THE WENGER THREAD

[topcat]

Overwhelming support for Wenger at the parade yesterday.

Guess I'm part of the deluded majority.

There was unreal support for him!

these wob's wouldn't have a clue about that though mate, genuinely not sure they exist in real life

[augie]

Overwhelming support for Wenger at the parade yesterday.

Guess I'm part of the deluded majority.

There was unreal support for him!

these wob's wouldn't have a clue about that though mate, genuinely not sure they exist in real life

Somewhat ironic that the akb call other Gooners clueless

[foxinthebox2001]

The negative posters here are just hilarious.
We have just won our first trophy for 9 years and the first thing they do is come here and moan and be generally negative about our future.

Am buzzing for next season and pleased Wenger has been rewarded for his efforts.

Have no doubt at all that the signing of Ozil will be followed by signing 2-3 world class players.
With the likes of Gibbs, Ramsay and Walcott resting over the summer, they will be fresh and fully motivated for next season.

So much to look forward to......shame the Wenger haters can't enjoy the good times.......

You think we won the FA cup because of AW or despite him?
We looked clueless for 80 minutes of the semi final and for the early part of the final.
Does it erase from your memory the catastrophic results at the away grounds of the rest of the top 5?
Take Everton, 2-0 down at half time..... AW does nothing, until its 3-0.
Throwing in Sanago against Bayern Munich in the 1st leg, leaving Pod and Giroud on the bench.
All just accidents I suppose.
But never mind, bring on the next old boy to toe the party line and say the mantra 'if it aint broken, don't fix it'.
The mentality and tactics we take into big games isn't just broken, it's a write off.

[markyp]

well written foxinthebox,the mentalitly of 'if it aint broken don't fix it' is hilarious,the whole thing is actually broken beyond repair,so far so that Wenker isn't the man to rebuild things as he cant see any further than the end of his nose,its been said before and I will say it again,ITS LIKE THE EMPORERS NEW CLOTHES,ONLY THE MENTALITY ILL OR DELUDED CANT SEE WHATS STARING THEM IN THE FACE

[MrT]

Overwhelming support for Wenger at the parade yesterday.

Guess I'm part of the deluded majority.

No, just a fucking wanker.

As the old saying goes, just because you are in a majority doesn't make you right.

Wonderful response, well done.
Sorry there is such a feel good factor surrounding our manager.
You must be really pissed off at Saturday's outcome.....

Where are you from?

Relevance??

If you really feel the need to know, Camden Town.
Supported Arsenal since the early 80s.

Just wandering. Interesting that you are probably 40+ and still feel the need to come on here and take shots at fellow gooners at a time when we are all happy at our success. Sad, pathetic and very tragic.

[DB10GOONER]

Overwhelming support for Wenger at the parade yesterday.

Guess I'm part of the deluded majority.

There was unreal support for him!

these wob's wouldn't have a clue about that though mate, genuinely not sure they exist in real life

I don't like getting into slanging matches with fellow Gooners but seriously that is a ludicrous statement. You cannot question loyalty based on blind support. I'm loath to say it but I watched a lot of the interviews with our fans yesterday and the ones that were praising Arsene came out with absolute idiotic statements like "Of course he's STILL the best man for the job. Look at the sustained success he's brought us!" and "There's no Arsenal without Wenger".

No attempt to analyse the situation, to be balanced, or even appear grounded in reality. Balance is Wenger was a great manager. Wenger is no longer a great manager. Great managers are judged and graded by sustained success. Success is winning trophies. The facts speak for themselves. In Wenger's first 9 years we won 3 PL, and 4 FA Cups. In his last 9? 1 (that's ONE) FA Cup. And let's get past the joy of winning it here for a moment and admit that we made fucking hard work of that. If Bruce Jnr hadn't gone off, who knows how it might have gone...

[defleppardisking]

The negative posters here are just hilarious.
We have just won our first trophy for 9 years and the first thing they do is come here and moan and be generally negative about our future.

Am buzzing for next season and pleased Wenger has been rewarded for his efforts.

Have no doubt at all that the signing of Ozil will be followed by signing 2-3 world class players.
With the likes of Gibbs, Ramsay and Walcott resting over the summer, they will be fresh and fully motivated for next season.

So much to look forward to......shame the Wenger haters can't enjoy the good times.......

turricaned, when did you change your username to Laughing Buddha oops i mean LaughingGooner?

[Derek Acorah]

I'm not a Gooner but I'd be worried as an Arsenal supporter if Wenger does stay on until he retires.

He's a good manager but looks a bit lost these days to me. I mean, Arsenal stumbled through against Wigan and Hull. Will Wenger really change his ideas and the way he approaches transfers? I can't see it.

And the thing is now, he can finish Top 4 without trophies for the next 2/3 seasons because he has this FA Cup win to point at.

So I can see why there are many frustrated Arsenal supporters in here - I felt like this under Moyes but luckily we got rid pretty quickly in the grand scheme of things.

[LaughingGooner]

Overwhelming support for Wenger at the parade yesterday.

Guess I'm part of the deluded majority.

There was unreal support for him!

these wob's wouldn't have a clue about that though mate, genuinely not sure they exist in real life

I don't like getting into slanging matches with fellow Gooners but seriously that is a ludicrous statement. You cannot question loyalty based on blind support. I'm loath to say it but I watched a lot of the interviews with our fans yesterday and the ones that were praising Arsene came out with absolute idiotic statements like "Of course he's STILL the best man for the job. Look at the sustained success he's brought us!" and "There's no Arsenal without Wenger".

