WALCOTT - which position is best etc?

[Cockerill's chin]

Manure pay Nani 90-100k per week, Ashley Young 130k per week, Welbeck 75k per week. City and the Chavs have many more examples. Bullshit into truth for you.

Walcott is more important to the Arsenal than any of the above for Manure. Walcott is not a run of the mill squad player. I agree that paying Denilson, Squillacci and the others was a socialist experiment in an environment that didn't suit it. Painting Walcott with the same brush is crazy. In a meritocracy, Theo is worth 100k per week, especially in the last 6 months of his contract.

The Arsenal would be crazy to let a player like Walcott slip through the net. The key difference between Manure and Arsenal is not overpaying squad players. It's letting important players leave too early.

[augie]

Manure pay Nani 90-100k per week, Ashley Young 130k per week, Welbeck 75k per week. City and the Chavs have many more examples. Bullshit into truth for you.

Walcott is more important to the Arsenal than any of the above for Manure. Walcott is not a run of the mill squad player. I agree that paying Denilson, Squillacci and the others was a socialist experiment in an environment that didn't suit it. Painting Walcott with the same brush is crazy. In a meritocracy, Theo is worth 100k per week, especially in the last 6 months of his contract.

The Arsenal would be crazy to let a player like Walcott slip through the net. The key difference between Manure and Arsenal is not overpaying squad players. It's letting important players leave too early.

So what you are saying, if I am reading what you are saying correctly, is that because we are average we should pay walnut more in wages ? And you are berating me for a small club mentality

[markyp]

we paid Sol 80k a week nearly 10 years ago was he not worth it?? get in this century,Wally will comand 100k plus at another top club and that could be just bench warming,i guess anybody who thinks he isnt worth it said the same about RVP

[northbank123]

I don't use other clubs as the sole yardstick because look at what Liverpool have been willing to pay Joe Cole amongst others.

But I do think that Walcott is worth that much to us because fact is we would have to splash out to sign an inferior, younger player and it's not worth the unrest.

[QuartzGooner]

Augie

The way I read your point is that Walcott is not worth 100k per week because he is inconsistent, and has been since January 2006 when we signed him.

But the following points should be considered:

1.) He was 16 when we signed him, with no Premiership experience.

2.) He suffered two - three seasons of shoulders problems which have now healed.

3.) His form has improved season after season.

4.) As for consistency, he has been a worthy contributor for the last 18 months. That is more than a short purple patch.

5.) He can genuinely play in three positions, rather than as a player being played out of position.

6.) He has a marketable value which is worth a lot to the business.

7.) He is still only 23. If we sign him on a five year deal, and his form drops, he still retains a fair bit of value because of his age, his nationality and his marketability.

8.) He was signed in January 2006, a very tough time to arrive; only a few months into the deliberate change in purchases and sales which saw us lose a lot of experience and winning mentality from the playing squad.

9.) At 23, he is now approaching full body strength. Anything prior to that must be judged as a physically developing player.

10.) We have just one other functioning striker in Giroud. The others: Gervinho, Chamakh, Park, Afobe, Miyaichi, Campbell, Akpom have all yet to prove any consistent form in front of goal in the Premier League.

11.) A replacement is a gamble, even a big name like David Villa runs a small risk of not settling at a new club, new league, new country.

12.) We have pots of cash in the bank.

[armchair]

Been sitting on the fence a little about Walcott, probably cause he can be so frustrating.
Time to pay up and keep him. All good points by Quartz.

Get rid of Arseshavin and Gervinho. Two absolute useless twats

[armchair]

In his post-match interview yesterday he said he wasn't asking to be played up front every game. More that he just wanted a chance to be played in his preferred position more often

[supergeorgegraham]

Jesus there are some idiots about. Walcott is our best CF and has the pace to destroy the very best defence. Walcott has now recovered from a series of bad Injuries that hurt his progression.
Walcott now looks dangerous when he plays and his finishing and passing have improved massively.
Walcott will star in any Prem League team. Walcott deserves 100k a week as he is now signing for the 23 to 27 age group which means he will be at his highest level.
Arsenal are also getting loads of extra money from Sky next season. Other than Walcott the fantastic choice of Giroud, Gervinho, Chamakh and Arshavin make the mouth water.
If you dont want him to sign then dont ever comment about the downward direction our club is heading.

