THE WENGER THREAD

[northbank123]

Despite him saying it was the most important of the FA Cup wins his decision to play Fabianski doesn't really stack up when you compare it to his decision to drop Richard Wright in 2002. The change to 4-4-2 helped open the game up (as useless as Sanogo is) but the goal came from a set piece and from 2-2 I always thought we'd go on and win it. Changing to 4-4-2 against Wigan (and lumping ball after ball in) got us through to the final - why has Wenger only seen fit to do this twice in the last half a decade? The substitutions worked well, although imo he waited far too long.

The only conclusion I can reach as to why the deal hasn't been signed yet is he is haggling for as much money as possible. Honestly can't see why else it hasn't been? He already has maximum influence and the board would give him a deal for 1 year or 8 years if he wanted it.

We'll play dreadfully for a few games, have some shocking results and then after scraping past a dross team he'll praise our "mental strength". Well yesterday was actually a great showing of mental fortitude. Although it was far from a dazzling performance, we were on the ropes at 2-0 and to come back from that in a cup final (even with the time remaining and disparity between the teams) is a big big achievement, especially with our recent track record.

[Dan_85]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footba ... tract.html

And back down to Earth with a bump

[clockender1]

Yup, Liverpool, Everton and Athletico Madrid must be shaking in their boots after yesterday's performance...

Really don't understand this mentality.

We won the FA Cup, Liverpool and Everton won sweet fuck all - I don't see how they come into the equation.

Do you think Arsenal tremble with fear when they think about Liverpool or Everton?

Are you petrified by those two clubs or something?

5-1 and 3-0, both outclassed wengers "best eleven" on much smaller budgets.

thats my point chap.

add that to the 6-3 and 6-0 thumpings from citeh and the chavs and the top five have our number.

beating hull in ET doesn't change that.

if you think it does then you're in for a big surprise. again.

[Nos89]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footba ... tract.html

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Three years?? The strong rumour was only two at best. I was pleased for him yesterday but he really needs to take note at how much better the team played when we went 442. He really needs to tie up some business before he goes to the world cup. Just as an observation the first player to celebrate with wenger yesterday was podolski, which imo scuppers rumours of a falling out.

[VAVAVOOM 14]

Double post.

[VAVAVOOM 14]

5-1 and 3-0, both outclassed wengers "best eleven" on much smaller budgets.

thats my point chap.

add that to the 6-3 and 6-0 thumpings from citeh and the chavs and the top five have our number.

beating hull in ET doesn't change that.

if you think it does then you're in for a big surprise. again.

Are you having a laugh?

The same Liverpool who spent 35 million on Carroll and 20 million on Downing have been on a "much smaller budget"?

Liverpool have spent 295 million on players over the last six season, what the hell are you talking about?

OK, Everton shredded us 3-0 one match but that means nothing now; we finished above them and it's in the past.

It's laughable that you claim the games against the top 5 next season are already a foregone conclusion, the results we achieved this season have no bearing on games yet to take place.

P.S.

We didn't have our "best eleven" for either of those matches: Ramsey, Walcott, and Gibbs were missing from the Liverpool game, and Ramsey made his return off the bench against Everton. Walcott, Gibbs, Wilshere, Ozil and Koscielny all missed the Everton game; that means we were missing 5 starters.

[clockender1]

The same Liverpool who spent 35 million on Carroll and 20 million on Downing have been on a "much smaller budget"?

Liverpool have spent 295 million on players over the last six season, what the hell are you talking about?

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yeah I see that 295 over six years trawled out - its very convenient,

how much have they spent in the last three ? (153 vs our 149) - do they have 120million in the bank ? have they had 100million for the last THREE transfer windows ? do they charge the highest ticket prices in world football ?

i love the way that some people think the 6-3, 5-1, 6-0 and 3-0 are NOT related to the Wigan and Hull poor displays, nor the Villa, United, Dortmund and Bayern home games, or the previous years flops...its like magic teflon - nothing sticks in their heads...

sometimes I wonder if its Wenger who has Alzheimers or his fans ?

delusional

[VAVAVOOM 14]

yeah I see that 295 over six years trawled out - its very convenient,

how much have they spent in the last three ? (153 vs our 149) - do they have 120million in the bank ? have they had 100million for the last THREE transfer windows ? do they charge the highest ticket prices in world football ?

If you want to be that petty and arbitrary and limit it to only 3 years just to fit your agenda thats fine but it doesn't reflect reality: Liverpool have spent more than us in total over these past 9 years and we still finished above them more times than not.

Also, in these past 3 years (the time frame you insist on using), we've spent a whopping 4 million more than them... Yet you claim Liverpool do it on a "much smaller" budget?

Also, the difference between our spending and theirs is we don't buy dross: Liverpool spunked 35 million on Andy Carroll, we spent 42 million on Mesut Ozil: can you spot the difference in quality?

