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Would love to sign David villa......he would be a world class prolific striker and if he cost 20m then it would still be great business imo
Augie, I'm normally one of your disciples, but the guy is 32 in December. Even if he had 1-2 great seasons (unlikely) he cannot be worth that money.
Sometimes it is about more than just face value - at the moment we are viewed as a selling club with fcuk all ambition but the signing of David villa might change that perception in the eyes of other potential signings, in the eyes of the media and in the eyes of our rivals. In my opinion his goals would only be a part of what he would bring to our club
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£70m, you're 'aving a laff,
£70m, you're 'aving a laff
£70m, YES, yes Arsene, in you I believe and trust.
that's two and bit world class players these days. we need 4 at least.
Would love to sign David villa......he would be a world class prolific striker and if he cost 20m then it would still be great business imo
Augie, I'm normally one of your disciples, but the guy is 32 in December. Even if he had 1-2 great seasons (unlikely) he cannot be worth that money.
Sometimes it is about more than just face value - at the moment we are viewed as a selling club with fcuk all ambition but the signing of David villa might change that perception in the eyes of other potential signings, in the eyes of the media and in the eyes of our rivals. In my opinion his goals would only be a part of what he would bring to our club
Well if that's the way to re-establish ourselves as a big club, why don't we sign henry, beckham and zidane, fek why not go for pele too
Would love to sign David villa......he would be a world class prolific striker and if he cost 20m then it would still be great business imo
Augie, I'm normally one of your disciples, but the guy is 32 in December. Even if he had 1-2 great seasons (unlikely) he cannot be worth that money.
Sometimes it is about more than just face value - at the moment we are viewed as a selling club with fcuk all ambition but the signing of David villa might change that perception in the eyes of other potential signings, in the eyes of the media and in the eyes of our rivals. In my opinion his goals would only be a part of what he would bring to our club
Well if that's the way to re-establish ourselves as a big club, why don't we sign henry, beckham and zidane, fek why not go for pele too
Would love to sign David villa......he would be a world class prolific striker and if he cost 20m then it would still be great business imo
Augie, I'm normally one of your disciples, but the guy is 32 in December. Even if he had 1-2 great seasons (unlikely) he cannot be worth that money.
Sometimes it is about more than just face value - at the moment we are viewed as a selling club with fcuk all ambition but the signing of David villa might change that perception in the eyes of other potential signings, in the eyes of the media and in the eyes of our rivals. In my opinion his goals would only be a part of what he would bring to our club
I agree with the principle - but I think capturing a young, highly-rated and sought-after player (somebody like Jovetic) would make more of a statement than fending off the likes of Spurs and Liverpool to sign Villa right at the end of his career. Don't get me wrong I think he could still do a job for us and I'd love to sign him, but not at that sort of money.
I've got to agree with those seeing David Villa as an underwhelming signing. I don't doubt that he'd be great for about one season, but after that?
I think that in this window, we need a statement of intent, not more band-aids. If it is a younger guy who is not quite proven, I'd be happy with that too, but not someone who we'd maybe get one good season from.
Would love to sign David villa......he would be a world class prolific striker and if he cost 20m then it would still be great business imo
Augie, I'm normally one of your disciples, but the guy is 32 in December. Even if he had 1-2 great seasons (unlikely) he cannot be worth that money.
Sometimes it is about more than just face value - at the moment we are viewed as a selling club with fcuk all ambition but the signing of David villa might change that perception in the eyes of other potential signings, in the eyes of the media and in the eyes of our rivals. In my opinion his goals would only be a part of what he would bring to our club
I agree with the principle - but I think capturing a young, highly-rated and sought-after player (somebody like Jovetic) would make more of a statement than fending off the likes of Spurs and Liverpool to sign Villa right at the end of his career. Don't get me wrong I think he could still do a job for us and I'd love to sign him, but not at that sort of money.
I'm with augie on this one. My understanding is that the guy will cost just 12m (not sure if Euro's as quoted by the spanish media, or pounds as cited by the British one) and won't cost ridiculous amounts in wages as I doubt he was on astronomical amounts at Barca.
Personally I think it's a no-brainer. I would rather spend that amount on David Villa - a proven world class striker who is ready to produce and almost guaranteed to find the back of the net and with at least 3 years at the top level still in him, than more on a younger and still unproven forward player like Jovetic who may be talented but doesn't guarantee you the goals Villa does. Our need is for proven quality players that can fit in and produce almost instantly. In David Villa we will get just that.
I Hate Hleb wrote:Personally I think it's a no-brainer. I would rather spend that amount on David Villa - a proven world class striker who is ready to produce and almost guaranteed to find the back of the net and with at least 3 years at the top level still in him, than more on a younger and still unproven forward player like Jovetic who may be talented but doesn't guarantee you the goals Villa does. Our need is for proven quality players that can fit in and produce almost instantly. In David Villa we will get just that.
Hlebby I was trying to solely look at it from the point of view of what would be more of a 'statement of intent' from the club - to sign Villa or a player like Jovetic.
Also I think the debate was based around the hypothetical cost of £20m.
Given that Lewandovski etc aren't coming, Cesar, Jovetic, Grenier and David Villa (as suggested above) would be fantastic (not that I know anything about Grenier), and well within our alleged warchest.
Villa at 20m quid NO. At 12m (pounds or euros) he's probably the nearest we are going to get to guaranteed goals. He's used to slow build up play, has a good first-touch, has great anticipation and is a clinical finisher. He's also a good bloke. Although we'd only get a couple of seasons out of him I can't see a better option (unless we wanted to take a risk on Benteke or similar).
The Cesc thing is interesting. The media here is reporting that the 'big' English clubs want him but there is nowhere near the same suggestion that he's pissed-off at Barca. He's their second highest goalscorer (a little bit behind Messi!) and he's played plenty of games with the prospect of more as Xavi gets older. He's said to want clarification that Vilanova considers him good enough to play in a 'tiki taka' midfield, but not much more than that.
I'd love to see him back, but midfield isn't our priority.
I Hate Hleb wrote:Personally I think it's a no-brainer. I would rather spend that amount on David Villa - a proven world class striker who is ready to produce and almost guaranteed to find the back of the net and with at least 3 years at the top level still in him, than more on a younger and still unproven forward player like Jovetic who may be talented but doesn't guarantee you the goals Villa does. Our need is for proven quality players that can fit in and produce almost instantly. In David Villa we will get just that.
Hlebby I was trying to solely look at it from the point of view of what would be more of a 'statement of intent' from the club - to sign Villa or a player like Jovetic.
Also I think the debate was based around the hypothetical cost of £20m.
You have to remember we are managed by Wenger, I mean, statent of intent........