Granted the alternatives are not great but you are basing that on what exactly ? The guy hasnt played a dozen games at centre forward and you want to talk bollocks and crown him already ? If you think that he will be a star in any of the top teams in the prem league then it is you that should start watching snooker

At the end of the season if he plays CF and stays fit I will come back on here and copy and paste your words until you decide that on this occasion you left your footballing brain in the Christmas Pudding

AUGIE your not singing anymore your not singing anymore !!!

4 Games as a CF and just look what THEO THEO THEO THEO is doing. That third goal was Henry at his very best

[IW8Goalmachine]

He's gone lads. January nw and the offers will come, he'll sign a pre-contract and that will it.

The only thing that could probably sway him towards staying maybe titi having a word in his ear which I'm sure he's doing already

[augie]

AUGIE your not singing anymore your not singing anymore !!!

4 Games as a CF and just look what THEO THEO THEO THEO is doing. That third goal was Henry at his very best

Seriously ?? Have you not read any of the pages after last nights game ? I am still saying that he ain't worth 100k per week so the "you're not singing anymore" comment is both childish and incorrect
Can I also analyse the "4 games as a cf and look what feo is doing" comment - he has actually only played in the last 3 games (and he was injured in the previous 3) and those games were against reading and Wigan (both in the bottom 3 at the time) plus yesterday's game was against a team 3pts away from relegation zone so if you feel that is the perfect yardstick from how to judge a player at the top level then away with you but I have higher expectations from our players than shining in those games. Just for the record the 4th game you refer was against Swansea when he, along with the rest of the team, were nothing short of fcuking woeful

[Lee1]

It's all stupid and extreme money that we can't experience/relate to. But surely has to be looked at in context of the monster that is the Premier League. Some players at all the top clubs are on considerably more than £100k a week....we pay £60/£70k pw to bang average ones. You have to differentiate...Walcott has to be worth a £100k risk...or we let him go, pay £10m for potential..say Zaha, (2 yrs salary for what Walcott wants) and back to square one when it doesn't work out and we watch RVP mark 2 scoring for our rivals every week. Arsenal just get on with it and do the deal but fear we have fucked around for far to long

[supergeorgegraham]

Seriously ?? Have you not read any of the pages after last nights game ? I am still saying that he ain't worth 100k per week so the "you're not singing anymore" comment is both childish and incorrect
Can I also analyse the "4 games as a cf and look what feo is doing" comment - he has actually only played in the last 3 games (and he was injured in the previous 3) and those games were against reading and Wigan (both in the bottom 3 at the time) plus yesterday's game was against a team 3pts away from relegation zone so if you feel that is the perfect yardstick from how to judge a player at the top level then away with you but I have higher expectations from our players than shining in those games. Just for the record the 4th game you refer was against Swansea when he, along with the rest of the team, were nothing short of fcuking woeful

THEO THEO THEO THEO. What a third goal from a player in an Arsenal shirt. Theo is worth 140,000 a week in todays market.

[supergeorgegraham]

By the way Augie I am going to ram your words back at you as you are very very wrong. Theo has arrived finally. Even experts in the game are saying so and we are fans not experts.

[northbank123]

£140k/w... wind it in a bit there fella I think.

People will only ever cite pundits' opinions when it coincides with their own, the rest of the time they're just idiots in the media.

[augie]

By the way Augie I am going to ram your words back at you as you are very very wrong. Theo has arrived finally. Even experts in the game are saying so and we are fans not experts.

Tbh buddy I would give your comments more respect than I would the likes of jamie redknapp and the crab wilkins
Anyway just to repeat my feelings AGAIN.....I am not saying that wally will not be worthy of his wage demands in the future (although I am still doubtful tbh) but I am saying that he does not deserve that type of money as of yet