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Wenger has given extended leave until 11 August to his three Germany World Cup winners – Mertesacker, Mesut Özil and Lukas Podolski – meaning that they will miss the Community Shield against Manchester City at Wembley on 10 August and stand to lack match fitness for the beginning of the Premier League season; Arsenal open at home to Crystal Palace on 16 August.
WTF - they'll likely not be match fit for the Everton game away, have ONE game at home to leceister, a week off for the international break, and then face CITY in an early kick off....
why not give them a break in October or November AFTER we've played Everton, City, Chavs and the Spuds ?
Walcott is already out too - really is same old same old. our pre-season preparation is piss poor every single year.
Of course we'll rest these players and then they will fcuk off and play 90+ minutes for germany in a meaningless bullshit game Why are we the only one's that give a fcuk about the welfare of the players ? Does any other club molly coddle their players to these degree ? Bullshit is what it is
Midz wrote:Considering Podolski never even played at the world cup why does he need a rest?
He actually did play, but his last appearance came against USA.
I understand where you're coming from though, he hardly worked strenuously - I think Wenger allocates players a mandatory amount of recovery time (4 weeks) regardless when they arrive back from international duty.
Midz wrote:Considering Podolski never even played at the world cup why does he need a rest?
He actually did play, but his last appearance came against USA.
I understand where you're coming from though, he hardly worked strenuously - I think Wenger allocates players a mandatory amount of recovery time (4 weeks) regardless when they arrive back from international duty.
I think this is true. Also, I reckon Arsene's view is that Pod would have trained intensely during the world cup and then also probably gone on the lash intensely celebrating and then promptly not training for a few weeks. Arsene's obsession with stat based fitness etc will tell him that the German lads will return 18.56% below full fitness and need to be rested and eased back to fitness.
Midz wrote:Considering Podolski never even played at the world cup why does he need a rest?
He actually did play, but his last appearance came against USA.
I understand where you're coming from though, he hardly worked strenuously - I think Wenger allocates players a mandatory amount of recovery time (4 weeks) regardless when they arrive back from international duty.
I think this is true. Also, I reckon Arsene's view is that Pod would have trained intensely during the world cup and then also probably gone on the lash intensely celebrating and then promptly not training for a few weeks. Arsene's obsession with stat based fitness etc will tell him that the German lads will return 18.56% below full fitness and need to be rested and eased back to fitness.
Midz wrote:Considering Podolski never even played at the world cup why does he need a rest?
He actually did play, but his last appearance came against USA.
I understand where you're coming from though, he hardly worked strenuously - I think Wenger allocates players a mandatory amount of recovery time (4 weeks) regardless when they arrive back from international duty.
I think this is true. Also, I reckon Arsene's view is that Pod would have trained intensely during the world cup and then also probably gone on the lash intensely celebrating and then promptly not training for a few weeks. Arsene's obsession with stat based fitness etc will tell him that the German lads will return 18.56% below full fitness and need to be rested and eased back to fitness.
Not saying Arsene's right, just a bit mental.
A Bit!!???
That's like saying The Kray Twins were a bit Nawty...or that Hiroshima was a bit different after the yanks dropped their evil bomb!
Podolski can come back early, late, or on time, it just won't matter coz he's still not going to get played. When postman piss the bed is getting picked ahead of you it's game over baby.
You're right Rodders...Sanogo reminds me of sunday league pub team player - only worse (not really but I'm sure you get my drift - as all signs point to him Not being Prem league quality)...whilst Podolski is our deadliest finisher...and is also a mixer and not afraid to get stuck in...why wenker insists on not putting him up front in the centre rather than playing the postman - only the Mad One knows.
Midz wrote:Considering Podolski never even played at the world cup why does he need a rest?
He actually did play, but his last appearance came against USA.
I understand where you're coming from though, he hardly worked strenuously - I think Wenger allocates players a mandatory amount of recovery time (4 weeks) regardless when they arrive back from international duty.
I think this is true. Also, I reckon Arsene's view is that Pod would have trained intensely during the world cup and then also probably gone on the lash intensely celebrating and then promptly not training for a few weeks. Arsene's obsession with stat based fitness etc will tell him that the German lads will return 18.56% below full fitness and need to be rested and eased back to fitness.
