The Gooner Forum

You see despite the differences there are things that we agree on. The labour party under Blair and Brown was an unmitigated disaster for the country. Strangely Blair is one of the main proponents of remaining within the E.U. although many consider that this may be on grounds of personal gain. Which is where it seems most of those who still wish to remain stand.

A11M11 wrote:You see despite the differences there are things that we agree on. The labour party under Blair and Brown was an unmitigated disaster for the country. Strangely Blair is one of the main proponents of remaining within the E.U. although many consider that this may be on grounds of personal gain. Which is where it seems most of those who still wish to remain stand.

You see if my property value goes up, then I am far more likely to go out and buy a new kitchen, furniture or have a loft extension. Translate that into business and you are talking about job creation not destruction. We are fed a load of bullshit from the media and sadly people believe what they read ala another misinformed comment about bankers.

Wealth generation is inversely proportional granted but why do we have to be so jealous of people who work hard. Whilst they may serve their own interests, the consequences are for the wealth to trickle down. If we create an environment where investment in this country is discouraged then how can that be good for anyone? Ireland have told the EU to fuck off with regards to imposing a tax of £13bn on Apple, because they can see the bigger picture.

People like Philip Green and Mike Ashley need to be outed but luckily they are the exception not the rule in business.

Better mr flush not quite so vitriolic , I can live with that your obviously a well educated man and I must admit
I didn't really take much notice at school partly my fault but also the system at the time , boys only comprehensive,
I spent most of my schooling fighting off bully's and cads I rest my case .

Brightonnxtround wrote:Better mr flush not quite so vitriolic , I can live with that your obviously a well educated man and I must admit
I didn't really take much notice at school partly my fault but also the system at the time , boys only comprehensive,
I spent most of my schooling fighting off bully's and cads I rest my case .

School has nothing to do with it, tolerance is the word you don't need to be educated to understand what this means. Your mate Boris was slapped down by headmistress May yesterday for daring to talk about a brexit agenda, which tickled me.

What also tickled me was the Aussies saying yeah we will do a trade deal, but we want concessions on visas for our citizens. You can be sure the same will apply for India, China and anyone else we try to forge a trade deal with.

So there you have it, all those people who don't like European immigrants will soon be whinging about the new wave of Asians or Aussies settling down in the UK.

Going over old ground. If we get Aussie doctors and other necessities. All well and good

A11M11 wrote:Going over old ground. If we get Aussie doctors and other necessities. All well and good

What about Aussie chavs that come to the UK to exploit our generous benefits system? This thread gets more comical every day.

How do you feel about Indian doctors then, or Chinese one's? Do the Europeans that work in the NHS not count then?

Lads, if you cannot debate, or even just put your point of view across, without qualifying it with name calling or an insult for the other person, then you just lose the argument.

RE the bankers: I'm sorry but anyone that thinks the majority of bankers are not corrupt is being a tad naive. The evidence is there in every economy and in every era. And it is a majority - no system could support such levels of extended corruption without a huge buy-in from those involved, particularly at senior levels.

Here's just one example;

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 63711.html

DB10GOONER wrote:Lads, if you cannot debate, or even just put your point of view across, without qualifying it with name calling or an insult for the other person, then you just lose the argument.

RE the bankers: I'm sorry but anyone that thinks the majority of bankers are not corrupt is being a tad naive. The evidence is there in every economy and in every era. And it is a majority - no system could support such levels of extended corruption without a huge buy-in from those involved, particularly at senior levels.

Here's just one example;

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 63711.html

Lose the argument, because you name call someone for being ignorant?

I never said the bankers where saints, but you cannot keep quiet when all the taxes are rolling in and then stick the knife in when corruption has been unearthed. That my friend is called being fickle, it was common knowledge the bankers where greedy long before the financial crisis. I worked in the middle of it all for many years and could see the excessive risk taking.

nut flush gooner wrote:

DB10GOONER wrote:Lads, if you cannot debate, or even just put your point of view across, without qualifying it with name calling or an insult for the other person, then you just lose the argument.

