THE WENGER THREAD

[Skooner]

serious question

what is wenger actually good at?

shit at transfers (suarez for example)
awful at completing a team (always 3 players away from being title challengers)
Big game serial loser (see any away game that meant anything for the past 9 years)
tactically inept (see above, playing the same shit formation whatever the opposition. No plan B, Awful subs etc)

So?......

Making money!!!

But apart from that he is not an awful manager otherwise we would have sunk a lot lower than we are. I still think he has a very good eye for talented players and he also seems good at instilling belief in players the majority of the time. Most players seem to feel a sense of loyalty to him, more than other managers anyway (although this seems to be a bit less the case these days and can also be a negative when the players are shit!).

I’ve said before, when you compare him to say all managers in the premier league, I think he is above average at lots of things and that coupled with our resources keeps us steady but he doesn’t really excel at anything. There isn’t a single trait I would say he is the best of all managers at.

[Arsenal Till I Die]

serious question

what is wenger actually good at?

shit at transfers (suarez for example)
awful at completing a team (always 3 players away from being title challengers)
Big game serial loser (see any away game that meant anything for the past 9 years)
tactically inept (see above, playing the same shit formation whatever the opposition. No plan B, Awful subs etc)

So?......

Making average people multi-millionaires.

[OneBardGooner]

serious question

what is wenger actually good at?

shit at transfers (suarez for example)
awful at completing a team (always 3 players away from being title challengers)
Big game serial loser (see any away game that meant anything for the past 9 years)
tactically inept (see above, playing the same shit formation whatever the opposition. No plan B, Awful subs etc)

So?......

Making money!!!

But apart from that he is an awful manager, otherwise we would have signed top, top players, and not finished the season fighting like dogs for 4th. I still think he has a very good eye for cheap over the hill players from manure (lightbulb head for example) and he also seems good at instilling no belief in players the majority of the time, which is why we got raped at Liverpool, Chavscum and $hitty AND only managed 1 point from 4 against manure who were at their most vulnerable and in complete disarray in the past 20 years. Most of the overpaid and shyte players seem to feel a sense of loyalty to him. He has only ever once raised his voice in the dressing room and has now managed to make a laughing stock of The Arsenal with his failed projects and naivety in the transfer market, his unbelievable lack of knowledge in tactics, formations and when to make substitutions other than the 60th or 70th minutes. And more than any other manager he has been given way too much freedom and has brought the club to its knees from once great heights, using the usual bullshit excuses of we tried to sign him, we cannot afford to spend like other big clubs, and... .

I’ve said before, when you compare him to say all managers in the premier league, I think he is way below average at lots of things and that coupled with our resources should be doing far, far better. But he doesn’t excel at anything. There isn’t a single trait I would say where he is an example of the best manager in the prem.

I agree with every single word! Well Said!.

[Almunia is a clown]

All those wanting Wenger to stay IF he spends big money in the summer transfer window, what happens when he makes his excuses after the windows close yet again WITHOUT serious investment to compete with the top sides in Europe?

Or will you just use the same excuses, next year & the years after that hoping he will change?

[Jonny_Gooner]

All those wanting Wenger to stay IF he spends big money in the summer transfer window, what happens when he makes his excuses after the windows close yet again WITHOUT serious investment to compete with the top sides in Europe?

Or will you just use the same excuses, next year & the years after that hoping he will change?

That's worked for those deluded morons for the past 8 years or so... Doubt they'll change their tune over the next 3 years...

Christ, 3 years...

[SteveO 35]

All those wanting Wenger to stay IF he spends big money in the summer transfer window, what happens when he makes his excuses after the windows close yet again WITHOUT serious investment to compete with the top sides in Europe?

Or will you just use the same excuses, next year & the years after that hoping he will change?

Its a World Cup year - very quiet, players not available at the right price etc. There's an AKB excuse every Summer !

Artificial prices are coming

[begeegs]

serious question

what is wenger actually good at?

shit at transfers (suarez for example)
awful at completing a team (always 3 players away from being title challengers)
Big game serial loser (see any away game that meant anything for the past 9 years)
tactically inept (see above, playing the same shit formation whatever the opposition. No plan B, Awful subs etc)

So?......