Not saying Arsene's right, just a bit of a c*nt.
Fixed that for you there DB10
I actually think he has a bit of a point though. Whilst I don't agree with the extremes he goes to I do think he is right to recognise that whilst the player might not have been playing matches during that time he was still training every day to be match fit. He therefore needs to be treated the same as Muller that did play every game. If a period of rest means that he is mentally and physically recovered at the start of the new season then surely that has to be a good thing.
I've had health problems this year that have largely been caused by burnout. I needed a rest from the mental aspect of my work (I sit at a desk all day so I don't have a physical aspect to my work). My physical state was affected by my mental state though. I took a couple of weeks off and now feel 100% better than before.
And I still cannot bring myself to call AW a *word censored*. Yes, he pisses me off very often but I can never call him that myself.
Midz wrote:Considering Podolski never even played at the world cup why does he need a rest?
He actually did play, but his last appearance came against USA.
I understand where you're coming from though, he hardly worked strenuously - I think Wenger allocates players a mandatory amount of recovery time (4 weeks) regardless when they arrive back from international duty.
I think this is true. Also, I reckon Arsene's view is that Pod would have trained intensely during the world cup and then also probably gone on the lash intensely celebrating and then promptly not training for a few weeks. Arsene's obsession with stat based fitness etc will tell him that the German lads will return 18.56% below full fitness and need to be rested and eased back to fitness.
Not saying Arsene's right, just a bit of a c*nt.
Fixed that for you there DB10
I actually think he has a bit of a point though. Whilst I don't agree with the extremes he goes to I do think he is right to recognise that whilst the player might not have been playing matches during that time he was still training every day to be match fit. He therefore needs to be treated the same as Muller that did play every game. If a period of rest means that he is mentally and physically recovered at the start of the new season then surely that has to be a good thing.
I've had health problems this year that have largely been caused by burnout. I needed a rest from the mental aspect of my work (I sit at a desk all day so I don't have a physical aspect to my work). My physical state was affected by my mental state though. I took a couple of weeks off and now feel 100% better than before.
And I still cannot bring myself to call AW a *word censored*. Yes, he pisses me off very often but I can never call him that myself.
Good post Spuddy.
Sorry to hear you ain't been well, mate. Glad you're back on form though.
Midz wrote:Considering Podolski never even played at the world cup why does he need a rest?
He actually did play, but his last appearance came against USA.
I understand where you're coming from though, he hardly worked strenuously - I think Wenger allocates players a mandatory amount of recovery time (4 weeks) regardless when they arrive back from international duty.
I think this is true. Also, I reckon Arsene's view is that Pod would have trained intensely during the world cup and then also probably gone on the lash intensely celebrating and then promptly not training for a few weeks. Arsene's obsession with stat based fitness etc will tell him that the German lads will return 18.56% below full fitness and need to be rested and eased back to fitness.
Not saying Arsene's right, just a bit of a c*nt.
Fixed that for you there DB10
But, as Spuddy says, I can't call him that either. Still love the man for the years between 1996 and 2006. Just wish he'd call it a day now though and been wishing that actively since May 2010, although the doubts started with our avoidable PL collapse in 2008.
SPUDMASHER wrote:Will Augie change his mind if we win the double this year???????
The double ?? Surely with all these world class players that 1989 claims we are signing, nothing less than the quadruple will be a success ? In fact I am so reassured by 1989's ratings of these players, that I am gonna stick a big wedge of cash on us to win the champs league, the prem league, the fa cup, the whoever sponsors it now league cup, the fifa world player of the year, the nobel peace prize and the pulitzer prize
SPUDMASHER wrote:Will Augie change his mind if we win the double this year???????
The double ?? Surely with all these world class players that 1989 claims we are signing, nothing less than the quadruple will be a success ? In fact I am so reassured by 1989's ratings of these players, that I am gonna stick a big wedge of cash on us to win the champs league, the prem league, the fa cup, the whoever sponsors it now league cup, the fifa world player of the year, the nobel peace prize and the pulitzer prize
Why are we the only one's that give a fcuk about the welfare of the players ? Does any other club molly coddle their players to these degree ? Bullshit is what it is