[Swifty]

Seeing as we won a trophy, I expect this place to be slightly more jovial this summer.

Seconded!

[Swifty]

Congratulations Arsene

Yep, now fuck off Arsene


WENGER OUT

Thank god not everybody is flip flopping today [/quote]

Whether one is for or against him he was the leader of our team that won the Cup and in my view that deserves recognition. I will also give him credit for not making himself the focus of the win unlike what some other managers would do. I watched a show before the final with highlights of Arsenal during his reign and it reminded me he was the same back in the day - puts himself out front when results are poor and puts the players out front when good. I'm not saying he should say nor am I saying he ever gave good answers when results were down but I for one was glad to see him enjoying himself and it seemed the players were too with the champagne shower etc.

[topgoon]

Seeing as we won a trophy, I expect this place to be slightly more jovial this summer.

Seconded!

It won't be.

I started a few threads about it being his last season in charge this year and honestly thought he would step down at the end of the season on a high of finally putting together another trophy albeit FA cup - winning team. He hasn't and is about to be rewarded with an £8million a year contract.

It'll probably be his last but it means the earliest we will be league title winners will be the 2017/18 season. Nearly 15yrs after the Invincibles.

I would never have sacrificed a final for his head but those new contract headlines are taking the shine off a great weekend to be a gooner. We better buckle up lads, we are in for a bumpy ride.

[LDB]

and of course there's our lack of pre match preparation and post match analysis - this is what Van Gaal will bring to united :

He gives each player a four-page ­manifesto that outlines his strict rules. It states exactly what the player can and cannot do, with strict instructions about behaviour and discipline, limits on media and promotional work, and lunch and dinner rules in hotels and at training camps.

Van Gaal has also taken to banning players from wearing headphones when they travel on the team bus to matches.

Ajax’s international defender Joel Veltman said: “Van Gaal is always talking and communicating with the players. After a meal, he will always have a talk or a chat.

“I now have a totally different opinion of him. He was portrayed to me as a right bully and that he sees himself as being above the squad.

“But, once I was training and playing under him, I found he was a brilliant guy to talk to. He makes jokes and respects every player. He has a good sense of humour – a bit sarcastic – but footballers like that.”

Ryan Giggs will play a pivotal role in Van Gaal’s regime. As the Dutchman’s No.2, Giggs will be responsible for delivering all post-match team-talks, using dvd footage to illustrate his message.

Van Gaal limits his input to the days leading up to games and is the sole voice to be heard in the dressing room in the minutes before kick-off. He also embraces the same old-school philosophy that was pivotal in making Sir Alex Ferguson United’s most successful manager.

Van Gaal stresses what goes on inside the sanctity of the dressing room must always remain private.

But he also buys into new managerial techniques and technology to make him a better coach.

Van Gaal uses Google Glass and Oculus Rift digital glasses to put players in a virtual world where they are confronted with their own actions from games they have played.

He has also adopted the computer programme ‘Team ­Performance’, encouraging players to log on to laptops when they are at home to access DVD material from previous games, which ­highlights any technical and tactical mistakes they have made.

only 3 years younger than wenger but a generation ahead in terms of technology.

Do you know for a fact we don't use those things? Do you even know if they're any good? Or are you making things up to have a whinge?

[markyp]

as great as it is to finally win a trophy can the Wenker brown noses please get their feet back on the ground,winning the fa cup means fuck all except that we are as good as wigan who won it last year,next season I expect drubbings against all the top teams,more humiliation blah blah blah WENKER OUT

[1989]

Winning the FA Cup means fuck all? Tell that to the 200,000 odd gooners who attended the parade yesterday.

[augie]

yeah I see that 295 over six years trawled out - its very convenient,

how much have they spent in the last three ? (153 vs our 149) - do they have 120million in the bank ? have they had 100million for the last THREE transfer windows ? do they charge the highest ticket prices in world football ?

If you want to be that petty and arbitrary and limit it to only 3 years just to fit your agenda thats fine but it doesn't reflect reality: Liverpool have spent more than us in total over these past 9 years and we still finished above them more times than not.

Also, in these past 3 years (the time frame you insist on using), we've spent a whopping 4 million more than them... Yet you claim Liverpool do it on a "much smaller" budget?

Also, the difference between our spending and theirs is we don't buy dross: Liverpool spunked 35 million on Andy Carroll, we spent 42 million on Mesut Ozil: can you spot the difference in quality?

The victims have spent more than us in those 9 years cos we have a french cock who wont spend the fcuking money available in case you have forgotten that

Even today he is talking about signing 3 players - on the face of it that is encouraging but then you look at the fact that flaps, sagna and the worlds greatest danish striker are leaving and you realise that really we wont be adding to the squad but merely replacing what is leaving and in sagna's case we will be replacing him with an inferior player