RE the bankers: I'm sorry but anyone that thinks the majority of bankers are not corrupt is being a tad naive. The evidence is there in every economy and in every era. And it is a majority - no system could support such levels of extended corruption without a huge buy-in from those involved, particularly at senior levels.

Here's just one example;

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 63711.html

Lose the argument, because you name call someone for being ignorant?

I never said the bankers where saints, but you cannot keep quiet when all the taxes are rolling in and then stick the knife in when corruption has been unearthed. That my friend is called being fickle, it was common knowledge the bankers where greedy long before the financial crisis. I worked in the middle of it all for many years and could see the excessive risk taking.

"Excessive risk taking"? Spoken like a banker! I'm talking about flat-out corruption, theft, and lying. Risk taking is the least of their "crimes".

And who kept quiet? Not me. Why would I? I saw no benefit from "the taxes rolling in". I saw an economy that cost me more to live in year after year, that took more tax and levies from my wage with no corresponding improvement in hospitals or public services. I can stick the knife into these thieving bastards as much as I like. Always have, always will. In my career and personally I have had numerous dealings with bankers, developers and lawyers and all three professions are populated by corrupt, dishonest, thieving bastards to varying degrees, the majority being absolute vermin.

DB10GOONER wrote:

nut flush gooner wrote:

DB10GOONER wrote:Lads, if you cannot debate, or even just put your point of view across, without qualifying it with name calling or an insult for the other person, then you just lose the argument.

RE the bankers: I'm sorry but anyone that thinks the majority of bankers are not corrupt is being a tad naive. The evidence is there in every economy and in every era. And it is a majority - no system could support such levels of extended corruption without a huge buy-in from those involved, particularly at senior levels.

Here's just one example;

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 63711.html

Lose the argument, because you name call someone for being ignorant?

I never said the bankers where saints, but you cannot keep quiet when all the taxes are rolling in and then stick the knife in when corruption has been unearthed. That my friend is called being fickle, it was common knowledge the bankers where greedy long before the financial crisis. I worked in the middle of it all for many years and could see the excessive risk taking.

"Excessive risk taking"? Spoken like a banker! I'm talking about flat-out corruption, theft, and lying. Risk taking is the least of their "crimes".

And who kept quiet? Not me. Why would I? I saw no benefit from "the taxes rolling in". I saw an economy that cost me more to live in year after year, that took more tax and levies from my wage with no corresponding improvement in hospitals or public services. I can stick the knife into these thieving bastards as much as I like. Always have, always will. In my career and personally I have had numerous dealings with bankers, developers and lawyers and all three professions are populated by corrupt, dishonest, thieving bastards to varying degrees, the majority being absolute vermin.

Ha sorry that's my Diploma in Financial Advice training, the word "risk" is a big thing in that field. I was never a banker but will come back to you when I get a few minutes later.

I had feeling that you would pick on the Aussie comments when I read it back but then I was pushed for time as I was watching a Catalonian fiesta and I thought I would leave it hanging to how long it took to get a bite. If you remembered previous comments you would know my immigration stance so the race attempt won't wash.
Incidentally the local community here very much appreciate the tourist trade. As did I when I ran my own business prior to retirement 2 years ago.

What was so funny after the victorious NO campaign, the Remainers immediately blamed IGNORANCE and Low Class chavs of the NO voters...
Absolutely rich coming from a bunch of overly paid Old Etonians, farmers, bankers, land owners who would rather suck up to Merkel with guaranteed freebies, I mean like Mr Fox stated, the Remainers wanted subsidies so they could sit on their arses with free cash...
And let's face it when Remainistas Eddie Izzard and Communist Peter Tatchell led that poorly supported march in Whitehall well that just gives you a clue of where TRUE ignorance is based...Thank god for that Polish gentleman who had a fetish for Pink Berets
What is signed and sealed by the majority, is Brexit means Brexit and it will go through...
When you lose, just accept the fact that you have lost and stop crying about it, it's so unbritish, you had your chance and you lost, simple as!....

BTW we are still waiting for storm and tempest along with swarms of locusts, of course you can always go back to, "well it is far too early", any goon can say that, but I really feel that some Remainers have actually lost their British balls of standing up and being counted and actually saying do you know what, I think I will go along with the majority and support my country, but no you have become so European and dependent on a bunch of fraudsters that have fucked PIIGS
Portugal, Ireland, Italy, Greece and Spain, open your eyes and see how they have fared....

