Wenger Out protest thread

[Pete on the beach]

I concur with Nick, Armchair and Tollgoon.

I would think we will be doing a demonstration at Wembley for the semi-final? I'm up for going to that. Unless we get a kind draw, we're out anyway. We need to think of meeting points and where we're marching to; I assume to the equivalent directors entrance at Wembley.

I imagine some of those going to West Brom will do their own demonstration. It seems that AFTV will give us free publicity anyway and we know some of their regulars are staunch WOB and have been on the marches with us.

I'll be at West Brom , my aviation journo mate, baggies fan (see fri post) hasn't bitten on giving us publicity from the aircraft angle yet, but I'm gonna work on him on the way up to brum, and he will see the plane for himself next week anyway.

Regarding the semi final doing a protest, imo it depends on who we draw , city ? 100% but less so with the others and certainly not if we draw our nearest and not so dearest, has it could all kick off big time with them goading us

[General]

Guys we need to ramp things up....I intend being there for the Man City game. Should we do the balloons...500 with WENGER OUT for about £170. The carrying of them and the release at the stadium needs to be properly co ordinated. We need to get better organized..I can get a megaphone as well...somebody needs to lead the marches.

Let's do it.

[xisstential]

I had a chat to Jumpers earlier & if Wenger does sign we need to continue regardless. They might think if he signs we will go away. We need to ramp it up...obviously the NNC banners will have to go but we can carry on with new ones DEMANDING he leave. The club will HATE the negative publicity. We cannot just stop now....that's what they'll want.

[General]

If he signs we should set up an independent website and then have a permanent donation facility. We will continue to ramp things up until his position becomes untenable. We have to prepare for any eventuality.

[Sean]

Let's get those balloons done

On reflection, there probably shouldn't be a Wembley demo if we draw the scum; I'll agree with Pete on that. I would be in favour of a protest if playing any other team though. Plus, we would stay away from the away end, in any case and the police would be there too. We will keep it peaceful.

I agree that we should keep up the protests for the rest of this season, regardless on whether TOF signs or not, but we will have to think again over the summer if he is still here and come up with new ideas and banners. We also have to grow the protests somehow, as it seems at this early stage that only a hardcore of 300 will definitely attend and the signing the contract may affect that. We need to try to get the numbers to 1,000 and beyond. Plus we need to get those well-wishers clapping us to join in.

If any Hertfordshire/Barnet/Enfield Gooners could get to Colney and protest there, that would be great too. I would think we need at least 20-30 people there, minimum.

[Pete on the beach]

The balloon idea might be better for an away game where we might get them in the ground easier, from i gather talking to a few of you guys who go regularly away at the Bayern protest , the AKB resistance has dropped a lot in recent weeks when confronted with protests,

WBA away would be great, but probably too soon to organise ( and we have the logistics of the plane too) but maybe palace on April 10 which is also on TV

[GoonerMuzz]

Guys much as it may stick in the craw, you can't not protest even if we get the Spuds, any tiny chink in the protest will be seized on by the sewer crawling media as 'they only protest when there's nothing at stake' or some such blah blah , as will the AKBs.

To be honest it shouldn't matter who we play, the protest isn't about the football, the match or the result it is about one thing only and that is getting rid of OGL.

You cannot criticise those who don't protest or don't join in on the day if you are then going to avoid protesting because of who we are playing, again the media, AKBs and everyone else will just call it hypocrisy and the PR department will spin it exactly how they want it to be perceived.

It's one season, one set of games to attain the result you want, you cannot be squeamish even if it means being unpopular with some groups of the 'Old School'.

This is going to be a long haul and you have to be willing to pull out all the stop necessary to attain the result you want, OGL and the Board must be put under the maximum consistent pressure or they'll just shrug it off, as can be seen from the boards statements and OGL press conferences.

[Jumpers For Goalposts]

Deffo NO protests if we draw Spurs at Wembley. The atmosphere when we play them is toxic enough as it is.

Plus we saw how a few pissed up Lincoln City fans stuck their necks out yesterday and you can guarantee that a few Spuds will be drunk and looking to goad us.

But every other match we should protest and keep the pressure on Wenger.

[Pete on the beach]

Guys much as it may stick in the craw, you can't not protest even if we get the Spuds, any tiny chink in the protest will be seized on by the sewer crawling media as 'they only protest when there's nothing at stake' or some such blah blah , as will the AKBs.

To be honest it shouldn't matter who we play, the protest isn't about the football, the match or the result it is about one thing only and that is getting rid of OGL.

You cannot criticise those who don't protest or don't join in on the day if you are then going to avoid protesting because of who we are playing, again the media, AKBs and everyone else will just call it hypocrisy and the PR department will spin it exactly how they want it to be perceived.

It's one season, one set of games to attain the result you want, you cannot be squeamish even if it means being unpopular with some groups of the 'Old School'.

This is going to be a long haul and you have to be willing to pull out all the stop necessary to attain the result you want, OGL and the Board must be put under the maximum consistent pressure or they'll just shrug it off, as can be seen from the boards statements and OGL press conferences.

