THE WENGER THREAD

As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
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Theoperator
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Of course all Gooners (Except PERHAPS Augie when he is in a good mood) would love us to win all 5 trophies on offer for us this year, but I have a tiny start to the season sensation that we wont win much again :flag:

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guybwood49 wrote:
LaughingGooner wrote:Yes, silly me for getting all excited about capturing one of the most exciting talents in the world.
Wenger has enticed him from Barcelona, one of the biggest clubs around.
But let's not feel optimistic, let's not give Wenger any credit.
Let's just keep the pessimistic mood prevail and enjoy having a good moan and bitch.

FFS..........
I couldn't agree more. If we can't get excited about Sanchez then we aren't going to get excited about anything.This signing
could be the 7 point difference than last season.We so nearly won it,
lets not forget ,we were top for a majority of the season and we all said if we had a back up or better option than Giroud we could actually win the thing. This season
is the one. This is the season where we can properly have a go. If everyone stays fit we have a squad to match any other

Come on !! this is our year
so if signing a quality striker is all we needed to win the League then pray tell why he hasn't done it before?

a vast majority of every fan has known for several YEARS now that we need
a. a quality striker
b. a DM
c. a centre back

and Wenger has sat. Last year it was a 22 y.o. bean pole French kid named Sonogo.
he got Flamini on a FREE after collecting dust at Milan, for what? 5 years?
Arteta is not a ball winner or physical enough
and don't forget an INJURED Kjallstrom who wasn't even game fit
you need a late goal and Bendter comes off the bench - joke


we spent, by far, the most days atop the table and failed to win it, again with a late season crumble. But all we needed to win the league was a top stiker that we've needed for years. 7 Points.

I'm sorry, but if you can't see Wenger has mismanaged this club by now you never will.

but hey, we've got Champions League, a competition who the vast majority of Gooners honestly don't think we can win and whose money isn't guaranteed to be put back into the squad.

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LaughingGooner wrote:We could win the treble this season and they'll still moan, '...we should have won the title the previous season....'

But then again, I'm just a WUM.......
Is it any wonder when you come out with stuff like that? :oops: :oops: :roll:

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Robin_L wrote:This is hilarious, the old WOBsters are well and truly up against it at the moment :lol:

If Khedira signs it will become "Wenger still won't sign a centre back"
LaughingGooner wrote:We could win the treble this season and they'll still moan, '...we should have won the title the previous season....'

But then again, I'm just a WUM.......
Fucking hell. Is there a stupid pill you fuckers take or something? Seriously. :rubchin: :roll:

Firstly, Robin_L; up against what? What has really changed? Will Arsene now suddenly after 9 years of the same mistakes become tactically astute? Pragmatic in his selections and adapting a formation that works away at Citeh or the Chav for example? Has he addressed the issue of needing a top RB, a proper world class DM and another GK? Has he signed a PROVEN 20+ PL goalscoring striker? Has he suddenly decided to play the best finisher at the club (Pod) as a striker in a 4-4-2 rather than waste his main ability out wide? Has he dropped the suicidal zonal marking and too often inneffective 4-5-1/4-3-3? Wow, I must have missed all that. :roll: Well, no. He hasn't done any of that has he? He has signed one player that has looked very skillfull in a weaker league. A player that can (surprise surprise) play wide. Which is where Wenger will probably play him. So basically another midfielder. The one area we have an abundance of riches in. There is no guarantee that Sanchez will succeed in the PL. We all hope he does, but there's no guarantee. So basically Wenger might have addressed one of the many issues that stop us truly challenging for the PL.

Secondly, LaughingGooner; Honestly one of the dumbest comments I've ever read on here. :oops:

Wenger has signed one player but again (so far anyway) failed to address the rest of the problems we have. And we should now just drop our concerns? Are you THAT stupid? Every Gooner should be concerned about his ongoing mismanagement of our club. If you pair can't (or refuse to) see that then you both are either a bit dim or actually are WUMs. :|

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"Every Gooner should be concerned about his ongoing mismanagement of our club."

Couldn't agree more......

