The 'I told you so' EU referendum - Officially the Worst Thread Ever

[A11M11]

Old saying Stuart that charity begins at home. Something our politicians seem to have forgotten. Like all bureaucracies the E.U is awash with money but spends it in all the wrong places . It keeps a facade of opulence within it's walls in Brussels and Strasbourg but the member states and their people that it purports to serve find little help and just get mortgaged deeper and deeper into debt .

[northbank123]

Strasbourg is the ECHR - not an EU institution.

Will still find it incredibly difficult to actually deport criminals etc because of the ECHR and the disproportionate value placed by ECHR jurisprudence on the right to family life.

[Chippy]

I spent a few days in France last week. We took the car through the tunnel. On the way back we were delayed by technical problems and spent a lot of time queuing in various car parks. As often happens in these circumstances people started talking to each other. The car in front was loaded to the roof with all sorts of Continental goodies. The driver said that he and his wife do a shopping run about 4 times a year. I gathered from some of the comments he made that he was probably a Brexiter. You should have seen his face when I told him what life was like before the single market. We could only bring back 1 litre of spirits, 2 litres of wine, 6 litres of beer (I think) and about £20 worth of other stuff. He was not at all happy when I pointed out the likely end of his lovely shopping trips.

[flash gunner]

Wow you're a bad loser Chippy!!!!!

The strange thing is as a Liberal I thought you'd be used to losing

[Allgunsblazin]

When a spokesman for the REMAIN side decides to Pontificate and demand a re-election by strutting up Whitehall in his fishnets and high heels chasing a Polish geezer who nicked his PINK BERET, then I thank god I voted wisely....

[Chippy]

Wow you're a bad loser Chippy!!!!!

The strange thing is as a Liberal I thought you'd be used to losing

Not a bad loser at all. After all the people who lost the 1975 referendum by a far greater majority have spent 41 years whinging. And a great man said

“In a 52-48 referendum this would be unfinished business by a long way."

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ni ... um-7985017

As a Liberal/Lib Dem I have learned to keep fighting. And as I believe Brexit will be utterly disastrous for the UK I will keep fighting. Sorry.

[DB10GOONER]

When a spokesman for the REMAIN side decides to Pontificate and demand a re-election by strutting up Whitehall in his fishnets and high heels chasing a Polish geezer who nicked his PINK BERET, then I thank god I voted wisely....

[Gunner Rob]

http://news.sky.com/story/brexit-deal-m ... s-10586796

here is what will happen.
obviously we will get a crap deal from the EU. Cameron got offered hardly anything from them and now we have voted to actually leave can you really see the EU offering us any more??

so the deal will be put on the table and the Tories either go with it and plunge the UK into economic chaos (and themselves into electoral oblivion) OR they ask the public to vote on whether to go ahead with the deal or not. If the public are still stupid enough to go ahead with the deal (which will probably involve leaving the single market) then this country deserves all the problems it is likely to get.

[A11M11]

The single market is their only real bargaining chip . Once we stop wittering on about it and start trading elsewhere the three that needs to sell goods to us and the ones that need our holiday business will be having a quick word with the intransigent politicians that are hanging on to their socialist collective dream.

[nut flush gooner]

The single market is their only real bargaining chip . Once we stop wittering on about it and start trading elsewhere the three that needs to sell goods to us and the ones that need our holiday business will be having a quick word with the intransigent politicians that are hanging on to their socialist collective dream.

Still talking crap I see. When you say other countries you mean the Chinese who butt fucked us into submission over Hinckley Point. Do you think they would want to trade with us if we told them to get lost?

Every other major trading nation in the world has the upper hand when it comes to international trade. They know that we need them more than they need us, as for the Europeans do you honestly think they consider our holidaymakers as a deal maker for putting together a trade deal, I despair.

By the way London is tipped to lose its status as the Euro clearing capital, costing the economy £670bn, that's quite a lot of egg and chips or pints of lager........

[A11M11]

Crap ?
Try reading Patrick Minford's trading places, consumers v producers in the new Brexit economy.
Ex financial adviser to Thatcher who like her or not meant no when she said it.

[nut flush gooner]

Crap ?
Try reading Patrick Minford's trading places, consumers v producers in the new Brexit economy.
Ex financial adviser to Thatcher who like her or not meant no when she said it.