Oh and you have to really do better than get Obama to tell the British what to do, and say "hey you guys will go to the back of the queue"...
If that's the case Obama you can take KFC, MACDONALDS, ASDA part of Walmart, Coca Cola and all that jazz back with you!
Actually no ones listens to the US, ask Putin lol!

A11M11 wrote:I had feeling that you would pick on the Aussie comments when I read it back but then I was pushed for time as I was watching a Catalonian fiesta and I thought I would leave it hanging to how long it took to get a bite. If you remembered previous comments you would know my immigration stance so the race attempt won't wash.
Incidentally the local community here very much appreciate the tourist trade. As did I when I ran my own business prior to retirement 2 years ago.

Bloody hell, it feels like me against the rest of the world on here but I can handle it. As I can handle banter, but seriously was that banter?

Oh dear.

nut flush gooner wrote:

A11M11 wrote:I had feeling that you would pick on the Aussie comments when I read it back but then I was pushed for time as I was watching a Catalonian fiesta and I thought I would leave it hanging to how long it took to get a bite. If you remembered previous comments you would know my immigration stance so the race attempt won't wash.
Incidentally the local community here very much appreciate the tourist trade. As did I when I ran my own business prior to retirement 2 years ago.

Bloody hell, it feels like me against the rest of the world on here but I can handle it. As I can handle banter, but seriously was that banter?

Oh dear.

Poor you.

Allgunsblazin wrote:What was so funny after the victorious NO campaign, the Remainers immediately blamed IGNORANCE and Low Class chavs of the NO voters...
Absolutely rich coming from a bunch of overly paid Old Etonians, farmers, bankers, land owners who would rather suck up to Merkel with guaranteed freebies, I mean like Mr Fox stated, the Remainers wanted subsidies so they could sit on their arses with free cash...
And let's face it when Remainistas Eddie Izzard and Communist Peter Tatchell led that poorly supported march in Whitehall well that just gives you a clue of where TRUE ignorance is based...Thank god for that Polish gentleman who had a fetish for Pink Berets
What is signed and sealed by the majority, is Brexit means Brexit and it will go through...
When you lose, just accept the fact that you have lost and stop crying about it, it's so unbritish, you had your chance and you lost, simple as!....

BTW we are still waiting for storm and tempest along with swarms of locusts, of course you can always go back to, "well it is far too early", any goon can say that, but I really feel that some Remainers have actually lost their British balls of standing up and being counted and actually saying do you know what, I think I will go along with the majority and support my country, but no you have become so European and dependent on a bunch of fraudsters that have fucked PIIGS
Portugal, Ireland, Italy, Greece and Spain, open your eyes and see how they have fared....

Oh and you have to really do better than get Obama to tell the British what to do, and say "hey you guys will go to the back of the queue"...
If that's the case Obama you can take KFC, MACDONALDS, ASDA part of Walmart, Coca Cola and all that jazz back with you!
Actually no ones listens to the US, ask Putin lol!

So 48% of the population are "Old Etonians, farmers, bankers, land owners" really? Or perhaps people who could make a measured decision that wasn't predominantly immigration biased ?

48% of British people lost as a result of the referendum? Again I beg to differ, if it turn's out to be the wrong decision a lot more than 48% will lose. An awful lot of Brexiteers, will also lose big time. So why does it have to come down to such a pathetic analogy of what Brexit really means if you voted remain. It tickles me this.

I haven't got a clue what you are talking about with regards to the "storm", but already GDP forecasts for next year have been revised downwards to 1%(from 2% previously) by the OECD, and that's only as we start to enact Article 50. PIGS as you refer to them all have structural deficit problems which where caused by government spending and the bail out of banks (particularly in Ireland), it has nothing to do with the EU per se. Indeed Ireland through its favourable taxation policy has recovered quite well, as has Spain and Portugal in recent years.

As for your last paragraph, it really isn't anything more than a rant is it. I cannot fathom anything constructive out of it.