Fair points muzz , but in anycase I don't think the police would let us march if it's spuds (and to a certain extent whoever it is ) the sheer number of fans from both teams would cause them even more logistical problems then normal. It would probably have to be a protest at our end

[Jumpers For Goalposts]

Guys much as it may stick in the craw, you can't not protest even if we get the Spuds, any tiny chink in the protest will be seized on by the sewer crawling media as 'they only protest when there's nothing at stake' or some such blah blah , as will the AKBs.

To be honest it shouldn't matter who we play, the protest isn't about the football, the match or the result it is about one thing only and that is getting rid of OGL.

You cannot criticise those who don't protest or don't join in on the day if you are then going to avoid protesting because of who we are playing, again the media, AKBs and everyone else will just call it hypocrisy and the PR department will spin it exactly how they want it to be perceived.

It's one season, one set of games to attain the result you want, you cannot be squeamish even if it means being unpopular with some groups of the 'Old School'.

This is going to be a long haul and you have to be willing to pull out all the stop necessary to attain the result you want, OGL and the Board must be put under the maximum consistent pressure or they'll just shrug it off, as can be seen from the boards statements and OGL press conferences.

Take your points mate but Spurs at Wembley will be totally different.

They are always looking for a scrap when we play them. A large group of us with banners will be like a moving target for them. The police will have to be all over us if we protest at this game and it's just a recipe for disaster.

Any fighting whether it is our fault or not will be seized upon and you can guarantee that that lot will target us whatever part of the Wembley concourse we choose.

[Pete on the beach]

Deffo NO protests if we draw Spurs at Wembley. The atmosphere when we play them is toxic enough as it is.

Plus we saw how a few pissed up Lincoln City fans stuck their necks out yesterday and you can guarantee that a few Spuds will be drunk and looking to goad us.

But every other match we should protest and keep the pressure on Wenger.

I would imagine WHL at the end of April might be a wee bit tricky too

[Clash]

Guys much as it may stick in the craw, you can't not protest even if we get the Spuds, any tiny chink in the protest will be seized on by the sewer crawling media as 'they only protest when there's nothing at stake' or some such blah blah , as will the AKBs.

To be honest it shouldn't matter who we play, the protest isn't about the football, the match or the result it is about one thing only and that is getting rid of OGL.

You cannot criticise those who don't protest or don't join in on the day if you are then going to avoid protesting because of who we are playing, again the media, AKBs and everyone else will just call it hypocrisy and the PR department will spin it exactly how they want it to be perceived.

It's one season, one set of games to attain the result you want, you cannot be squeamish even if it means being unpopular with some groups of the 'Old School'.

This is going to be a long haul and you have to be willing to pull out all the stop necessary to attain the result you want, OGL and the Board must be put under the maximum consistent pressure or they'll just shrug it off, as can be seen from the boards statements and OGL press conferences.

Totally agree mate, well said.

We accuse Wenger of not learning lessons but we'll be guilty of doing the same if we pick and choose when and where to protest. We all let Wenger got off the hook at the end of last season with the celebrations and smiling faces because we finished above Spurs on the last day. If we beat Spurs (without Kane by the look of it so quite probable) in a Wembley semi and celebrate but do not protest as well ... then expect the ''announcement'' we all dread a few days later.

Surely protesting at every game no matter who we are playing shows how serious we are?

[GoonerMuzz]

Don't march then, make it a static protest outside Wembley, plenty of protection when in a group prior to going in, or not depending on the individual. A static protest can be just as effective without leaving yourselves open as a target it just takes a bit more organising and probably would need to be smaller in scale and less openly publicised beforehand, keep it to a known group of trustworthy individuals and keep it off social media as much as possible.

[Clash]

Don't march then, make it a static protest outside Wembley, plenty of protection when in a group prior to going in, or not depending on the individual. A static protest can be just as effective without leaving yourselves open as a target it just takes a bit more organising and probably would need to be smaller in scale and less openly publicised beforehand, keep it to a known group of trustworthy individuals and keep it off social media as much as possible.

To be honest I assumed there would be no marches at other grounds anyway.

When I read 'no protests' I was thinking no banners / anti-Wenger chanting etc.

[Pete on the beach]

Don't march then, make it a static protest outside Wembley, plenty of protection when in a group prior to going in, or not depending on the individual. A static protest can be just as effective without leaving yourselves open as a target it just takes a bit more organising and probably would need to be smaller in scale and less openly publicised beforehand, keep it to a known group of trustworthy individuals and keep it off social media as much as possible.

To be honest I assumed there would be no marches at other grounds anyway.

When I read 'no protests' I was thinking no banners / anti-Wenger chanting etc.

Semi final would be different - normally - due to high number of fans present

I think static protest could work whoever it is, others would join

If it is Spurs, then another option is to release a statement saying that although we still feel the same about the Wenger situation , the sensitivity of potential trouble means that we have decided to not hold one at this game, or at least no march to Wembley . That way we turn the tables on those who are trying to dismiss us as morons