No attempt to analyse the situation, to be balanced, or even appear grounded in reality. Balance is Wenger was a great
manager. Wenger is no longer a great manager. Great managers are judged and graded by sustained success. Success is winning trophies. The facts speak for themselves. In Wenger's first 9 years we won 3 PL, and 4 FA Cups. In his last 9? 1 (that's ONE) FA Cup. And let's get past the joy of winning it here for a moment and admit that we made fucking hard work of that. If Bruce Jnr hadn't gone off, who knows how it might have gone...

I agree that many comments from fans yesterday lacked any analysis, but when you speak of 'No attempt to analyse the situation, to be balanced, or even appear grounded in reality', I would argue that many posters here are balanced in their views.
Is just a competition to insult and mock Wenger as much as possible.

Am mocked here, but am still going to get Wenger the benefit of the doubt. He has shown faults, but he does have vast sums to spend now on players. This has not been the case for a large part of the last few years.
He has given me some extreme highs as a football fan and I don't like seeing him ridiculed by posters here.

[nut flush gooner]

Overwhelming support for Wenger at the parade yesterday.

Guess I'm part of the deluded majority.

There was unreal support for him!

these wob's wouldn't have a clue about that though mate, genuinely not sure they exist in real life

I don't like getting into slanging matches with fellow Gooners but seriously that is a ludicrous statement. You cannot question loyalty based on blind support. I'm loath to say it but I watched a lot of the interviews with our fans yesterday and the ones that were praising Arsene came out with absolute idiotic statements like "Of course he's STILL the best man for the job. Look at the sustained success he's brought us!" and "There's no Arsenal without Wenger".

No attempt to analyse the situation, to be balanced, or even appear grounded in reality. Balance is Wenger was a great manager. Wenger is no longer a great manager. Great managers are judged and graded by sustained success. Success is winning trophies. The facts speak for themselves. In Wenger's first 9 years we won 3 PL, and 4 FA Cups. In his last 9? 1 (that's ONE) FA Cup. And let's get past the joy of winning it here for a moment and admit that we made fucking hard work of that. If Bruce Jnr hadn't gone off, who knows how it might have gone...

It's a bit insultive to suggest that all AKB's show blind logic on the basis of a few interviews, does anyone say anything half intelligent when they have a camera or a microphone thrust in their direction?

Personally it would have been quite embarrassing to hear any gooner openly criticising Wenger yesterday. Lets see what happens over the next few years and enjoy the moment. There was an interview with a family yesterday when everyone said they where delighted with the result etc, but when the youngest kid(who must have been 3) was asked what he thought of wenger, he said he wanted him out! Cue a very beetroot red dad!



I would be happy to see new management at Arsenal, but it has to be a gradual process and preferably be an ex player imo (Bergkamp would be perfect).

[DB10GOONER]

Overwhelming support for Wenger at the parade yesterday.

Guess I'm part of the deluded majority.

There was unreal support for him!

these wob's wouldn't have a clue about that though mate, genuinely not sure they exist in real life

I don't like getting into slanging matches with fellow Gooners but seriously that is a ludicrous statement. You cannot question loyalty based on blind support. I'm loath to say it but I watched a lot of the interviews with our fans yesterday and the ones that were praising Arsene came out with absolute idiotic statements like "Of course he's STILL the best man for the job. Look at the sustained success he's brought us!" and "There's no Arsenal without Wenger".

No attempt to analyse the situation, to be balanced, or even appear grounded in reality. Balance is Wenger was a great
manager. Wenger is no longer a great manager. Great managers are judged and graded by sustained success. Success is winning trophies. The facts speak for themselves. In Wenger's first 9 years we won 3 PL, and 4 FA Cups. In his last 9? 1 (that's ONE) FA Cup. And let's get past the joy of winning it here for a moment and admit that we made fucking hard work of that. If Bruce Jnr hadn't gone off, who knows how it might have gone...

I agree that many comments from fans yesterday lacked any analysis, but when you speak of 'No attempt to analyse the situation, to be balanced, or even appear grounded in reality', I would argue that many posters here are balanced in their views.Is just a competition to insult and mock Wenger as much as possible.

Am mocked here, but am still going to get Wenger the benefit of the doubt. He has shown faults, but he does have vast sums to spend now on players. This has not been the case for a large part of the last few years.
He has given me some extreme highs as a football fan and I don't like seeing him ridiculed by posters here.

I'm sure you meant the red bit to read "I would argue that many posters here are NOT balanced in their views" and tbh I'd agree. There are extremes in both camps. I'd just counter that the percentage of extremists in the AKB camp seems alot bigger than in the Wenger out camp. I want him out, but I can also admit that he was a brilliant manager for us for the first 10 years. I don't hate him. I just think he is past his best and we need change to go forward.

Also, again I'd counter the money argument with the fact he HAS had money to spend but has spent it badly with huge pay rises and extended contracts for average/poor players like Song, Eboue, Denilson, Bendtner, Almunia, Vela etc etc to name but a few of the many.

[SteveO 35]

ONE ARSENE WENGER......THERE'S ONLY ONE ARSENE WENGER

[DB10GOONER]

ONE ARSENE WENGER......THERE'S ONLY ONE ARSENE WENGER

Not helping, SteveO....

[Theoperator]

Just cant see it as a gradual process, you are either a manager or not. He just isnt the sort to loosen hands of power, in fact he has done quite the opposite with time.

Ghana thought to try a gradual process of moving to driving on the right with HGVs and vans one week Cars the next

[SteveO 35]

ONE ARSENE WENGER......THERE'S ONLY ONE ARSENE WENGER

Not helping, SteveO....

I think I'm factually correct though