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Derek Acorah wrote:It's a myth that only the clubs in the Champions League will be able to attract the big names. Look at City when they were not in the competition, they still got big names in.
You're not wrong there. "Champions League Football" is just agent speak for "more money", of course the two go hand in hand to an extent because generally the CL clubs pay the best money.
Yep, if a club like United are offering £150k/w - £200k/w to a few key recruits I think the list of players who would dismiss that out of hand because playing in the CL next season is too important to them is smaller than people think.
Although I would probably guess Kroos would be amongst them, given that he could go to pretty much any club in Europe and not compromise on that wage. I think a player like Reus would probably jump at the chance to go there but they are going to have to bite the bullet and accept that they are negotiating with one arm tied behind their back because everyone knows how desperately they need to clear out and buy quality.
As much as manure fans are being sucked into the cesc stories again,what's more likely is Guardiola bins off Kroos to manure and then gets Cesc as replacement,an upgrade if you ask me. Allows Pep to make Bayern more like his record breaking Barca team. He managed Cesc at Barca B level and pushed for his transfer from us.
topgoon wrote:As much as manure fans are being sucked into the cesc stories again,what's more likely is Guardiola bins off Kroos to manure and then gets Cesc as replacement,an upgrade if you ask me. Allows Pep to make Bayern more like his record breaking Barca team. He managed Cesc at Barca B level and pushed for his transfer from us.
TBH , right now I'd gladly have Toni Kroos at AFC instead of Cesc ... it may sound weird ,
but Cesc plays at his best in a more advanced role and we already have Cazorla, Ozil , Wilshere AND Ramsey who can play there.
Koos instead is more of a DM and we need cover there as Arteta won't carry on for many years to come.
AW got Kallstrom as cover in Janaury because of that , so I hope he can fix this issue once and for all in this transfer window.
Unfortunately for us , I don't think he'll ever go for Kroos because he won't match what Manure is offering him in terms of wages
topgoon wrote:As much as manure fans are being sucked into the cesc stories again,what's more likely is Guardiola bins off Kroos to manure and then gets Cesc as replacement,an upgrade if you ask me. Allows Pep to make Bayern more like his record breaking Barca team. He managed Cesc at Barca B level and pushed for his transfer from us.
TBH , right now I'd gladly have Toni Kroos at AFC instead of Cesc ... it may sound weird ,
but Cesc plays at his best in a more advanced role and we already have Cazorla, Ozil , Wilshere AND Ramsey who can play there.
Koos instead is more of a DM and we need cover there as Arteta won't carry on for many years to come.
AW got Kallstrom as cover in Janaury because of that , so I hope he can fix this issue once and for all in this transfer window.
Unfortunately for us , I don't think he'll ever go for Kroos because he won't match what Manure is offering him in terms of wages
If Cesc really is ours for 25million, I'd bin to Barca Ozil to them plus we get 7million on top.
Everyone's a winner. We get one of the best midfielder's we have ever had coming back home with a point to prove to those Barca whore fans, Barca get one of the best providers in a league where he'll get time and space he needs and the Barca whore fans can say they get one over on their Real rivals in getting a player their fans never wanted sold.
It's basically a lucrative swap and he fits the home grown label, leaving us money over towards a proper defensive midfielder, something no offence Tony Kroos most definitely is not....more a Rambo player. Lovely Jubbly
No Özil is going nowhere. He decided to join us at a time when we were seen as a joke to the football world and with him we won our first trophy in moons. Fabregas left us for greener pastures. Why swap the best number 10 in the world for a guy who thought he was too good for us? Cesc can get fucked.
Time for people to get over Cesc, he's gone, he's moved on and so have we. We have Ramsey, Jack, Özil and Cazorla playing in the positions he likes to play in and it's those guys who ended our barren run, not Cesc who decided not to tough it out with us and jumped ship.
1989 wrote:No Özil is going nowhere. He decided to join us at a time when we were seen as a joke to the football world and with him we won our first trophy in moons. Fabregas left us for greener pastures. Why swap the best number 10 in the world for a guy who thought he was too good for us? Cesc can get fucked.
Time for people to get over Cesc, he's gone, he's moved on and so have we. We have Ramsey, Jack, Özil and Cazorla playing in the positions he likes to play in and it's those guys who ended our barren run, not Cesc who decided not to tough it out with us and jumped ship.
At the age of 18 Cesc showed more effort than Ozil. I think Ozil will get better, but what if he doesn't. We know Cesc can work here but the jury is still out on Ozil and next season could make or break him. If we could get away with doing a deal as I've stated, what's the problem. The club can save face by saying we bought a big name player we won a trophy.
He didn't leave us just for a bigger club, he said all the time he was here that he would go back home. When he left we were failing to do anything but b*tch slap the tiny totts for 4th every season. We were winning f**k all and selling our best players, why the f*ck would anyone stay for that.
If he loves home so much we did he leave to join us in the first place?
I'll tell you why, because he saw an opportunity. Barcelona were going nowhere in 2003, we were on top of the world and he was promised by Wenger that he'll be fast tracked into the first team. He was happy to leave his beloved boyhood club then.
Anyway Özil will smash it next season and you can quote me on this.
1989 wrote:If he loves home so much we did he leave to join us in the first place?
I'll tell you why, because he saw an opportunity. Barcelona were going nowhere in 2003, we were on top of the world and he was promised by Wenger that he'll be fast tracked into the first team. He was happy to leave his beloved boyhood club then.
Anyway Özil will smash it next season and you can quote me on this.
If he's getting no opportunities to get into the first team squad and a bigger team comes along, then why not. He goes back and is bizarrely blaimed for all of the clubs ills because they won't bite the bullet and rest Xavi more and let Cesc play next to Iniesta, so he leaves. He has a choice, take another gamble or go to a team whose style of play is suited to his.
Hope you are right about Ozil but just a sneaky feeling he doesn't like the physical stuff and hasn't yet cottoned on to how to do a Hazard and just keep buying none existent fouls off opponents.
Are you on crack clockender? He was a monumental flop, he could have been a one-legged refugee child and his performances would still have been unreasonable.
And I don't really agree that he was played out of position. His touch and passing were abysmal but he did have pace - playing high and wide (attacking winger in 4-5-1) seems like a pretty reasonable position to me. He was just too thick to figure out that for all his faults, he would have had a lot of joy if hed just kicked it past the full-back and run past him whenever he got one-on-one.