Am alone here clearly in thinking Wenger has done an excellent job.
Could Jose, Pep, Van Gaal or any other manager coped with the severe financial restrictions placed on the club?
Yes, I know you'll all shout out how he's wasted money on the likes of Bentner, Denilson, etc......but name me a manager who has not had awful signings.....
Have a look at our net spendings over the last 10 years and argue the club has been mis managed.....??!!???!!

Wenger now has the money to bid for the likes of Sanchez, Khederia, etc......he never had the means to do that in previous years.....what ever you may claim.

The club is one of the best run clubs in Europe.........

Will put on my tin hat........

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LaughingGooner wrote:Have a look at our net spendings over the last 10 years and argue the club has been mis managed.....??!!???!!
Are you a fan of Arsenal FC, or Arsenal PLC? There's no doubt the latter has been a huge success.

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If you think the football club has not progressed in recent years, then you're deluded.......

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LaughingGooner wrote:If you think the football club has not progressed in recent years, then you're deluded.......
I measure progression of a football club by the winning of league titles.
as things stand this is the first decade since the 1960s that we havent won a league title and I am not convinced that we will do so in the next 5 years.

Chelsea have progressed, Manchester City have progressed. Arsenal have stagnated and potentially declined.

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LaughingGooner wrote:"Every Gooner should be concerned about his ongoing mismanagement of our club."

Couldn't agree more......

Am alone here clearly in thinking Wenger has done an excellent job.
Could Jose, Pep, Van Gaal or any other manager coped with the severe financial restrictions placed on the club?
Yes, I know you'll all shout out how he's wasted money on the likes of Bentner, Denilson, etc......but name me a manager who has not had awful signings.....
Have a look at our net spendings over the last 10 years and argue the club has been mis managed.....??!!???!!

Wenger now has the money to bid for the likes of Sanchez, Khederia, etc......he never had the means to do that in previous years.....what ever you may claim.

The club is one of the best run clubs in Europe.........Will put on my tin hat........

I agree that it is "one of the best run clubs in Europe" in terms of profit and profile...BUT as far as 'Football' - you know that game/sport beloved by us Gooners along with millions of others - it is running at about 50% at best - Because a once innovative and pioneering manager has (sadly and regrettably) become out dated and despotic in his approach to any view or suggestions of change, he is that concerned about his power base and image (achieved and gained during his early days of success) that he will not tolertae what he sees as interference regardless the motives of those who try and advise him of his increasing failures.

Sad yes, but when someone you admire and love, refuses to even listen to or consider the possibility that he may not be what he once was, and that there are better and more successful means to take things forward - and "Succeed"...then that sadness and regret will soon turn to indifference and (again) sadly even to hate...which has happened to many, many Gooners.






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Of courses Chelsea and Man City have progressed faster than us in recent years......they have had loads of oil money and not have had to build a new stadium....

Do you think the likes of Jose and Manchini would have won the League under such financial constraints.....I doubt it.

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He did have the money. Just look at the financial statements. Almost nothing has changed as the debt and servicing has always been ring fenced.

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Gunner Rob wrote:
LaughingGooner wrote:If you think the football club has not progressed in recent years, then you're deluded.......
I measure progression of a football club by the winning of league titles.
as things stand this is the first decade since the 1960s that we havent won a league title and I am not convinced that we will do so in the next 5 years.

Chelsea have progressed, Manchester City have progressed. Arsenal have stagnated and potentially declined.
That makes no sense. Surely league titles are the ends and progression is the process of getting closer to it?

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No right back, no keeper, no center back, no defensive midfielder, no striker (if you want to debate where Alexis will play).

4 weeks to go to the first game of the season and about to jet off to the homeland of our dearest owner.

We're gonna win the league :barscarf:

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Can you guys please stop answering this wum pr*ck ? :evil: :evil: :evil:

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rodders999 wrote:No right back, no keeper, no center back, no defensive midfielder, no striker (if you want to debate where Alexis will play).

4 weeks to go to the first game of the season and about to jet off to the homeland of our dearest owner.

We're gonna win the league :barscarf:
Have a good holiday mate :barscarf:

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