I don't usually stick up for Wenger, but come on. He is obviously a good manager, just not a great one. He is an excellent technical coach and I think that it is more than obvious now that he worked within a limited budget with the move - he just happened to believe (wrongly) in a section of youths - a couple did turn out to be excellent and a bunch didn't.

I know that many don't agree with his decisions or lack of them, but that is the nature of sport and the 24 hour monster that feeds our perceptions. However, to actually wonder what he is good at is stretching it a lot.

He is very very good at developing players in a technical capacity. I know that not everyone is going to excel and that there are plenty of failures, however, you could say that about any club. Not every player has this burning desire to be the best - lets take a look at Lord Bendtner - He has all the physical characteristics to be a very good target man, but unfortunately, seems to view football as a job and not a passion like some, so he won't ever get to that point - a waste. On the other hand, there is Fabregas. Wenger bought him and started playing him in the Premiership at 17 years old - the kid ended up being amazing before f*cking off because we didn't have the money to surround him with quality. Then you look at Denilson, who looked very promising, but it turned out, didn't have any desire to compete. So it's a mixed bag, but not because Wenger was crap at it, but because taking a gamble on any footballer is a gamble.

[Blood_Gooner]

Just want to make it inescapably clear, again, that I'm still absolutely 100% against.

[SteveO 35]

I am 100% for

[Kvltman]

I think it is negligence on Wenger's part going off to the World Cup to work in the media. We have just won the FA Cup, the lift the whole club needed. Now is the time to kick on, strike early in the market, build on the fans excitement and joy from the cup win (and sell those STs!) and bring in the players needed to strengthen where we are lacking.

Could he not have gone one major tournament without going to commentate, and concentrate on the job he is paid £8 million pa for? Obviously not.

It may be a mistake and even harsh to cast judgement now, but it is hard not to going off past form. It is all too predictable, Wenger goes on holiday after the World Cup, then pre-season is upon us and then the CL play off, and then we are sat on the edge of our sofas on August 31st again having to console ourselves with Natalie Sawyers assets while we secure none of our own!

Just for once, he could have turned down the media work, and stayed to focus on Arsenal.

[Top Londoner]

I just called, to say







WENGER OUT

[Blood_Gooner]

I am 100% for

Any barbecue pics?

Heard the Away Boyz were in rare form, as they reached a crescendo belting out a spine chilling rendition of There's Only One.

[StuartL]

I think it is negligence on Wenger's part going off to the World Cup to work in the media. We have just won the FA Cup, the lift the whole club needed. Now is the time to kick on, strike early in the market, build on the fans excitement and joy from the cup win (and sell those STs!) and bring in the players needed to strengthen where we are lacking.

Could he not have gone one major tournament without going to commentate, and concentrate on the job he is paid £8 million pa for? Obviously not.

It may be a mistake and even harsh to cast judgement now, but it is hard not to going off past form. It is all too predictable, Wenger goes on holiday after the World Cup, then pre-season is upon us and then the CL play off, and then we are sat on the edge of our sofas on August 31st again having to console ourselves with Natalie Sawyers assets while we secure none of our own!

Just for once, he could have turned down the media work, and stayed to focus on Arsenal.

In my job contract I have a clause that says I will work exclusively for my company and devote my working day to them at all times.

Obviously I am paid far in excess of a measly £8m a year to devote myself to them.

[northbank123]

I think it is negligence on Wenger's part going off to the World Cup to work in the media. We have just won the FA Cup, the lift the whole club needed. Now is the time to kick on, strike early in the market, build on the fans excitement and joy from the cup win (and sell those STs!) and bring in the players needed to strengthen where we are lacking.

Could he not have gone one major tournament without going to commentate, and concentrate on the job he is paid £8 million pa for? Obviously not.

It may be a mistake and even harsh to cast judgement now, but it is hard not to going off past form. It is all too predictable, Wenger goes on holiday after the World Cup, then pre-season is upon us and then the CL play off, and then we are sat on the edge of our sofas on August 31st again having to console ourselves with Natalie Sawyers assets while we secure none of our own!

Just for once, he could have turned down the media work, and stayed to focus on Arsenal.

And we'll still hear from others employed by the club how Wenger works 24 hours a day and no doubt he will be telling us how the club has scoured the globe.

[augie]

The man is a c*nt. End of