Margaret Thatcher was a massive Euro Sceptic and surprise surprise you quote one of the few economists who was in favour of leaving the EU. Where exactly are his quotes about the Europeans being over a barrel because we spend our money in their countries? Any self crediting economist wouldn't even come close to making such claims, conversely the Europeans do also come to this country in their millions so another disingenuous argument in my opinion.

What isn't disingenious though is losing hundreds of billions of pounds, through our financial services which we passport into Europe tariff free. The start being the loss of euro clearing services which happen in the city of London.

[Brightonnxtround]

The single market is their only real bargaining chip . Once we stop wittering on about it and start trading elsewhere the three that needs to sell goods to us and the ones that need our holiday business will be having a quick word with the intransigent politicians that are hanging on to their socialist collective dream.

Still talking crap I see. When you say other countries you mean the Chinese who butt fucked us into submission over Hinckley Point. Do you think they would want to trade with us if we told them to get lost?

Every other major trading nation in the world has the upper hand when it comes to international trade. They know that we need them more than they need us, as for the Europeans do you honestly think they consider our holidaymakers as a deal maker for putting together a trade deal, I despair.

By the way London is tipped to lose its status as the Euro clearing capital, costing the economy £670bn, that's quite a lot of egg and chips or pints of lager........

The banks themselves cost us that in 2009 wankers. and again butt flush you hate others opinions .

[Allgunsblazin]

The single market is their only real bargaining chip . Once we stop wittering on about it and start trading elsewhere the three that needs to sell goods to us and the ones that need our holiday business will be having a quick word with the intransigent politicians that are hanging on to their socialist collective dream.

Still talking crap I see. When you say other countries you mean the Chinese who butt fucked us into submission over Hinckley Point. Do you think they would want to trade with us if we told them to get lost?

Every other major trading nation in the world has the upper hand when it comes to international trade. They know that we need them more than they need us, as for the Europeans do you honestly think they consider our holidaymakers as a deal maker for putting together a trade deal, I despair.

By the way London is tipped to lose its status as the Euro clearing capital, costing the economy £670bn, that's quite a lot of egg and chips or pints of lager........

The banks themselves cost us that in 2009 wankers. and again butt flush you hate others opinions .

It actually went back to 2001 whilst I was working in the US, ENRON....

The Enron scandal, revealed in October 2001, eventually led to the bankruptcy of the Enron Corporation, an American energy company based in Houston, Texas, and the de facto dissolution of Arthur Andersen, which was one of the five largest audit and accountancy partnerships in the world. In addition to being the largest bankruptcy reorganization in American history at that time, Enron was cited as the biggest audit failure.[1]

The repercussions affected us too....

[nut flush gooner]

The single market is their only real bargaining chip . Once we stop wittering on about it and start trading elsewhere the three that needs to sell goods to us and the ones that need our holiday business will be having a quick word with the intransigent politicians that are hanging on to their socialist collective dream.

Still talking crap I see. When you say other countries you mean the Chinese who butt fucked us into submission over Hinckley Point. Do you think they would want to trade with us if we told them to get lost?

Every other major trading nation in the world has the upper hand when it comes to international trade. They know that we need them more than they need us, as for the Europeans do you honestly think they consider our holidaymakers as a deal maker for putting together a trade deal, I despair.

By the way London is tipped to lose its status as the Euro clearing capital, costing the economy £670bn, that's quite a lot of egg and chips or pints of lager........

The banks themselves cost us that in 2009 wankers. and again butt flush you hate others opinions .

Oh, here we go back to the bankers again, the man in the streets whipping boys.

If you actually tried to use one of your brain cells, then you would realise like it or loathe it the bankers have and do pay a lot of tax in this country. I have never worked in the banking industry but I can at least see how valuable it is to protect the solvency of this country. Yes they fucked up big time in 2007-09, but lets look at collective responsibility here. The Labour government and the regulators where sitting on their hands whilst pocketing billions of pounds in tax, ultimately it was Gordon Brown who threw the money down the river and it was his stupid idea to turn a perfectly well run bank ie Lloyds into the basket case it is today by encouraging/almost forcing them to merge with HBOS.

What I don't like is ignorance, and you sir exhibit it in spades.