenal's possession for kick off anyway, after about 3 seconds (not long enough for it to be deemed time wasting by the keeper), Nolan steams in and does almost exactly the same thing that Diaby did, but the ref completely bottles sending him off and instead books the keeper (for fucking what???? Like I say, it cant be time wasting since the incident took no time at all, and it cant be for not giving newcastle the ball back because it wasnt a newcastle ball).
Absolutely fucking ridiculous decisions that could cost a team the fucking title (admittedly they also got one right in arsenals favour when ruling out Best's goal but fuck me, the best you can say about these officials is sometimes they're shit to both teams and it simply isnt good enough). Think of the prestige and money involved in winning a title, its too fucking important to leave solely in the hands of these incompetent officials
Then MotD rumbles on and our game is shown- Stoke's first goal clearly off side since there is one defender on the line but the attacker is behind the keeper when the ball is played. Do the linesmen not even know the fucking rule (same linesman that didnt know the rule when you played Everton). That is two times he has shown himself not just to make a call wrong, but to not understand the law- Andy Gray would have a field day with him. Sack the *word censored*, he is obviously fucking shite at his job, the Blue Square Premier is too important to have that *word censored* wrecking games for teams there. Then the second goal is off side and fucking handball. Fucking "officials" my fucking arse. Fuck the lot of them until they fucking bleed. Useless, weak, inept, incompetent *word censored*. Cost me 150 fucking quid to travel 15 hours in total and spend 2 days going to see my team fucking robbed by a gang of fucking useless, up their own arse *word censored*, fuck the fucking officials, and sack those fucking 4th official pricks who do nowt but moan if a manager shows some emotion and hold a fucking board up, piss off
PS I'm not in a fucking good mood. Oh aye, and that Everton game, lad is fouled but the ref doesnt blow until the lad has kept his feet and played a pass, then he suddenly decides to blow just as Saha sweeps it home. You fuck off as well you useless *word censored*, you started to give advantage so fucking keep your fucking whistle out of yer fucking mouth long enough to see if an advantage will actually be gained you fucking arrogant, self important, impatient *word censored*. Fuck off.
Surprise, surprise. Referee's centre of attention again.
Clattenburg books Bolton's Cahill for a blatant penalty on him in the sc*ms box. A pen which could put them 2-1 up
How can you not blame referee's and how the f*ck can managers and players not complain afterwards. Along with everything else f*cked up with football right now referee situation is beyond control.
The linesman seemingly gave both penalties for Newcastle. The same f*ckwit that flagged for a clear goal for them.
It's amazing that in such a multi-billion dollar industry that such f*cking stupidity exists
Did u see the smug prick standing there with his arms folded when the whole nolan/chesney hawkes incident was goin on as if to say "oi oi whats goin on here" and then bottles sending off scouse *word censored* nolan for doin same as Diaby. Note to Barton and Nolan tell the rest of ur family to get their noses out of that thrash can and get a job u bum
Why do we as fans, and the clubs let these certain refs get away with it time and time again.
These ref obbsessed with getting on tv for coming across as either "in with the players", or "takes no shit", BUT are actually consistantly poor decision makers get kept on and get given the big games, and are held in high regard by their peer. WHY? Beacause they didnt quit after making a howler of a decision...."yeah good on ya mate, fuck these footballers they get their money".
Main culprits Poll, Dean, Webb, Clatenburg...there are a good few more.
The fact they arent held to account for their mistakes is a joke.
I have to be honest here, even though he has fucked Sunderland over before with bad decisions (including giving Newcastle a penalty a few seasons back when Steven Taylor dived against us for which he later apologised), I don't mind Howard Webb. He tends to be fair, and he lets games flow which means sometimes when he is refereeing a big game you get a decent match, rather than a stop start game with some jumped up prick of an official who wants to be the centre of attention. Not perfect at all, but Howard Webb is about the only one of the current crop that I have any respect for
safcftm wrote:I have to be honest here, even though he has fucked Sunderland over before with bad decisions (including giving Newcastle a penalty a few seasons back when Steven Taylor dived against us for which he later apologised), I don't mind Howard Webb. He tends to be fair, and he lets games flow which means sometimes when he is refereeing a big game you get a decent match, rather than a stop start game with some jumped up prick of an official who wants to be the centre of attention. Not perfect at all, but Howard Webb is about the only one of the current crop that I have any respect for
Have to totally disagree on webb, he constantly makes poor decisions in big games, and yet is given them over and over again. Just like Poll and some of the others because he's got a lot of press and tv time (because hes make contrivestial decisions), he all of a sudden is the best.....rubbish.
The fact is the best referees are the ones who's names we dont know, because they havent fucked up.
safcftm wrote:I have to be honest here, even though he has fucked Sunderland over before with bad decisions (including giving Newcastle a penalty a few seasons back when Steven Taylor dived against us for which he later apologised), I don't mind Howard Webb. He tends to be fair, and he lets games flow which means sometimes when he is refereeing a big game you get a decent match, rather than a stop start game with some jumped up prick of an official who wants to be the centre of attention. Not perfect at all, but Howard Webb is about the only one of the current crop that I have any respect for
You'll get bashed on here or by any gooner for that matter by speaking positively about that w@nker. He's shite
safcftm wrote:I have to be honest here, even though he has fucked Sunderland over before with bad decisions (including giving Newcastle a penalty a few seasons back when Steven Taylor dived against us for which he later apologised), I don't mind Howard Webb. He tends to be fair, and he lets games flow which means sometimes when he is refereeing a big game you get a decent match, rather than a stop start game with some jumped up prick of an official who wants to be the centre of attention. Not perfect at all, but Howard Webb is about the only one of the current crop that I have any respect for
Have to totally disagree on webb, he constantly makes poor decisions in big games, and yet is given them over and over again. Just like Poll and some of the others because he's got a lot of press and tv time (because hes make contrivestial decisions), he all of a sudden is the best.....rubbish.
The fact is the best referees are the ones who's names we dont know, because they havent fucked up.
I see your point, and its fair enough- all about opinions, especially with regards to refs. My point isnt that he doesnt get things wrong, its that he doesnt get any more wrong than the other wankers but does it in a more even handed way, if you know what i mean. He makes mistakes, but I have never had the feeling that he has made a bad decision due to being influenced by the crowd etc, I think when he makes errors they are just genuine mistakes and for me, that isnt as bad as arseholes like the ones in charge of our games today who blatantly favoured the home teams. And as mentioned I like the fact that he isnt always blowing his whistle, booking players and generally trying to be the star of the show- a lot of the time he lets the game flow and is happy to be a background part of it, which is the way it should be. Also with regards to Webb, at least he isnt just highly thought of by our FA- you have to be a decent ref to get a World Cup Final and Champions League Final.
Anyway, I'm not exactly in his fan club or anything, I just think he's a better ref than the other wankers we have at the minute, which to be fair isnt saying much
safcftm wrote:I have to be honest here, even though he has fucked Sunderland over before with bad decisions (including giving Newcastle a penalty a few seasons back when Steven Taylor dived against us for which he later apologised), I don't mind Howard Webb. He tends to be fair, and he lets games flow which means sometimes when he is refereeing a big game you get a decent match, rather than a stop start game with some jumped up prick of an official who wants to be the centre of attention. Not perfect at all, but Howard Webb is about the only one of the current crop that I have any respect for
You'll get bashed on here or by any gooner for that matter by speaking positively about that w@nker. He's shite
Quite probably, but there you go, we can't agree on everything
safcftm wrote:I have to be honest here, even though he has fucked Sunderland over before with bad decisions (including giving Newcastle a penalty a few seasons back when Steven Taylor dived against us for which he later apologised), I don't mind Howard Webb. He tends to be fair, and he lets games flow which means sometimes when he is refereeing a big game you get a decent match, rather than a stop start game with some jumped up prick of an official who wants to be the centre of attention. Not perfect at all, but Howard Webb is about the only one of the current crop that I have any respect for
You'll get bashed on here or by any gooner for that matter by speaking positively about that w@nker. He's shite
Quite probably, but there you go, we can't agree on everything
You've plenty of brownie points to use us so you'll be alright
Do you have to be from Manchester to buy these "evenings"
